Re: Sys-Admin vs Network Admin

2006-04-02 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 3/31/06, A Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> given that I'm not sweeping the floors > or mowing his lawn, I'm managing his disorganized mess of a network. > And that job is like a sweatshop, because my employer, a small business > owner with franchisees, asks me to set up services that are stil

Re: clarification of NAT behavior

2006-04-02 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 03:28:36PM -0500, Gabriel Wachman wrote: > Everything I know about PF is taken from the PF/NAT FAQ's, and the pf > man page. > > Suppose you are using NAT as follows: > nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to ! $int_if:network -> ($ext_if) > > where $ext_if and $int_if are

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 on HP NC6000

2006-04-02 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, I'm using a nc6000 laptop since 3.8 and now I'm running 3.9-stable on it. Apm does indeed not recognize the battery status but I did not have a panic. I'm running the F.14 bios from: http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/us/locate/64_5837.html Here is my dmesg: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC

Athlon XP mobile (k7) setperf not working

2006-04-02 Thread Varoudis
Hello, I have a Acer 1300 laptop with an athlon xp mobile 1400+. Everythink works ok ,but from the hw.cpuspeed and setperf and the laptop is burnig at 75C with my hands on it!! I have read that after 3.6 K6/K7 works ok with openbsd but I also read some post from the list with some patches! http://

Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-02 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:07:43 +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [ music |Aqua "Barbie Girl" ] >> >> >> >> April Fools is one thing but someone around here has a really twisted >> >> sense of humor. >> > >> >Yes, this is obviously a fake, since there is an humppa cov

Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/02 07:56, J.C. Roberts wrote: > All joking aside, if someone wanted to check out humppa for the first > time, would this be a good album to buy? You could check out the set from the OpenBSD resident DJs first, http://sunsite.dk/~mk/wth-radio-humppa.mp3 (:

Re: Music made with OpenBSD

2006-04-02 Thread Steven
* Antti Harri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060401 22:30]: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Steven wrote: I know that OBSD is supposed to have some issues playing music in terms of playing speed, but I've never noticed any problems. AFAIK it only occurs on some drivers, or occured as I don't know if it's fixed ye

Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-02 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:56:26 -0700 J.C.Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:07:43 +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> [ music |Aqua "Barbie Girl" ] > >> >> > >> >> April Fools is one thing but someone around here has a really twisted > >> >

disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Niklaus
Hi, How do i disable users on a system to run their own http proxy. I don't want to allow users who have login accounts on my system to listen to any port . How do i do that. Regards Nik

Theo opinion of Plan 9

2006-04-02 Thread Andrés Delfino
I would like to know what does Theo think about Plan 9. Just curiosity, :P.

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Steve Shockley
Niklaus wrote: How do i disable users on a system to run their own http proxy. I don't want to allow users who have login accounts on my system to listen to any port . How do i do that. Don't cross-post. pf will probably do what you want, they'll be able to run the proxy, but won't be able t

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Niklaus
On 4/2/06, Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niklaus wrote: > > How do i disable users on a system to run their own http proxy. I > > don't want to allow users who have login accounts on my system to > > listen to any port . How do i do that. > > Don't cross-post. > > pf will probably do

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/02 22:54, Niklaus wrote: > > pf will probably do what you want, they'll be able to run the proxy, but > > won't be able to initiate an inbound connection. > > > The problem with pf is that you have to setup filter or white list for > every new protcol that i setup from root. > > I only

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 10:54:24PM +0530, Niklaus wrote: > The problem with pf is that you have to setup filter or white list for > every new protcol that i setup from root. No, just filter on user or group id. Ciao, Kili -- It's a Barrier Of Entry issue: if you can't figure out which

Re: Soekris4801 drops to ddb on cu disconnect

2006-04-02 Thread Diana Eichert
My bad, see this is what happens when you use someone else's configuration without reading EVERYTHING associated with it. I used Damien Miller's flashboot to bring up my 4801 and hadn't noticed that he'd changed the setting in sysctl.conf for ddb.console=1 # 1=Permit entry of ddb from the console

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 4/2/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006/04/02 22:54, Niklaus wrote: > > > pf will probably do what you want, they'll be able to run the proxy, but > > > won't be able to initiate an inbound connection. > > > > > The problem with pf is that you have to setup filter or white

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Niklaus
On 4/2/06, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/2/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2006/04/02 22:54, Niklaus wrote: > > > > pf will probably do what you want, they'll be able to run the proxy, but > > > > won't be able to initiate an inbound connection. > > > > > > >

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 4/2/06, Niklaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what problem are you really trying to solve? really, what problem are you trying to solve? the fact that you have untrusted users? > I understand the tunnelling through ssh part. > Can you explain what reverse telnet is . I don't get it. assume h

Re: Theo opinion of Plan 9

2006-04-02 Thread Nick Holland
Andris Delfino wrote: I would like to know what does Theo think about Plan 9. Just curiosity, :P. Not curious enough to Google for it? First page of hits for 'deraadt "plan 9"' gets you some interesting reading. You get more interesting stuff if you play with the spaces in various combinati

Interface groups & PF route-to

2006-04-02 Thread Dave Harrison
Hi all, I've been trying to get interface groups going on a machine and have met with a possibly interesting problem. I have declared an interface to be part of a group, and that group shows up correctly if I `ifconfig foogroup` or `pfctl -s Interfaces` I have a setup where I have one VPN come i

What do you mean `hand-holding on IRC'!!!

2006-04-02 Thread Han Boetes
We do it all the time! 00:52 BSDWhelp| I know changelogs are the easy way to see what changes, but how/when/wherecanwesee how the project gets directed for the next release topic? 00:52Han| plus.html 00:52 BSDWhelp| sure, that's the changelog 00:52 BSDWhelp| but what makes one chang

Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Archimedes Arevalo
Friends, Pardon the subject line. It was not meant to offend but rather to attract. I recently joined the OpenBSD mailing list to see what issues there are before actually installing it on my box. I am presently using another Linux distro. For the last few days I've been receiving so much emails

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Darrin Chandler
Archimedes Arevalo wrote: Pardon the subject line. It was not meant to offend but rather to attract. Well done. For the last few days I've been receiving so much emails (I didn't want the daily digest), I noticed that there were also from a [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the mailing list. I do hope t

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Chris
Archimedes Arevalo wrote: > Friends, > > Pardon the subject line. It was not meant to offend but rather to attract. I > recently joined the OpenBSD mailing list to see what issues there are before > actually installing it on my box. I am presently using another Linux distro. Are you implying that

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Deanna Phillips
"Archimedes Arevalo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the last few days I've been receiving so much emails (I > didn't want the daily digest), I noticed that there were also > from a [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the mailing list. I do > hope that the list maintainers/owners act on this spam. I have > eno

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:09:50AM +0800, Archimedes Arevalo wrote: > Friends, > > Pardon the subject line. It was not meant to offend but rather to attract. I > recently joined the OpenBSD mailing list to see what issues there are before > actually installing it on my box. I am presently using an

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Qv6
on Sunday 02 April 2006 07:58 pm, Deanna Phillips wrote: > > And yeah, Linux users are generally stupid. I consider myself a Linux user - my laptop and a desktop have Gentoo Linux running on them, but my firewall is OpenBSD-based. My server is also OpenBSD-based. So, tell me wise guy. I'm I "ge

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/3/06, Qv6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Sunday 02 April 2006 07:58 pm, Deanna Phillips wrote: > > > > And yeah, Linux users are generally stupid. > > I consider myself a Linux user - my laptop and a desktop have Gentoo > Linux running on them, but my firewall is OpenBSD-based. My server is

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-02 Thread Peter
--- Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/3/06, Qv6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on Sunday 02 April 2006 07:58 pm, Deanna Phillips wrote: > > > > > > And yeah, Linux users are generally stupid. > > > > I consider myself a Linux user - my laptop and a desktop have > Gentoo > > Linux ru

Re: clarification of NAT behavior

2006-04-02 Thread Gabriel Wachman
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 03:28:36PM -0500, Gabriel Wachman wrote: > Everything I know about PF is taken from the PF/NAT FAQ's, and the pf > man page. > > Suppose you are using NAT as follows: > nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to ! $int_if:network -> ($ext_if) > > where $ext_if and $int_if are t

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-02 Thread Niklaus
On 4/2/06, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/2/06, Niklaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > what problem are you really trying to solve? > > really, what problem are you trying to solve? the fact that you have > untrusted users? > > > I understand the tunnelling through ssh part. > > C

Re: OpenBSD and the money

2006-04-02 Thread Steffen Kluge
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 10:16 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > Try > to name at least one incentive for Alberta to fund a project where the > financial benefits will largely be reaped outside of Alberta. For a lot of people, OpenBSD has put Alberta on the map... Cheers Steffen.