Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 23:28 -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: > On 7/11/05, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which leads me to ask... why is OpenBSD the only odd one out that > > requires Ctrl+Alt+F{1,2,3,4,5} when switching between text consoles? Is > > there really a good reason for leaving

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Artur Grabowski
"Shawn K. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 23:28 -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: > > On 7/11/05, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which leads me to ask... why is OpenBSD the only odd one out that > > > requires Ctrl+Alt+F{1,2,3,4,5} when switching between text c

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 7/12/2005, "Artur Grabowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Shawn K. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 23:28 -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: >> > On 7/11/05, Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Which leads me to ask... why is OpenBSD the only odd one out

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Artur Grabowski
"Edd Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does this really matter? What is it with trolls on the mailing lists these days? > If it does then someone should add an option that can be included in the > wscons config file (someplace in /etc. I forget the name). Maybe someone should run Linux if

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 7/12/2005, "Artur Grabowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Edd Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Does this really matter? > >What is it with trolls on the mailing lists these days? ?? > >> If it does then someone should add an option that can be included in the >> wscons co

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Jan Izary
GNU/Linux and FreeBSD still require Ctrl-Alt-Fx to switch back to a text console from X11. That's no reason to require Ctrl-Alt-Fx when switching between text consoles when X11 isn't even involved. No, reverse that. Why bother changing it at all? Just leave it be instead of having the same

Re: IPDPS 2005 Call for Papers

2005-07-12 Thread Dunceor .
A bit late maybe? On 7/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** > * IPDPS 2005 * > *

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:33:37AM -0500, Edd Barrett wrote: >[...] >While we are on the subject of keyboards, why is it that shift-3 in uk >keymap sends a hash-enter instead of a pound sign. Don't add empty lines between every line of your text. Then, check whether that is the same if y

Re: Cross-Compiling OpenBSD

2005-07-12 Thread Brett Lymn
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:09:42PM -0401, Nick Holland wrote: > > Let's see...what possibly fanless, low-power platforms do we have? >... > i386..ok, but you can native build on on Really Fast Stuff. > Uh huh... unless your Really Fast Stuff happens to be an amd64 box in which case you are no l

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Mats O Jansson
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Edd Barrett wrote: > > While we are on the subject of keyboards, why is it that shift-3 in uk > keymap sends a hash-enter instead of a pound sign. Well my 3.7-current gives a sterling sign as expected in console. Hash sign is hex 0x23 and sterling is 0xa3. Could it be your s

problems with hostroutes / arp routes

2005-07-12 Thread Michael Adam
Hi, I have encountered the (for me) undesired phenomenon that the "route change" command does not overwrite the routing flags of a present route at least for host routes. This has the effect that I cannot change a host route created by an arp entry (which is a LLINFO and clonded route) ino a sta

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 7/12/2005, "Mats O Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Edd Barrett wrote: >> >> While we are on the subject of keyboards, why is it that shift-3 in uk >> keymap sends a hash-enter instead of a pound sign. > >Well my 3.7-current gives a sterling sign as expected in c

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Han Boetes
Artur Grabowski wrote: > > What is it with trolls on the mailing lists these days? Nah, he was persistant, enthousiastic and unhindered by knowledge. It's pretty impossible for a guru to have a decent conversation with a stuborn noob. That's what happened here. # Han

Re: Cross-Compiling OpenBSD

2005-07-12 Thread Nick Holland
Brett Lymn wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:09:42PM -0401, Nick Holland wrote: >> >> Let's see...what possibly fanless, low-power platforms do we have? >>... >> i386..ok, but you can native build on on Really Fast Stuff. >> > > Uh huh... unless your Really Fast Stuff happens to be an amd64 b

Re: Cross-Compiling OpenBSD

2005-07-12 Thread Brett Lymn
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:10:02AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > > a bit of a disconnect with reality. > You need your build done in half an hour rather than an hour? > This argument line is nonsense. If you bought an amd64 to back up your > Soekris box, you blew it. > That statement assumes too

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 12 July 2005 04:33 -0500, Edd Barrett wrote: While we are on the subject of keyboards, why is it that shift-3 in uk> keymap sends a hash-enter instead of a pound sign. That's not the keymap, it's the shell. You don't get # when you type it into vi. Same thing happens ssh'd in from a Wi

getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Raphaël Berbain
Hi, I have a box running bind as a cache+forwarder setup. It connects to the ISP through DHCP. When dhclient kicks in, it fetches the ISP-provided DNS IPs and by default puts those in /etc/resolv.conf. Instead of that, I'd like /etc/resolv.conf to point to localhost. I'd also like dhclient to t

round-robin question

2005-07-12 Thread Monah Baki
Hi all, On my openbsd 3.7 bridge, I have the following rule: rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port 80 -> { 144.183.17.82, 144.183.17.84 } round-robin If I login to a computer it access servers one webpage, if I move to another computer, it access the seconds server webpage. However, I c

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Jason Opperisano
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:02:11PM +0200, Raphakl Berbain wrote: > Hi, > > I have a box running bind as a cache+forwarder setup. It connects to > the ISP through DHCP. When dhclient kicks in, it fetches the > ISP-provided DNS IPs and by default puts those in /etc/resolv.conf. > > Instead of tha

macutil confusion...

2005-07-12 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
Hi, I've got a file in .hqx format. I installed 'macutil' and fired up the manpage. It showed 7 tools within the package. One of them was 'hexbin' to convert files from .hqx to .bin Ran it and got the file converted to .bin Another tool is 'macunpack' which is supposed to take a macbinary file an

Re: undeadly dead

2005-07-12 Thread Jeffrey Lim
check http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20050711092418 also for the story. -jf

Re: sk gigabit NICs

2005-07-12 Thread Johan P . Lindström
I hear you, I bought 2 rev.2 sk cards that perform nice, low interrupt load, it seems that is the foremost quality of the cards, apart from the jumbo frames. Then I ordered 10 more and I ended up with an unsupported rev.3 card with a realtek chipset but it is still identified as a Linksys EG1032 in

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:02:11PM +0200, Rapha??l Berbain wrote: > I have a box running bind as a cache+forwarder setup. It connects to > the ISP through DHCP. When dhclient kicks in, it fetches the > ISP-provided DNS IPs and by default puts those in /etc/resolv.conf. > Instead of t

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Will H. Backman
> For the other part, if you're running your own nameserver, > why would you want to use forwarders at all? The use of forwarders is a good thing. It reduces the load on the root servers, and your DNS server gets to use closer servers that may already have the answer.

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2005-07-12 Thread =??B?amtpbmcx?=
sorry to reply late,my english is pool. no problem to this: ## #net.inet.ip.forwarding=1# #pfctl -e# ## ## # pfctl -v -sr today # ## scrub in all fragment reassemble [ Evaluations

links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
I would like to find the most secure www browser to use on OpenBSD for online banking. Should support java script and ssl... Sell on Yahoo! Auctions  no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Re: Cross-Compiling OpenBSD

2005-07-12 Thread Artur Grabowski
Brett Lymn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ASSUMING YOU EVER SEE IT. > > If you don't see a bug, you ship crap. > > > > That applies for both native and cross-built. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE > AN UNSEEN BUG MAY BE THERE REGARDLESS. It has happened in the past to > OpenBSD and it may just happen a

Re: Silly patch to allow alt + f[1-4] to switch consoles.

2005-07-12 Thread Michael Shalayeff
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Shawn K. Quinn: > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 22:31 -0500, Jaime Fournier wrote: > > This has only been used slightly without any real testing, so if you > > find > > any crashes due to it let me know. > > > > There is absolutely no guarantee that t

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Raphaël Berbain
* Jason Opperisano: > use a supersede directive for domain-name-servers in dhclient.conf like: Well, that's exactly what I said: I found several ways to keep /etc/resolv.conf the way I want it. This is one way. Another would be to hack in or around dhclient-script(8). Yet another one is that

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Stephen Marley
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: > > For the other part, if you're running your own nameserver, > > why would you want to use forwarders at all? > > The use of forwarders is a good thing. It reduces the load on the root > servers, and your DNS server gets to use cl

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Raphaël Berbain
* Alexander Bochmann: > The only way to change the bind settings would be through > a script that does it. But I don't think you could run > it from dhclient, as there's no way I know of to pass the > retrieved name server information to a script. dhclient already runs dhclient-script(8), and

What key length is used in blowfish hard disk encryption?

2005-07-12 Thread Stefan Ohletz
Reading the manual pages of vnconfig(8) and blowfish(3), I was asking myself how many characters are used for the encryption key of virtual disk devices at all. Looking at the source code of vnconfig, it looks to me as if the maximum number of characters which can be entered at the password pro

Re: OpenBSD log server

2005-07-12 Thread Josh Tolley
> On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:13 pm, Steve Shockley wrote: > > Qv6 wrote: > > > I have set up an OBSD firewall to replace my PIX, and configured it > > > to log to an OBSD log server - a loghost. I'll like to set up a web > > > interface to monitor the logs using msyslog (with mysql and php). > > > H

wscons: any changes in the near future?

2005-07-12 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
I am trying to use console framework on laptops that don't do X or cannot. I read thru the docs of wscons & Co and found that some features still dont work or are not documented. I have bundled several questions :) I would like to ask: 1) Is the wsconsole framework dependent of NetBSD development

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:24:04PM +0200, Rapha??l Berbain wrote: > * Alexander Bochmann: > > a script that does it. But I don't think you could run > > it from dhclient, as there's no way I know of to pass the > > retrieved name server information to a script. > dhclient already ru

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephen Marley > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:30 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Will H. Backman

Re: program(s) needed for an authentication server

2005-07-12 Thread Vivek Ayer
Guys, I like the usb flash idea. This actually isn't my computer. My friend donated it for the apartment. He gave it b/c it was struck by lightning. I don't even know if it works yet. He took out all the salvagable parts except 1G of RDRAM (yuck) and a firewire card (which I used) and a floppy. Co

Re: getting dhclient to update bind forwarders IPs

2005-07-12 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: > > For the other part, if you're running your own nameserver, > > why would you want to use forwarders at all? > The use of forwarders is a good thing. It reduces the load on the root > servers, and your DNS server gets to u

Re: ISAKMPD VPN w/ Cisco Concentrator

2005-07-12 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Paul, On Wed, 23.03.2005 at 12:28:17 -0500, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Authentication ESP/MD5/HMAC-128 > Should 'Athentication' above be AUTHENTICATION_METHOD in isakmpd.conf? this would translate to HASH_ALGORITHM= MD5 because there is no way to specify a key leng

failure for hw.sensors.4: 12.52V not within limits

2005-07-12 Thread Rob Foster
can this lead to a problem? ...many before this... Jul 12 04:13:15 feathers sensorsd[32141]: failure for hw.sensors.4: 12.52V not within limits Jul 12 04:25:16 feathers sensorsd[32141]: failure for hw.sensors.4: 12.52V not within limits Jul 12 04:31:16 feathers sensorsd[32141]: failure for hw.sens

3.7 install script - dhcp

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Bax
I just installed 3.7 twice - once with dhcp and once with static ip address - just to see what the differences were so I could make the transition manually if/when necessary. I notice that the dhcp install left two extra files on the system not found on the static ip install. Should a couple of

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Bob Beck
You said java script and secure in the same sentence.. hee hee. Banks don't give a shit about security. their sites are full of garbage that make you run crap like that. You'll probably have to use firefox or internet exploder to use their on-line banking. hold your nose and smile.

Re: failure for hw.sensors.4: 12.52V not within limits

2005-07-12 Thread Henning Brauer
* Rob Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-12 17:59]: > can this lead to a problem? > > ...many before this... > Jul 12 04:13:15 feathers sensorsd[32141]: failure for hw.sensors.4: > 12.52V not within limits > Jul 12 04:25:16 feathers sensorsd[32141]: failure for hw.sensors.4: > 12.52V not within l

Re: 3.7 install script - dhcp

2005-07-12 Thread Walter Goulet
man resolv.conf(5) The resolv.conf.tail file is used to pass extra options to the resolver. dhclient effectively appends the options in resolv.conf.tail to the resolv.conf file. On 7/12/05, Frank Bax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just installed 3.7 twice - once with dhcp and once with static ip

Testimonial

2005-07-12 Thread Ray Percival
I just upgraded a ftp server that has been running on Debian stable for the last 3 years, yes I know unsafe and unclean and all that but sadly my only choice is what to run it on not to make our customers go to sftp. I just upgraded it to OpenBSD 3.7. Setting it up in a more secure manner than

mac os x client to isakmpd

2005-07-12 Thread Karl-Heinz Wild
I try to connect a openbsd server running 3.7-current and running an isakmpd server with my mac os x 10.4.1 vpn client. I use the configuration from http://klake.org/~jt/tips/80211.html I get 191816.680407 Negt 70 attribute_unacceptable: received unexpected life attribute 191816.680506 Negt

PacSec/core05 Call For Papers

2005-07-12 Thread Dragos Ruiu
English url: http://pacsec.jp/speakers.html?LANG=ENGLISH Japanese url: http://pacsec.jp/speakers.html?LANG=JAPANESE PacSec/core05 CALL FOR PAPERS World Security Pros To Converge on Japan November 15/16 TOKYO, Japan -- To address the increasing importance of information security in Japan, the b

Re: USB2 status?

2005-07-12 Thread Joe Szedula
>On 7/11/05 9:57 PM, Rene Rivera wrote: >I'm considering implementing a disk based backup system using USB2 >hot-swap bays. > >* Do others have such a system in use? And how is it working out? > >* Has anyone done throughput measurements? How close to the 480Mbds >theory is practice? > >* A

Re: 3.7 install script - dhcp

2005-07-12 Thread Frank Bax
Thanks for the clarification, but I'm thinking your man pages must be -current, because I can find no mention of resolv.conf.tail in any man pages on my 3.7 (cdrom) system. The -current man pages on openbsd.org website appear to confirm the behaviour already present in cdrom release. At 01:

Re: Test

2005-07-12 Thread barrylippitt
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Re: vpncsetting routes problem

2005-07-12 Thread Ben Hooper
|I'm trying out vpnc to connect to the cisco concentrator at my |workplace. | |The connect itself works without a problem. | |Only the setting of the routes didn't work at all. |The problem is that nothing works... No traffic seems to |pass... Though when trying with a win machine and the cisc

Re: 3.7 install script - dhcp

2005-07-12 Thread Walter Goulet
Well I installed via FTP onto my Zaurus about a month ago. The change documenting resolv.conf.tail in that manpage was made after the 3.7 release. Regardless, the installation shouldn't remove resolv.conf.tail. Frank Bax wrote: Thanks for the clarification, but I'm thinking your man pages must

Audigy LS PCI (soundcard) support in 3.7/i386?

2005-07-12 Thread Anon Y. Mous
Hi: I have two audio cards, one on the motherboard: Ensoniq Audio PCI97 (eap0), and one PCI Creative Labs Audigy LS (pci0). The kernel won't configure the Audigy. Is the Audigy series supported by OpenBSD as of 3.7/i386? Can I add the Audigy as a new device using MAKEDEV? I have attache

Re: What key length is used in blowfish hard disk encryption?

2005-07-12 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Stefan Ohletz wrote: > Reading the manual pages of vnconfig(8) and blowfish(3), I was asking myself > how many characters are used for the encryption key of virtual disk devices at > all. Looking at the source code of vnconfig, it looks to me as if the maximum > number of char

Re: ral0 problem

2005-07-12 Thread Brad
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:20:24PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Matt Brenneke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Nevermind that "almost working" comment, if I walk more than 15 feet > > away from the base station the signal goes from 75 to 0. Time to dump > > this cheap card. Does anyone

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Neta
Just curious! Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? On 7/12/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You said java script and secure in the same sentence.. hee hee. > > Banks don't give a shit about security. their sites are full > of garbage

Re: ral0 problem

2005-07-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:20:24PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > > Matt Brenneke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Nevermind that "almost working" comment, if I walk more than 15 feet > > > away from the base station the signal goes from 75 to 0. Time to dump > > > this cheap card.

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:40 +0700, Neta wrote: >Just curious! >Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? Just curious! Could you show me how Google did not supply you with an answer? 166000 hits 40400 if Internet Explorer excluded. Lazy boy! >From the land "dow

X.org with ATI-card on 3.7-current and release

2005-07-12 Thread Dunceor .
(Seems like my mail bounced last time, any limit on the size?). Jonathan Thornburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mailed about a problem with X.org and OpenBSD about a month ago. His mail is here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=111823844021367&w=2 I now seem to have the same problem. I run O

Re: 3.7 install script - dhcp

2005-07-12 Thread viq
On Wednesday 13 of July 2005 06:50, Walter Goulet wrote: > Well I installed via FTP onto my Zaurus about a month ago. The change > documenting resolv.conf.tail in that manpage was made after the 3.7 > release. > > Regardless, the installation shouldn't remove resolv.conf.tail. Especially since it