Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-14 Thread Per Fogelström
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 00:50, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Per Fogelstrvm wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 June 2006 14:23, Rick Kelly wrote: > >>Johnny Billquist said: > There's actually a cheesy way to do demand paging with microprocessors > that don't support demand paging (such as the original

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Marcus Watts
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Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
Per Fogelstrvm wrote: On Tuesday 13 June 2006 14:23, Rick Kelly wrote: Johnny Billquist said: There's actually a cheesy way to do demand paging with microprocessors that don't support demand paging (such as the original 68000--another "16 bit" machine). The way to do this is to run two proce

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Per Fogelström
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 14:23, Rick Kelly wrote: > Johnny Billquist said: > >> There's actually a cheesy way to do demand paging with microprocessors > >> that don't support demand paging (such as the original 68000--another > >> "16 bit" machine). The way to do this is to run two processors in >

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Rick Kelly
Johnny Billquist said: >> There's actually a cheesy way to do demand paging with microprocessors >> that don't support demand paging (such as the original 68000--another >> "16 bit" machine). The way to do this is to run two processors in parallel >> but skewed by one instruction. If the first o

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Otto Moerbeek
ne 12, 2006 1:15 PM > > > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Nikolas Britton; Ted Unangst > > > > Cc: Hamorszky Balazs; misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: wikipedia article > > > > > >

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: wikipedia article On Nov 1, 6:11pm, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: } } Prior to the release of the 80386 the Intel processors didn't have } memory protection which was a requirement of any processor running } the BSD kernel. This is not entirely t

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
Marcus Watts wrote: Various wrote: From: Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... What's more, iirc the MMU of the pdp11 isn't what we call a MMU today, it could not even do paging. The pdp-11 mmu could handle program relocation, segmentation (after a

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:14:57PM -0700, John Nemeth wrote: > The 80386 was the first x86 > processor with paging (which all modern virtual > memory systems are based around) and 32 bits. -is

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-13 Thread Johnny Billquist
That qualifies as the answer of the day. My hat goes off to you. :-D Johnny Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:27:33PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: What was the bit size of the CPU's originally used to write UNIX in Bell Labs? Rather large. You can get all the

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Marcus Watts
Various wrote: > From: Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > > What was the bit size of the CPU's originally used to write UNIX in Bell > > Labs? > > What's more, iirc the MMU of the pdp11 isn't what we call a MMU today, > it could not even do paging.

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Thor Lancelot Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:35 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On Mon, Jun 12,

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Otto Moerbeek
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: wikipedia article > > > > > >On Nov 1, 6:11pm, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > >} > >} Prior to the release of the 80386 the Intel processors didn't have > >} memory protection

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:27:33PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > What was the bit size of the CPU's originally used to write UNIX in Bell > Labs? Rather large. You can get all the details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_core. -- Thor Lancelot Simon

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: John Nemeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:15 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Nikolas Britton; Ted Unangst >Cc: Hamorszky Balazs; misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: wikipedia

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thor >Lancelot Simon >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:48 AM >To: Dale Rahn >Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipedia article &

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
ECTED]; Hamorszky Balazs; >freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: wikipedia article > > >On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >[SNIP] >> * IIRC N

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Matthias Kilian
Could this discussion please be moved to the Wikipedia discussion pages?

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Bob Beck
* Constantine A. Murenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-12 15:07]: > On 11/06/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems > > Whilst there, what about another impo

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 11/06/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems Whilst there, what about another important article that seems to have a Linux POV? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread John Nemeth
On Nov 1, 6:11pm, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: } } Prior to the release of the 80386 the Intel processors didn't have } memory protection which was a requirement of any processor running } the BSD kernel. This is not entirely true. The 80286 had memory protection. However, its memory protecti

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Darrin Chandler
ticular application. If the wikipedia article helps people determine suitability for a purpose then it's worthwhile. The history is already out there, and can be included or merely linked to. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http:/

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:23:06AM -0400, Dale Rahn wrote: > On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD > > > > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Dale Rahn
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote: > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD > > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. >

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Mipam
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: [SNIP] > * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD, OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD. Eeh? I believe NetBSD was there half a year before FreeBSD. Bye, Mipam.

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikolas Britton >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:46 PM >To: Ted Unangst >Cc: Hamorszky Balazs; misc@openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: wikipe

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 6/12/06, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release. Yes as many others

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release.

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/11/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems > THX! > What kind of help are you looking for

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 6/11/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems THX! What kind of help are you looking for? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freeb

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/11/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems THX! where can i download openbsd ia-64? lighttpd is the only other web server that runs on openbsd? is t

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Hámorszky Balázs
ok. i won't tell you :) but i'm pleased to hear your opinion. Thanks! knitti wrote: On 6/11/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems I think this is an exercis

Re: wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread knitti
On 6/11/06, Hamorszky Balazs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems I think this is an exercise in futility, for staying up-to-date, for trying to be unbiased and non-arbitrary. wh

wikipedia article

2006-06-11 Thread Hámorszky Balázs
Hi! I'm looking for some help on an article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_operating_systems THX!

Re: The Wikipedia article on OpenBSD

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Chris Zakelj wrote: Jan Izary wrote: Recently I and several other people have worked to improve the OpenBSD article contained in the Wikipedia, I'm sure I need not explain how it works. Anyways, I've worked to get as much easily accessable information regarding OpenBSD in that article as poss

Re: The Wikipedia article on OpenBSD

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Zakelj
Jan Izary wrote: > Recently I and several other people have worked to improve the OpenBSD > article contained in the Wikipedia, I'm sure I need not explain how it > works. > > Anyways, I've worked to get as much easily accessable information > regarding OpenBSD in that article as possible and I've

Re: The Wikipedia article on OpenBSD

2005-10-06 Thread Marcos Latas
On 06/10/05, Jan Izary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I and several other people have worked to improve the OpenBSD > article contained in the Wikipedia, I'm sure I need not explain how it > works. > > Anyways, I've worked to get as much easily accessable information regarding > OpenBSD in t

The Wikipedia article on OpenBSD

2005-10-06 Thread Jan Izary
Recently I and several other people have worked to improve the OpenBSD article contained in the Wikipedia, I'm sure I need not explain how it works. Anyways, I've worked to get as much easily accessable information regarding OpenBSD in that article as possible and I've pretty much run into a w