Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-24 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lars Noodin wrote: > > 2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation > where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? When I happened to get an obsd kernel running on an 8M memory machine by stripping out network support, unn

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-18 17:13]: > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 18:59]: > > > Hi > > > > > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 15:5

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-18 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 18:59]: > > Hi > > > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 15:51]: > > > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > *

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
You can tweak this in boot.conf, it's not necessary to alter the kernel config. Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: > > > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kern

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 16, 2008 12:20 PM, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Daemon wrote: > ... > > As for others saying 'why re-compile GENERIC', well, GENERIC is awesome > in > > itself and there is no need generally. But I think the reason for some > > people is that they too like tweaking /usr

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 18:59]: > Hi > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 15:51]: > > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > >

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
Hi 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 15:51]: > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > > > > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in >

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Bryan Irvine
> 2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation > where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? An appletalk router. -Bryan

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Paul de Weerd wrote: [...] port in /etc/ttys (see ttys(5) for more info). But yeah, like Henning said .. absolutely no need to build a new kernel. Definitely not worth the effort just to change the console speed. I do custom kernels to build a ramdisk kernel that has some special application

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 12:05]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Nick Holland
Richard Daemon wrote: ... > As for others saying 'why re-compile GENERIC', well, GENERIC is awesome in > itself and there is no need generally. But I think the reason for some > people is that they too like tweaking /usr/src/sys/conf/GENERIC & > /usr/src/sys/arch/$ARCH/conf/GENERIC to remove any un

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
Hi 2008/1/16, Richard Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jan 16, 2008 9:42 AM, Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > > > > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I fo

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 16, 2008 9:42 AM, Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > > > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in > > > flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashb

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 15:51]: > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > > > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in > > > flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customi

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in > > flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customisations. Thanks > > for pointing this out. > > flash boot and teh

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 14:18]: > Didn't know it is exactly the same as options. I found it in > flashboot. I'll look more in to other flashboot customisations. Thanks > for pointing this out. flash boot and teh like are obsolete ways to complicate your life. -- Henni

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 12:05]: > > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: > > > > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for >

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 13:35]: > | 2) Under what circumstances (generally) would one encounter a situation > | where it would strongly desirable to have a custom kernel? > > I think the goal is "never". Under no circumstances *should* it be > 'strongly desirable' to have a

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread knitti
On 1/16/08, Lars NoodC)n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Should anything be done to the GENERIC kernel's run time > configuration then to improve performance, reduce system requirements or > otherwise prevent it from making beer go flat? nope. I've been running a couple of net4501 (100MHz/64MB RAM

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:16:40PM +0200, Lars Nood??n wrote: | > ... (see ttys(5) for more info). But yeah, like Henning | > said .. absolutely no need to build a new kernel. | | 1) Should anything be done to the GENERIC kernel's run time | configuration then to improve performance, reduce system

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Lars Noodén
Paul de Weerd wrote: > ... > Don't forget to change the speed on the getty running on the serial > port in /etc/ttys ... to summarize for the sake of the archives: /etc/boot.conf: stty com0 38400 set tty com0 /etc/ttys: tty00 "/usr/libexec/getty std.38400" vt220on

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:19PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: | > IMHO every embedded device should have console speed synced between | > bios and the kernel. These options are very helpful. I completely agree with the first part here. BIOS, kernel and console speed should be the same across the

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 12:05]: > 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: > > > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for > > > the soekris? > > > > nothing. there is no need to c

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:01:28 +0100, Piotrek Kapczuk wrote: >2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: >> > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for >> > the soekris? >> >> nothing. there is no need to compi

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Piotrek Kapczuk
2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: > > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for > > the soekris? > > nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel for the soekris. further, > there is no use in compili

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for > the soekris? nothing. there is no need to compile a kernel for the soekris. further, there is no use in compiling a !GENERIC kernel for soekris either. (ok, rare excep

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Lars Noodén
Richard Daemon wrote: > Are you compiling from i386 or amd64, or other? Is it -current, -stable or > -release that you're compiling? -stable on i386 OpenBSD compilorama 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386 > Personally, I just run 4.2-stable on my Soekris & Wrap boxes as well as my Yeah the regular installatio

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Daemon
On Jan 15, 2008 11:34 AM, Lars NoodC)n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for > the soekris? > > I would like to build a streamlined kernel to run on a net4801. I'm > running into problems though. > > 'make depend' runs without error, b

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Diana Eichert
take a look at one of the stripped "embedded" OpenBSD builds out there, flashdist or flashboot. diana

building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-15 Thread Lars Noodén
What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? I would like to build a streamlined kernel to run on a net4801. I'm running into problems though. 'make depend' runs without error, but then 'make' comes up with many errors like the following: agp_ali.o(