On 10/10/11 17:49 +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 09:10:16PM +, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote:
>> Loganaden Velvindron gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >
>> > If we don't shake things up, things will not change ! Running -current
and
>> > testing diffs _helps_ OpenBSD development signific
* Kevin Chadwick [111012 06:30]:
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:14:13 +
From: Kevin Chadwick
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:12:54 + (UTC)
Stuart Henderson wrote:
> often you'll hit upon the solution yourself.
At the same time as hitting the send button and then the words Oh
Bollocks! ringing in your head.
On 2011-10-12, Johan Ryberg wrote:
> My own experience about "newbe" questions is that if you put effort in
> the question and explains how far you got and provides all info then
> you often got god answers but if you simply haven't tried any thing
> and not read faq, howtos, older conversations i
newbies has low traffic, but there are still plenty of people
subscribed. Feel free to mail it (openbsd-newb...@theapt.org) your
questions.
On 2011 Oct 12 (Wed) at 10:21:51 +0300 (+0300), Mihai Popescu wrote:
:I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so
:I'm not able yet
My own experience about "newbe" questions is that if you put effort in
the question and explains how far you got and provides all info then
you often got god answers but if you simply haven't tried any thing
and not read faq, howtos, older conversations in the list and so on
then you often got the
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:21:51 +0300
Mihai Popescu wrote:
> I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so
> I'm not able yet to implement and test those patches.
> Tried most of the FAQ and other docs but no luck until now. Beginner
> questions are not welcomed here and newbie
I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so
I'm not able yet to implement and test those patches.
Tried most of the FAQ and other docs but no luck until now. Beginner
questions are not welcomed here and newbies@ has low traffic. You can
say I can edit and send out the diff f
On 2011-10-10, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote:
> Marc Espie nerim.net> writes:
>> Don't blame the tools. Blame the *people* who don't test.
>
> I wonder why jasper@ went to github if mailing lists are
> good enough.
That (openbsd-wip) has nothing to do with tracking bugs, it's a place
where people can
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote:
> Marc Espie nerim.net> writes:
>
>>
>> Don't blame the tools. Blame the *people* who don't test.
>
> I wonder why jasper@ went to github if mailing lists are
> good enough.
ports and base are different enough I don't think we should immediately
d
Marc Espie nerim.net> writes:
>
> Don't blame the tools. Blame the *people* who don't test.
I wonder why jasper@ went to github if mailing lists are
good enough.
And you didn't respond on dead bug-tracker issue: if people
test where is a place to put results?
Alexey
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 09:10:16PM +, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote:
> Loganaden Velvindron gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > If we don't shake things up, things will not change ! Running -current and
> > testing diffs _helps_ OpenBSD development significantly.
>
> The problem, IMO, how process is or
* Loganaden Velvindron [111009 12:45]:
Fellow OpenBSD users,
I've noticed a disturbing trend: Very few users are testing
patches that developers/contributors are posting.
You raised some good points. Thanks for the reminder to help out
the devs. :-)
--
W. Steven Schneider
Loganaden Velvindron gmail.com> writes:
>
> If we don't shake things up, things will not change ! Running -current and
> testing diffs _helps_ OpenBSD development significantly.
The problem, IMO, how process is organized.
Mailing lists are not designed for commenting and reviewing
diffs. Patch
Fellow OpenBSD users,
I've noticed a disturbing trend: Very few users are testing
patches that developers/contributors are posting.
In OpenBSD, -current is NOT volatile as other projects. So
you can grab a a snapshot and start using it right away.
Ariane posted a huge diff to drastically reduce
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