Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-30 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-05-29 Fri 00:09 AM |, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Craig Skinner wrote: > > > RFC 5321, in section "4.5.4.1. Sending Strategy" has: > > > > > > From memory, they honour the 4 day rule. > > I believe so with the possible exception of hotmail as I seem to > remember thinking it was typical th

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-05-28, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:39:11 +0100 > Craig Skinner wrote: > >> RFC 5321, in section "4.5.4.1. Sending Strategy" has: >> >> >> ... >> .. >> >>Retries continue until the message is transmitted or the sender gives >>up; the give-up time generally

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-28 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:39:11 +0100 Craig Skinner wrote: > RFC 5321, in section "4.5.4.1. Sending Strategy" has: > > > ... > .. > >Retries continue until the message is transmitted or the sender gives >up; the give-up time generally needs to be at least 4-5 days. . > > > > Are

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Craig Skinner
Hi Alex, On 2015-05-18 Mon 16:37 PM |, Alex Greif wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 02:20:08PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: > > yes, this should help, in the case that the sender tries longer > than 4 hours. > RFC 5321, in section "4.5.4.1. Sending Strategy" has: ... .. Retries continu

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Alex Greif
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 02:20:08PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote: Hi Craig, yes, this should help, in the case that the sender tries longer than 4 hours. Are there any experiences, after how many hours/days the sender side (at the large ones like google, yahoo, hotmail, etc) gives up? thanks, Alex.

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-05-18 Mon 09:26 AM |, Alex Greif wrote: > > I am using spamd on a current installation in greylisting mode, > and have have problems with large sites that have several > SMTP servers but no SPF ip-address ranges. Hi Alex, Bumping up the spamd(8) greyexp time to 2-4 days works well (on 5.

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Adam Wolk
On Mon, 18 May 2015 09:26:13 +0200 Alex Greif wrote: > Hi, > I am using spamd on a current installation in greylisting mode, > and have have problems with large sites that have several > SMTP servers but no SPF ip-address ranges. > Sometimes I have more than 10 mail server IPs in the greylisted >

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Alex Greif
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:52:52AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:05:45AM +0200, Alex Greif wrote: > > But in some cases, the sender mail server tried so often from different > > SMTP IPs, and finally gave up with an error to the sender. Then the sender > > and > >

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:05:45AM +0200, Alex Greif wrote: > But in some cases, the sender mail server tried so often from different > SMTP IPs, and finally gave up with an error to the sender. Then the sender and > receiver persons are quite unhappy, and a lot of time is vasted. In most cases th

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Alex Greif
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:46:19AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:26:13AM +0200, Alex Greif wrote: > > I am using spamd on a current installation in greylisting mode, > > and have have problems with large sites that have several > > SMTP servers but no SPF ip-addres

Re: spamd - whitelist sender email addresses

2015-05-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:26:13AM +0200, Alex Greif wrote: > I am using spamd on a current installation in greylisting mode, > and have have problems with large sites that have several > SMTP servers but no SPF ip-address ranges. > Sometimes I have more than 10 mail server IPs in the greylisted >

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-24 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:50:52PM +, Craig Skinner wrote: | Don't trust SPF;- last time I looked, Google listed about 78,000 ips. | Liars. Their HR PCs, routers, web servers, tape silos, visitor lobby | Wifi zones aren't valid senders. Only 78000 IPs? I think you're off by either a factor of

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-24 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2015-02-23 Mon 22:38 PM |, F Bax wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. I whitelisted the ip addresses for mta[567]. > am0.yahoodns.net ; but email from yahoo still gets bounced. > Email is not instant messaging. I don't bother with whitelisting, but rather set the spamd(8) greyexp time to 48 ho

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-23 Thread trondd
On February 23, 2015 10:38:37 PM EST, F Bax wrote: >Thanks for the suggestion. I whitelisted the ip addresses for mta[567]. >am0.yahoodns.net ; but email from yahoo still gets bounced. Is there >an >easy way to find all the other sources at yahoo? > >The message bounced back to yahoo contains...

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-23 Thread F Bax
Thanks for the suggestion. I whitelisted the ip addresses for mta[567]. am0.yahoodns.net ; but email from yahoo still gets bounced. Is there an easy way to find all the other sources at yahoo? The message bounced back to yahoo contains... Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yah

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-02-22, Markus Kolb wrote: > Why you'd like to whitelist yahoo.com or gmail.com or any other > non-related smtp? > I think whitelisting makes only sense for smtps you control or are > somehow in relation to your network. Because some of these large senders send mail from multiple servers

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-22 Thread Markus Kolb
Am 2015-02-21 23:51, schrieb F Bax: In this archived message; Peter explains here how to get ip address for various gmail servers - which can then be added to whitelist... http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=136449396910976&w=2 When I try this process for yahoo.com; I get Why you'd like to whi

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-22 Thread Jan Stary
> Just because you send mail to Yahoo through those IPs doesn't mean they > send mail to you from those IPs. It's not unheard of for incoming and > outgoing mail to go through different servers once you get to a certain > size. Exactly. Some institutions even delegate both incomming and outgoing m

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-21 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 02/21/15 18:29, Martin Brandenburg wrote: Edgar Pettijohn wrote: On 02/21/15 18:09, trondd wrote: On 2015-02-21 18:57, Martin Brandenburg wrote: That doesn't mean you can't find the information somewhere else. I just did this for gmail by simply sending a couple emails, letting gmail retr

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-21 Thread Martin Brandenburg
Edgar Pettijohn wrote: > On 02/21/15 18:09, trondd wrote: > > On 2015-02-21 18:57, Martin Brandenburg wrote: > >> That doesn't mean you can't find the information somewhere else. > >> > > > > I just did this for gmail by simply sending a couple emails, letting > > gmail retry for a couple hours an

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-21 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 02/21/15 18:09, trondd wrote: On 2015-02-21 18:57, Martin Brandenburg wrote: That doesn't mean you can't find the information somewhere else. I just did this for gmail by simply sending a couple emails, letting gmail retry for a couple hours and grabbing the IPs out of spamdb. Tim. $

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-21 Thread trondd
On 2015-02-21 18:57, Martin Brandenburg wrote: That doesn't mean you can't find the information somewhere else. I just did this for gmail by simply sending a couple emails, letting gmail retry for a couple hours and grabbing the IPs out of spamdb. Tim.

Re: spamd whitelist

2015-02-21 Thread Martin Brandenburg
> From owner-misc+M146963=martin=martinbrandenburg@openbsd.org Sat Feb 21 > 23:48:17 2015 > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:51:28 -0500 > Message-ID: > > Subject: spamd whitelist > From: F Bax > To: OpenBSD > List-ID: > > In this archived message; Peter explains here how to get ip address for

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-20 Thread Bob Beck
> I am 99% sure that I have seen on the internet SOMEWHERE a "whitelist" > of servers that are like this. I thought Bob Beck had forwarded one at > one point in time, but I can only find his post regarding the tarfile he > maintains for the "zombie" hosts. > > Bob, if you are listening, what d

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
>GREY|205.152.59.67... >GREY|205.152.59.68... >GREY|205.152.59.72... Unless it's changed since I asked, the policy of the list on greylisting.org is not to list "common queue" sender pools from a /24 or smaller block because it's intended to be used with milter-greylist which masks out the last by

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-20 Thread Steve Tornio
On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Will H. Backman wrote: Steve Williams wrote: Bob, if you are listening, what do you do at the U of A to handle these mis-behaving server pools? Anyone else?? I have been running spamd for several years now, and have found that it works quite well for my comp

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-20 Thread Will H. Backman
Steve Williams wrote: Hi, I have been running spamdb greylisting only for several years as my only line of defense at home. At work I have managed to sneak in a Sparc64 Sunfire 120 (OpenBSD 3.9) as a caching web proxy & default gateway. Today, we had a fairly agressive attack on our email

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-19 Thread Kevin Reay
On 10/19/06, Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have been running spamdb greylisting only for several years as my only line of defense at home. At work I have managed to sneak in a Sparc64 Sunfire 120 (OpenBSD 3.9) as a caching web proxy & default gateway. Today, we had a fairly

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-19 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:23:20PM -0600, Steve Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I have been running spamdb greylisting only for several years as my only > line of defense at home. At work I have managed to sneak in a Sparc64 > Sunfire 120 (OpenBSD 3.9) as a caching web proxy & default gateway. > > T

Re: Spamd - whitelist of mis-behaving SMTP server POOLS

2006-10-19 Thread Jon Simola
On 10/19/06, Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am 99% sure that I have seen on the internet SOMEWHERE a "whitelist" of servers that are like this. I thought Bob Beck had forwarded one at one point in time, but I can only find his post regarding the tarfile he maintains for the "zombie