On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:36 PM, T. Valent wrote:
> Folks, yes, I appreciate your attempt to help a lot. And I really am on
> your side if we're talking about "normal" machines.
>
> However, obviously nobody believes me when I say "For us there is no
> reason to update to newer versions of OpenBS
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:34:14 -0400 Nick Holland
wrote:
> The great fantasy of many people in the IT world is lots of identical
> hardware and software. Sorry, this is completely unrealistic, or at
> least completely unhealthy, in the big picture.
Until they understand reality and finally achiev
Nick Holland wrote:
With Windows, Solaris or Linux, you hunt down drivers when new
hardware comes out. OpenBSD makes you do some work, too -- upgrade to
a new release. My experience has been that upgrading is easier than
hunting down the new drivers.
I think that this fact is a pretty good
Brad Tilley wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:36 +0100, "T. Valent" wrote:
>
>> In the end it seems like I have to give up the idea of keeping all
>> installations on the same level, it seems like I have create a complete
>> new platform (new motherboard type and new OpenBSD version) for all new
>>
T. Valent wrote:
> Folks, yes, I appreciate your attempt to help a lot. And I really am on
> your side if we're talking about "normal" machines.
>
> However, obviously nobody believes me when I say "For us there is no
> reason to update to newer versions of OpenBSD yet. On the contrary,
> maintena
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:36 +0100, "T. Valent" wrote:
> In the end it seems like I have to give up the idea of keeping all
> installations on the same level, it seems like I have create a complete
> new platform (new motherboard type and new OpenBSD version) for all new
> customers, just because I
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:46:05AM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote:
> "T. Valent" at 2010-03-21 10:36:59
> wrote:
>
> >In the end it seems like I have to give up the idea of keeping all
> >installations on the same level, it seems like I have create a complete
> >new platform (new motherboard type
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0100, T. Valent wrote:
> In the end it seems like I have to give up the idea of keeping all
> installations on the same level, it seems like I have create a complete
> new platform (new motherboard type and new OpenBSD version) for all new
> customers, just becau
"T. Valent" at 2010-03-21 10:36:59
wrote:
>In the end it seems like I have to give up the idea of keeping all
>installations on the same level, it seems like I have create a complete
>new platform (new motherboard type and new OpenBSD version) for all new
>customers, just because I cannot find
Folks, yes, I appreciate your attempt to help a lot. And I really am on
your side if we're talking about "normal" machines.
However, obviously nobody believes me when I say "For us there is no
reason to update to newer versions of OpenBSD yet. On the contrary,
maintenance is a lot easier for us if
On Saturday 20 March 2010 15:02:40 T. Valent wrote:
> Hi!
>
> We're using OpenBSD 4.3 kernels on a larger number of machines.
>
> (For us there is no reason to update to newer versions of OpenBSD yet.
> On the contrary, maintenance is a lot easier for us if we try to keep
> all systems on the same
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 08:22:39PM +0100, T. Valent wrote:
> > OpenBSD 4.3 is no longer officially supported.
>
> That wasn't my question. I didn't ask for support, I thought maybe
> someone has an idea which recent boards could be compatible to 4.3.
>
> It's a valid question, isn't it? ;-)
Frie
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 09:11:59PM +0100, T. Valent wrote:
> [old versions on new hardware]
>
> > And the answer is that we wouldn't know, since we don't run old code.
>
> I didn't expect that anyone of the OpenBSD core-team would have an
> answer due to the obvious fact that you must be working
[old versions on new hardware]
> And the answer is that we wouldn't know, since we don't run old code.
I didn't expect that anyone of the OpenBSD core-team would have an
answer due to the obvious fact that you must be working with the latest
versions.
But who knows, maybe I'm lucky and there's s
> > OpenBSD 4.3 is no longer officially supported.
>
> That wasn't my question. I didn't ask for support, I thought maybe
> someone has an idea which recent boards could be compatible to 4.3.
>
> It's a valid question, isn't it? ;-)
Sure, it's a valid question.
And the answer is that we wouldn'
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 08:22:39PM +0100, T. Valent wrote:
> > OpenBSD 4.3 is no longer officially supported.
>
> That wasn't my question. I didn't ask for support, I thought maybe
> someone has an idea which recent boards could be compatible to 4.3.
>
> It's a valid question, isn't it? ;-)
No,
> OpenBSD 4.3 is no longer officially supported.
That wasn't my question. I didn't ask for support, I thought maybe
someone has an idea which recent boards could be compatible to 4.3.
It's a valid question, isn't it? ;-)
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM, T. Valent wrote:
> (For us there is no reason to update to newer versions of OpenBSD yet.
>
Quoting Section 5.1 of the FAQ:
"...old releases are typically supported up to two releases back. It takes
resources and time to support older versions, while we might l
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