Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-08 Thread chefren
On 05/06/09 13:33, J.C. Roberts wrote: I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber links, .. > As far as my understanding allows, I believe the best way to do this is with a physical network tap connected to monitoring equipment.

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread Diana Eichert
more OT crap On Wed, 6 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote: SNIP CORRECTION: "... just a girl with technical super powers, and a lab that makes everyone very, very jealous." -- J.C. Roberts Trust me, I don't have super powers. I just happen to be in the right place at the right time to get a contra

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread Diana Eichert
This is so freakn' Off Topic. :-) On Thu, 7 May 2009, Rolf Sommerhalder wrote: SNIP Arien Vijn from AMS-IX has given some interesting presentations on monitoring 10GE, also using the Meta / Force10 Networks "programmable NIC" and a photonic cross connect/splitter: http://events.ccc.de/congress/

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread David Vasek
On Wed, 6 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote: [...] Well, a good number of the 10-Gbit/s Eethernet cards on the market actually have dual 10GbE interfaces in one configuration or another. The most typical configuration that *I* have seen is the two bonded (20-Gbit/s) as a single logical interface wit

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
> (There is/was a voice/video recording if the session, but I can find > it right now.) Here is the link to the presentation Arien held a year later, and this one has pointers to videos of his talk: 10GE monitoring live! How to find that special one out of millions http://events.ccc.de/congre

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
> I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency > or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber links, so most of the typical > methods are out of the question After re-reading your post(s) and the thread, I am still unsure what level of detail you need, e.g. what you mean by "coll

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-07 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium
From: "J.C. Roberts" To: "Johan Fredin" On 09-05-07 05.00, J.C. Roberts wrote: > If anyone here mistakenly thinks they can actually run *ANALYSIS* at > these speeds with off the shelf components... > > BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well, depends on what you mean by "off the shelf". Procera Networks is

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 07 May 2009 06:10:30 +0200 Johan Fredin wrote: > On 09-05-07 05.00, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > If anyone here mistakenly thinks they can actually run *ANALYSIS* at > > these speeds with off the shelf components... > > > > BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > Well, depends on what you mean by "off t

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Johan Fredin
On 09-05-07 05.00, J.C. Roberts wrote: If anyone here mistakenly thinks they can actually run *ANALYSIS* at these speeds with off the shelf components... BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well, depends on what you mean by "off the shelf". Procera Networks is doing layer 7 analysis at 40Gbps FD with

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 6 May 2009 10:17:06 -0600 (MDT) Diana Eichert wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, openbsd misc wrote: > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Diana Eichert > > wrote: > > > >> We use physical taps at work, when I get the chance I'll take a > >> look at the vendor. > >> > >> Also, you really thin

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Weisgerber
openbsd misc wrote: >NSA,MI(x)/GCHQ,ASIO and their vendor friends would beg to differ. That would be DSD rather than ASIO, I think. (Since we are already wildly off-topic.) -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
Diana Eichert wrote: [...] > AKA what kind of money you have to throw at it. Isn't that always the case? ;) > Ours was the 2nd or third built, you could still get to > the FPGA with Xilinx development tools. A grad student, Jonathon > Donaldson, working in our organization used it > in the work

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Jeroen Massar wrote: SNIP it just depends on what kind of hardware one throws at it ;) Greets, Jeroen (long live IPSEC :) AKA what kind of money you have to throw at it. We had a 10G box that filtered on SNORT rules in hardware. We purchased it from MetaNetworks, who w

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
Diana Eichert wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, openbsd misc wrote: > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Diana Eichert >> wrote: >> >>> We use physical taps at work, when I get the chance I'll take a look at >>> the vendor. >>> >>> Also, you really think you can capture 10GE? Chuckle, good luck. Prett

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
openbsd misc wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote: I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber links, so most of the typical methods are out of the question (i

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Diana Eichert
We use NetOptics taps. diana

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 6 May 2009, openbsd misc wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: We use physical taps at work, when I get the chance I'll take a look at the vendor. Also, you really think you can capture 10GE? Chuckle, good luck. diana NSA,MI(x)/GCHQ,ASIO and their vendor f

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread openbsd misc
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote: > >> I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency >> or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber links, so most of the typical >> methods are out of the question (i.e. like bridging, S

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 6 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote: I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber links, so most of the typical methods are out of the question (i.e. like bridging, SPAN sessions on a switch, ...). As far as my understanding allow

Re: OT: 10GbE Physical Network Taps

2009-05-06 Thread Simen Stavdal
Hello jcr, Not quite sure if this would meet your needs, but you could look at anue systems : http://www.anuesystems.com Cheers, Simon. On Wed May 6 13:33 , "J.C. Roberts" sent: I need to collect raw throughput statistics without increasing latency or reducing bandwidth on 10GbE fiber li