Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-25 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 11:41:38AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Good for Germany, they have jurisprudence established. Now the rest of > the world. > > I meant a REAL case with real money and fancy lawyers involved. > Something like what happened with BSD and ATT. > and that's the misconcept

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Marco Peereboom wrote: Good for Germany, they have jurisprudence established. Now the rest of the world. US of A is not the rest of the world, it is the beginning of the end.. I meant a REAL case with real money and fancy lawyers involved. Something like what happened with BSD and ATT. On

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-17 Thread Marco Peereboom
Good for Germany, they have jurisprudence established. Now the rest of the world. I meant a REAL case with real money and fancy lawyers involved. Something like what happened with BSD and ATT. On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 07:37:00AM -0600, Jeffrey C. Ollie wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 08:28 +0100,

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-17 Thread Jeffrey C. Ollie
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 08:28 +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > > along. The GPL is fatally flawed and hasn't been tested in court. I > > wouldn't bet my code or company on it. > > the GPL actually has been tested in court in germany. > I lack the details, but using google they

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Marco Peereboom wrote: along. The GPL is fatally flawed and hasn't been tested in court. I wouldn't bet my code or company on it. the GPL actually has been tested in court in germany. I lack the details, but using google they surely show up. - mb

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 05:44, Vim Visual wrote: > btw are you using X? X isn't GPL. > and if so, which wm? Irrelevant. > most of them are under the > gpl, right? No, some are. > this must hurt if you're such a bsd license defender... Keep your flamebait off the list. --- Lars Hanss

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll even bite again Mr. Vim Visual. On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:44:54PM +0100, Vim Visual wrote: > I am a newcomer to this community but I have the "feeling" that I have > put my finger on a... sensitive point Sharp observation! Maybe it has something to do with the BSD part of OpenBSD. > > in

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Shane J Pearson
Vim, On 17/01/2007, at 7:57 AM, Vim Visual wrote: loosen up, I was just asking... You asked in a BSD mailing list, what people would think about having OpenBSD licensed under the GPL3. What were you expecting? Hugs? Shane J Pearson shanejp netspace net au

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Will Maier
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:44:54PM +0100, Vim Visual wrote: > btw are you using X? and if so, which wm? most of them are under > the gpl, right? this must hurt if you're such a bsd license > defender... Stop baiting the list. Also, not that it's related to anything, but there are a number of BSD

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Vim Visual
thanks for the links... loosen up, I was just asking... I am using openbsd and it's only that I've been thinking for a while about these issues... Reading the license doesn't help 100% in my case because English is not my mother tongue and I guess some important things may be hidden to *me* in th

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Vim Visual
I am a newcomer to this community but I have the "feeling" that I have put my finger on a... sensitive point in any case thanks for the answers, and for the mild biting, Marco, I think I have now an impression... btw are you using X? and if so, which wm? most of them are under the gpl, right? th

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread dereck
groklaw is a joke. Best to ignore them. Were it not for idiots at SCO the idiots at groklaw would've remained the obscure fanbois they are. Do you waste your time reading the effusions of fans of Britney Spears? How about Paris Hilton fans and their insightful blogs? Do you get your definition

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Greg Thomas
On 1/16/07, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, the article is somehow misleading... at this point I would like to ask another question here, in misc; namely... how do you feel/ what do you think of big companies making profit out of o'bsd or whatever bsd variant and not giving anything b

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll bite On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 09:12:27PM +0100, Vim Visual wrote: > yes, the article is somehow misleading... > > at this point I would like to ask another question here, in misc; > namely... how do you feel/ what do you think of big companies making > profit out of o'bsd or whatever bsd vari

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-16 21:25]: > how do you feel/ what do you think of big companies making > profit out of o'bsd or whatever bsd variant and not giving anything > back for that? Think of, for instance, the MacOSX case... Better they use our code then trying to write their ow

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Eric Furman
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:12:27 +0100, "Vim Visual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > yes, the article is somehow misleading... The article is complete garbage. mental masturbation. > > at this point I would like to ask another question here, in misc; > namely... how do you feel/ what do you think of big

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Crawford
On 1/16/07, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, the article is somehow misleading... at this point I would like to ask another question here, in misc; namely... how do you feel/ what do you think of big companies making profit out of o'bsd or whatever bsd variant and not giving anything b

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Vim Visual
yes, the article is somehow misleading... at this point I would like to ask another question here, in misc; namely... how do you feel/ what do you think of big companies making profit out of o'bsd or whatever bsd variant and not giving anything back for that? Think of, for instance, the MacOSX ca

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
I think they might have drunk too much kangaroo milk if you know what I mean. The license has been tested in court and has been interpreted. On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 11:21:52PM -0500, Jean-Daniel Beaubien wrote: > Groklaw has an article about some misconceptions of the BSD license > > http://www.

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-15 Thread Greg Thomas
On 1/15/07, Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:21:52 -0500 "Jean-Daniel Beaubien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Groklaw has an article about some misconceptions of the BSD license > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 > > I am curious what peop

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-15 Thread Travers Buda
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:21:52 -0500 "Jean-Daniel Beaubien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Groklaw has an article about some misconceptions of the BSD license > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 > > I am curious what people on this list (with the proper knowledge) > think

Re: Groklaw artical about the BSD license

2007-01-15 Thread Adriaan
On 1/16/07, Jean-Daniel Beaubien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Groklaw has an article about some misconceptions of the BSD license http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 I am curious what people on this list (with the proper knowledge) think about the correctnessof the article.