Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-08 Thread Stefan Johnson
> OpenBSD does not have any PAE support. > > The fact that some bits are in the source tree doesn't have much to do > with it. See it as hints for a developer who wants to pick up the PAE > work. But since most i386 machines with >4G are amd64-capable and this > not being something easy I don't see

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-08 Thread Henning Brauer
* Stefan Johnson [2011-12-07 20:53]: > I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for > information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. > I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I > see some old old old threads about > it working, not working,

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
it's not a case of setting options or a custom kernel, it involves writing code (rather delicate kernel code). on this particular hardware, you are basically either stuck with 4GB or running another OS. On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson wrote: > I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone t

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stefan Johnson
I want to thank everyone that replied. I have gone to google for information about openbsd, i386, pae, and similar. I see that there was a talk done back in 2006 or so about PAE on i386. I see some old old old threads about it working, not working, working again, not working again, breaking amd64

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:25:15PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 > Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: > > > Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which > > a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But > > not without t

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:45:56 -0200 Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: > Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which > a 32-bit processor can address more than 32-bit physical addresses. But > not without the OS supporting it. Wouldn't that make ROP attacks more difficult too? Tho

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 04:05:07PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports >4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. > > Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Modern x86 processors support PAE (Physical Address Extension) in which a 32-bit proc

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread David Riley
On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: >> Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports >4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. > > Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation? Yes and no; higher-end Intel 32-bit parts from the Pentium Pro upward supported Physical Address Ex

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
> Yes, exactly. OpenBSD supports >4GB RAM only on 64-bit architectures. Isn't that a limitation of Intel x32 rather than an OpenBSD limitation?

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-12-07, Stefan Johnson wrote: > Hello all. Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 > server. The system includes to memory boards for RAM. One board has 8 gigs, > and the other has 4. The power on self test sees 12 and initializes 12, > but after the server boots, Op

Re: RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-06 Thread Andres Perera
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Stefan Johnson wrote: > Hello all. B Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 > server. well, you should have searched for "openbsd and PAE" :) i don't think they're going to bother at this point, but don't take my word for it > The system i

RAM seen vs. RAM available HP ML 570 G2

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan Johnson
Hello all. Today I replaced OpenSuSE with OpenBSD 5.0 on my HP ML 570 G2 server. The system includes to memory boards for RAM. One board has 8 gigs, and the other has 4. The power on self test sees 12 and initializes 12, but after the server boots, OpenBSD appears to only see 4. I believe this r