Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2018-01-02 Thread Anton Lindqvist
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:19:18PM +0100, Anton Lindqvist wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:05:12PM -0700, bit shifter wrote: > > I have a Thinkpad X240 with the buttonless clickpad. On snapshot > > 6.2-current #311, the only soft buttons that function are the buttons > > at the top of the click

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-30 Thread Anton Lindqvist
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:05:12PM -0700, bit shifter wrote: > I have a Thinkpad X240 with the buttonless clickpad. On snapshot > 6.2-current #311, the only soft buttons that function are the buttons > at the top of the clickpad. The soft buttons at the bottom of the > clickpad all act as a left-

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-29 Thread bit shifter
I have a Thinkpad X240 with the buttonless clickpad. On snapshot 6.2-current #311, the only soft buttons that function are the buttons at the top of the clickpad. The soft buttons at the bottom of the clickpad all act as a left-click. Further, in wsconsctl, the mouse.type is "unknown_19". If I

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-26 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Hi Matthias, it's true that the new input driver has a comparatively high threshold before it starts scrolling. I think it's necessary. With synaptics it may happen too easily that two-finger contacts trigger scroll events accidentally. A somewhat sloppily performed two-finger tap may have that

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-23 Thread Matthias Schmidt
* Matthias Schmidt wrote: > Hi Ulf, > > * Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > > If you're following -current, or if you upgrade your system with the > > next or a future snapshot, please note that the default setup for > > touchpads in X will change. > > Finally, I found the time to switch from Synaptics to

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-23 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Hi Ulf, * Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > If you're following -current, or if you upgrade your system with the > next or a future snapshot, please note that the default setup for > touchpads in X will change. Finally, I found the time to switch from Synaptics to the ws driver. Running current from Dec 2

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-20 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
On 12/20/2017 04:54 PM, Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > Hello Ulf ! > >> there seems to be a terminology problem here: Usually, >> "pinch gesture" refers to an input with two touches moving >> toward each other, or away from each other, and it doesn't >> involve keyboard input. Our drivers don't s

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-20 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello Ulf ! > there seems to be a terminology problem here: Usually, > "pinch gesture" refers to an input with two touches moving > toward each other, or away from each other, and it doesn't > involve keyboard input. Our drivers don't support these > gestures. Many applications permit to zoom in

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-18 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Hi Christoph, there seems to be a terminology problem here: Usually, "pinch gesture" refers to an input with two touches moving toward each other, or away from each other, and it doesn't involve keyboard input. Our drivers don't support these gestures. Many applications permit to zoom in and ou

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-17 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello Ulf ! As promised, the information from a MacBook Pro using -current #289 Dec 17. Scrolling up, down, left, right, in a circle works. Tapping works only in the center and in the corners of the touchpad. I can't try pinch to zoom as Apple uses another keyboard layout. For example from a Germ

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-11 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
On 12/10/2017 09:10 PM, Lari Rasku wrote: > Ulf Brosziewski kirjoitti 12/06/17 klo 00:59: >> please consider giving ws a try, and help >> us by reporting problems if it doesn't work for you. > > ws(4) seems to have much higher limiting friction for me when two-finger > scrolling. In synaptics(4)

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-10 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello Ulf ! > I'm afraid you are out of luck with a Powerbook. ... No problem. Just good to know. > BTW, xorg configuration files in >/usr/X11R6/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ Yes, you are right, there was a /usr/X11R6/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-synaptics.conf (- instead of _). After removing the fi

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-10 Thread Lari Rasku
Ulf Brosziewski kirjoitti 12/06/17 klo 00:59: > please consider giving ws a try, and help > us by reporting problems if it doesn't work for you. ws(4) seems to have much higher limiting friction for me when two-finger scrolling. In synaptics(4), it was enough to just tilt my fingers to get the

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-10 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Hi Christoph, under the hood, things are a bit different than you might think. It's not the ws driver that is new or has changed, it's the fact it is used in X for all pointing devices now. The touchpad-specific input processing is done in the kernel, by a new component of wsmouse(4). I'm afraid

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-10 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
On 12/10/2017 01:34 AM, Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > Hello ! > > I tried the touchpad with -current #261 from Dec 8. But wsconsctl > still reports mouse.type=synaptics. Should that be ? > Hi Christoph, thanks for your report. The value of "mouse.type" doesn't refer to the X driver, it's a desc

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-10 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello Ulf ! Thanks for your answer. > I assume that your touchpad is actually running with ws, and that no > xorg ".conf" file - in /etc or in /usr/X11R6/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ - > overrides the default ;-) If that is the case, then "works-as-before" is a good result, Yes, I can confirm, that i

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-09 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
Hello ! I tried the touchpad with -current #261 from Dec 8. But wsconsctl still reports mouse.type=synaptics. Should that be ? If it is as it should be, the touchpad worked as before (but I had not much time to play around with it). IMHO the touchpad on this machine is sometimes a kind of sluggis

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-05 Thread Base Pr1me
Honestly, my issues are minimal in regards to the tap-to-click activating during typing. If I'm typing in bed or at a awkward angle exacerbates it, but it's not a huge issue. "Edge Zones" might be just the ticket. I always found the syndaemon a bit odd, anyway, and had to play with the timing to

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-05 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
Up to now, I have only vaguely considered that, and there are some other things pending. However, if many users will be missing that option, my priorities might change ;-) Would "edge areas" be an alternative for you? synaptics(4) has an option for defining edge zones. A touch that starts there

Re: New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-05 Thread Base Pr1me
Are there plans to have a solution to halt the touchpad when typing is occurring, similar to what syndaemon does? Otherwise, the driver works fine for me on ThinkPad T470s. On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Ulf Brosziewski wrote: > If you're following -current, or if you upgrade your system with t

New default setup for touchpads in X

2017-12-05 Thread Ulf Brosziewski
If you're following -current, or if you upgrade your system with the next or a future snapshot, please note that the default setup for touchpads in X will change. X will select ws(4) instead of synaptics(4) as default driver. In a configuration with ws, touchpad-specific input processing is done