Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I'm not acting as their representative on this mailing list. I'll send > you a couple of names privately, if you like, but I've been a patch > and bug and integrator for long enough with OpenSSH and with open > source and freeware projects in general that I think I've earned > better. You are ve

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> >> It does look like an open source result of some talented people, not >> >> an OpenBSD or BSD specific result. >> > >> > OpenSSH happened as a *direct result* of the types of decisi

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > >> It does look like an open source result of some talented people, not > >> an OpenBSD or BSD specific result. > > > > OpenSSH happened as a *direct result* of the types of decisions that > > OpenBSD developers make. > > Hi, Theo. That

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> It does look like an open source result of some talented people, not >> an OpenBSD or BSD specific result. > > OpenSSH happened as a *direct result* of the types of decisions that > OpenBSD developers make. Hi, Theo. That would be a compell

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It does look like an open source result of some talented people, not > an OpenBSD or BSD specific result. OpenSSH happened as a *direct result* of the types of decisions that OpenBSD developers make.

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia [nka...@gmail.com] wrote: >> >> Don't mistake OpenSSH for OpenBSD. The early history is fascinating. >> >> http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/ssh/ch01_05.htm >> >> (I was involved in very early SunOS ports

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Nico Kadel-Garcia [nka...@gmail.com] wrote: > > Don't mistake OpenSSH for OpenBSD. The early history is fascinating. > > http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/ssh/ch01_05.htm > > (I was involved in very early SunOS ports of ssh-1 and ssh-2, before > OpenSSH existed.) Most of the ea

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
Lennart is a funny, funny man, go check the avahi code to see how nice it is. " When working on Avahi I learned a lot about the complexities of safely and reliably running and maintaining system services, and about securing them as much as possible, which is particularly important for network fac

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:37:57PM +, Jona Joachim wrote: > On 2011-07-16, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > > Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more time. > > Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." > [nolog] > > This is nothing new, it has been anti

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Chris Cappuccio writes: > >> Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more >> time. Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." >> >> http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 > > It would

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2011-07-16, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more time. > Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." [nolog] This is nothing new, it has been anticipated by BSD developers a long time ago: http://talks.dixongroup.net/nyc

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:40:47 +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: >Chris Cappuccio writes: >> Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more >> time. Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." >> >> http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 >It would b

Re: Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-16 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Chris Cappuccio writes: > Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more > time. Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." > > http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 It would be almost tempting to ask if he uses ssh much and if so which one, but I

Laffs with Lennart

2011-07-15 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Lennart Poettering has graced the world with his brilliance one more time. Why? Lennart doesn't "think BSD is too relevant anymore." http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 Lennart is the brains behind highly relevant software such as "PulseAudio", widely known as the broken audio sys