Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-12-04 Thread Gilbert Fernandes
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:16:27AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Could you be slightly more specific? perhaps checking vulnerabilities reported compared to other products. see also how frequent the fixes are, since some bug fixes can also improve security (some bugs can be used as security hol

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-12-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:04:54AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Tom Bombadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-04 03:00]: > > > exim is an insecure piece of shit that makes old sendmail look good. > > > besides, it is not free. > > > > Curiosity here since we are exim users... what makes it insecu

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-12-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tom Bombadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-04 03:00]: > > exim is an insecure piece of shit that makes old sendmail look good. > > besides, it is not free. > > Curiosity here since we are exim users... what makes it insecure? rotten design and bad implementation, to begin with? > Should we be

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Bombadil
> exim is an insecure piece of shit that makes old sendmail look good. > besides, it is not free. Curiosity here since we are exim users... what makes it insecure? Should we be really worried about running it? Cheers, g.

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Lars Hansson
On Nov 30, 2007 6:16 PM, Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just before it was in public domain: > Did someone asked the author if it was accepted to put a BSD-like > license on it? He allowed us to share and modify the software but had no > official document about is (a license). I think

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 11:16:37AM +0100, Pieter Verberne wrote: >On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:15:34AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2007/11/30 10:41, Lars Noodin wrote: >> > qmail >> never had a license - now it's in the public domain it's allowed >> to distribute it, but I don't like t

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 11:26:47AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: >sendmail is the only one of them beeing BSD-licensed. Sendmail *used* to be BSD-licensed. There *is* a reason it got moved to .../gnu/... in the source tree even if its current license isn't exactly gpl. But its current license

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:15:34AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/11/30 10:41, Lars Noodin wrote: > > qmail > > never had a license - now it's in the public domain it's allowed > to distribute it, but I don't like to imagine what misc@ would look > like after the following release if it

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Henning Brauer
* Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-30 10:07]: > Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > > > ... I just wanted to point out that D.J. Bernstein has > > put qmail in public domain. ... > > I'm curious about why sendmail was chosen to be in the default setup > over Postfix, Exim or qmail. These all ha

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Frans Haarman
On Nov 30, 2007 9:38 AM, Matthew Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Ugh, I wish I had noticed this message a few minutes earlier.) > > On 11/29/07, Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wanted to point out that D.J. Bernstein has put qmail in public > > domain. I'm not implying

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/30 10:41, Lars Noodin wrote: > Postfix, the license isn't good for base > Exim the license isn't good for base > qmail never had a license - now it's in the public domain it's allowed to distribute it, but I don't like to imagine what misc@ would look like after the following releas

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Han Boetes
The most logical step to me seems to be readding qmail and other DJB tools to ports. # Han

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/30 01:56, Tobias Weisserth wrote: > sendmail (GNU GPL) Despite being in /usr/src/gnu, Sendmail is not GPL. > qmail's security record is better and many OpenBSD users prefer it > to sendmail. And many don't. Maybe it's time to put it back into ports, though.

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Dempsky
(Ugh, I wish I had noticed this message a few minutes earlier.) On 11/29/07, Tobias Weisserth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just wanted to point out that D.J. Bernstein has put qmail in public > domain. I'm not implying anything but wouldn't it be a perfect opportunity > to get rid of sendmail (G

Re: Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Lars Noodén
Tobias Weisserth wrote: > > ... I just wanted to point out that D.J. Bernstein has > put qmail in public domain. ... I'm curious about why sendmail was chosen to be in the default setup over Postfix, Exim or qmail. These all have improved a lot and it may be time for a re-evaluation. -Lars

Bernstein puts qmail in public domain

2007-11-30 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi everybody, I just wanted to point out that D.J. Bernstein has put qmail in public domain. I'm not implying anything but wouldn't it be a perfect opportunity to get rid of sendmail (GNU GPL) and have qmail as the standard MTA in OpenBSD? qmail's security record is better and many OpenBSD users p