On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:24:57PM -0400, Gerald Thornberry wrote:
> you'll often hear that OpenBSD exists at the pleasure of its
> developers, not the users. Absolutely. They put in the time and
> effort. They would do so, presumably, if we users did not exist.
Maybe. But - forgive me for bei
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:17:23PM +0100, Wim Wauters wrote:
> I think you underestimate the importance of this "misc" mailing lists,
> this is not the place to demonstrate a lack of understanding of what
> OpenBSD is about
> or that you haven't read anything about the OpenBSD release system :-)
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 02:59:55PM +0100, Wim Wauters wrote:
> Everything the OpenBSD project has been carefully thought through, so
> asking silly questions - especially ones based on the latest fashionable
> feature added to other, more convoluted, operating systems - will get
> RTFM replies
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:34:29AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
> Contrarily to what you might think, this email is NOT an exhaustive
> description of things as they are. It's a very quick, oversimplified summary,
> of a taxing process and decisions. There are glaring mistakes, for the sake
> of simp
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:10:39PM -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote:
> The developers do this the way they want to.
> They accomplish a lot with extremely limited resources.
Yes, I appreciate the hard work of the devs.
> You and I do not even get to have an opinion.
Of course, you have right to not
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mes and so on?
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t want to offence anyone.
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y that "latest").
Above are my rather theoretical thoughts... not sure, just asking.
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ught, that's the mailing lists are for.
Maybe I'm wrong.
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enient for both devs and users?
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nt" is recognized by apmd. Perhaps there's a way to
change its action - I mean: instead of trying to "enter requested state"
(whatever it is), just to execute /etc/apm/powerdown ?
OpenBSD 4.2 i386
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Maybe someone will find it useful:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/audio/partners/partners_envy24.jsp
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dio quality issue however. [..]"
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24bit/96kHz DAC and ADC;
* CS8427 digital transceiver;
Also: http://www25.big.jp/~jam/audiocard/audiophile/
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heart
of the card is the Envy24 HT-S Chipset" - with a photo on the side. A photo
of... ENVY 24PT. Immediately below - image of ENVY 24HT-S. :-O
What a pity; the card has quite good reviews. OK, must look further...
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ttp://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/654
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7;ll have to make a comparison with Audigy soon... ;) as I can
see, there are even (semi?)professional cards built using Envy; like f.e.
this one: http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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#x27;t support
> the HT version though.
Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the available
capabilities? The "VIA opening" won't be of any help in this particular case?
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would be something using VIA Envy24(HT) -
which is reportedly better than Audigy(2)? Time to swap?
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NetBSD haven't any prelink/prebind feature now.
So what exactly is making firefox's startup time under NetBSD much shorter?
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ly "it's just the way it
is", and one has to live with that.
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rrors. I'm afraid, one has to wait a little(?) for something a'la
NetBSD's RelCache.
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che (aka ELF prebinding), f.e.
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-userlevel/2002/12/04/0017.html
You mean, exactly this is making a difference?
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ifference, isn't it?
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Thanks to Andreas' help: I forgot, that I had C_INCLUDE_PATH "manually" set
before... yes, when it doesn't interfere, all compiles OK.
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0/gtk/gtkentry.h:151: error: syntax error before
"gtk_entry_get_invisible_char"
In file included from /usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:106,
from base.c:1:
/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkimcontextsimple.h:49: error: syntax error
before "gunichar"
In file included from /usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:118,
from base.c:1:
/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkmain.h:99: error: syntax error before
"GOptionEntry"
/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkmain.h:103: error: syntax error before '*'
token
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oundcards and soundcard-drivers, and then to make a try to activate that
second output.
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lly want to extend emu(4), your best bet is to do more
> back-porting from there.
Perhaps the only option for today, as I see...
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se.
You mean: presently one can't rely on the drivers from 4Front Technologies?
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nd needs the agreement of the party to be
published. Especially such emotional one.
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er will forward _your_ private
correspondence to the public.
If you don't like your opponents attitude - just stop talking to him, and
it's enough.
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ht argue that those ports are broken,
> but I'd guess there are quite a lot of them.
"Hardcoded"? So, changing LOCALBASE could be even dangerous, I'm afraid.
Nothing can I do then with this.
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s all.
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ral _public_ answers to _quite private_ letters. Is it
something specific to this list? Didn't see something like this before.
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t quite proper way?
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote:
> If - for example (just example!) - one
> doesn't even has to remember, that at the "./configure" stage there wasn't
> any need to switch to another directory-tree.
&qu
o, if you can compile a source package, building a basic port
> should be doable. and from there, documenting dependency info is
> probably useful anyway, right?
Yes, reading now the "porting" docs...
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(or not) by you.
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...and I agree with the above.
OK, no flamewar - that'll be all from my side - I can live with current
setting. But it doesn't mean, that I'm unable to see, that it _can_ be
solved a little bit better.
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laying with "./configure"
switches - they could be busy... porting software to OpenBSD, for example.
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;s default for all source packages since years. So, why not
to install all the ported software into something like /usr/pkg, or
/usr/ported, for example?
It does work in NetBSD - it could work exactly as good in OpenBSD.
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;t need any funding to fix this.
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hat you want, other times it doesn't.
Are they willing to take a suggestions from the users side?
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as of yet).
Exactly the same issue I had earlier, trying SQLite 3.4.2 with TCL/Tk 8.5.0.
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ones needed...) - but it had, in practice, less power
than Pentium II 400. Which is fanless as well.
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th DVI capable of doing
> 1920x1200?
...and why exactly PCI?
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ron 700 (a little less, but not that much).
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can see at least one: I *had* to make some tests, I was in contact with
the list admin - but you don't have to show off here, with your "poetry".
Seems, you want to.
That's the second - and last - explaining from my side. I want to add,
that such (over)reaction of several p
ren't the case. It seems, that
all is fully functional now.
Sorry for all inconvenience.
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stalled. Wouldn't be reasonable to create new hierarchy,
especially for the "native" OpenBSD software (from binary packages and
ports) - I mean: something like /usr/pkg in NetBSD? What do you think?
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Testing: still problems...
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t a
question, but an example of workaround "how to obtain the proper results"
rather.
But perhaps someone does know answer to previous two?
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be reasonable to create new hierarchy,
especially for the "native" OpenBSD software (from binary packages and
ports) - I mean something like /usr/pkg in NetBSD? What do you think?
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It's just a test.
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Just testing; sorry for inconvenience.
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