You know, I guess it's just personal convention from habit. I think I started
doing that way back before I could remember how the redirects work without
looking them up. Too lazy to change now.
So yeah, if you're trying to divine something clever from that, I wouldn't.
:-)
Sent from mobil
> From: ropers
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>
> $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> or do you normally do something else that I'
I was just thinking fvwm users were all into custom fvwm configs
and I was missing out :) Im glad im not the only one who uses xterm as an
application launcher in fvwm
when using fvwm and using xterm to launch apps I found the responsiveness
of the GUI insanely fast...
It feels strange starting
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but no matter what I use for a window manager, I start all
programs from the cli. All.
For Firefox or Chrome something like this:
$ firefox & bw ; exit
bw is a shortcut to an xterm with a bunch of options. Kill the one with the
console crap and poop out a fresh one.
Ori
This is presumably already fixed by "Sync after libc++ bump", but in case
somebody else hits it...
The amd64 snapshot with this signature:
RWSZaRmt1LEQT+LPpgKcdukqjs3m1yYLE+J4zXB8YQ/iylbA3a/1IW31M6W9qKI+yIOxrbWghPno0HTSgbBfDyBZGwHWggiJBw4=
... produces these errors upon reboot into the newly inst
Hi all,
I use dmenu on Void Linux but from what I understand, it works the same
on OpenBSD.
Suckless Tools' dmenu is what I use to launch graphical applications.
Here's how I run dmenu for this purpose:
dmenu_run -i -l 32 -fn "7x14" -nf yellow -nb black -sf black -sb white
The -i means case i
On 08/05/2019, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200
> ropers wrote:
>
>> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>>
>> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
>> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>>
On 5/7/19 8:32 AM, Dumitru Moldovan wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:05:11PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Consus wrote on Fri, May 03, 2019 at 02:24:10PM +0300:
>>
>>> Maybe it's a good idea to note this on the upgrade page? Something like
>>> "the upgrade procedure may leave some file
Clark Block wrote:
> What is OpenBSD developers's opinion about the private messages that I
> quoted above?
I'm not an OpenBSD developer and I can't speak to their opinions but the
dynamic in this thread resembles the one discussed in this excellent talk [1]
by Evan Czaplicki, the creator of Elm.
*plonk*
Everybody, please just stop feeding the "Clark Block" troll.
Clark Block wrote on Tue, May 07, 2019 at 08:19:56PM -0300:
[more junk deleted]
On 5/7/19 4:23 PM, ropers wrote:
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else
I received the following private messages about a user-friendly and
easy-to-use variant of OpenBSD:
Clark,
great e-mail!
As you have noticed, the OpenBSD devs and even advocates tend to be quite
hostile towards ideas and viewpoints that don't fit their world.
I have had similar thoughts and re
On 5/7/19 5:23 PM, ropers wrote:
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else
On 2019-05-07, Jordan Geoghegan wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I have an old Edgerouter Lite I set up last year that I've forgotten the
> passwords for.
>
> I know you can boot single user mode on amd64 by typing "boot -s" at the
> bootloader prompt, but that does not seem to exist on octeon.
>
> Any he
Hi,
ropers wrote on Wed, May 08, 2019 at 12:23:09AM +0200:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Yes, i don't use any other window manager.
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this in
You can copy the system.fvwm2rc to /home/.fvwm and edit the root menu to
launch your apps.
But barring that, I just use firefox & in a terminal
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:34 PM ropers wrote:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish ques
On Wed, 8 May 2019 00:23:09 +0200
ropers wrote:
> Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
>
> Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
> graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
>
> $ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
>
> or do
Tangentially related: Does anyone here routinely use the default fvwm?
Now for a really noobish question: Those that do, do you also launch
graphical apps by typing something like this in xterm:
$ firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
or do you normally do something else that I've totally overlooked?
(Aga
On May 7, 2019 3:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
>
> > I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> > everywhere.
>
> Just the man I want to talk to.
>
> Do you have dmenu running on OpenBSD? Did you need to make adjus
works like a sharm
On Tue, 7 May 2019, 6:14 pm Sean Howard I compiled dwm and dmenu directly and then just wrote an xinitrc, no
> adjustments necessary to be functional
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 16:42 Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> > Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
> >
> >
>
I compiled dwm and dmenu directly and then just wrote an xinitrc, no
adjustments necessary to be functional
On Tue, May 7, 2019, 16:42 Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
> Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
>
>
> > I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> > everywh
On Tue, 07 May 2019 14:47:15 -0500
Edgar Pettijohn wrote:
> I use dwm on everything so my desktop experience is the same
> everywhere.
Just the man I want to talk to.
Do you have dmenu running on OpenBSD? Did you need to make adjustments
for ksh instead of sh or any other property of OpenBSD?
On May 7, 2019 2:29 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 May 2019 14:45:34 -0300
> Clark Block wrote:
>
> > Was developed the Isotop:
> >
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
> >
> > https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
> >
> > The Isotop is re
On Tue, 7 May 2019 14:45:34 -0300
Clark Block wrote:
> Was developed the Isotop:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
>
> https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
>
> The Isotop is really a user-friendly and easy-to-use
> variant of OpenBSD or is f
On Tue, 7 May 2019 19:02:57 +
Kent Watsen wrote:
> Probably not what the OP is looking for, but `tmux` is my current
> "window manager" of choice ;)
Along those lines I find i3 is the perfect wm companion to tmux :)
/jl
Probably not what the OP is looking for, but `tmux` is my current "window
manager" of choice ;)
K.
> On May 7, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 02:01:34AM -0300, Clark Block wrote:
>
>> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. Howe
Kent Watsen wrote:
> But when using sysctl(8) or /etc/sysctl.conf, a couple variables need an
> extra 'm':
>
> semni --> semmni
> semnu --> semmnu
>
> Is this intentional?
The extra letters are intentional. I've fixed the man page. Thanks.
`man 2 sysctl` shows:
KERN_SEMINFO_SEMMNI (kern.seminfo.semni)
The maximum number of semaphore identifiers allowed.
KERN_SEMINFO_SEMMNU (kern.seminfo.semnu)
The maximum number of semaphore undo structures allowed
in the system.
But when using sysctl(8) or /etc
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 02:01:34AM -0300, Clark Block wrote:
> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. However,
> the new "OS108" is seeking to improve this with a NetBSD operating system
> paired with the MATE desktop environment.
> So, OS108, a derivative of NetBSD, has
On Tue, 7 May 2019 10:14:33 +, John Long wrote:
> On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:47:18 +0200
> Denis Fondras wrote:
>
>> > user-friendly and easy-to-use
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like the exact description of current OpenBSD...
>
> +100
>
> This is exactly why I like and use it.
+1
Frank
--
OpenBSD
Was developed the Isotop:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/8of042/isotop_french_desktoporiented_openbsd_distro/
https://3hg.fr/Isos/isotop/
The Isotop is really a user-friendly and easy-to-use
variant of OpenBSD or is foolish?
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 09:19:05AM -0700, Jordan Geoghegan wrote:
> I have an old Edgerouter Lite I set up last year that I've forgotten the
> passwords for.
You can reset the passwords by using bsd.rd. Run the upgrader until
it has mounted the filesystems and asks "Location of sets?"
Type ! and p
Awesome wm no more words needed
On May 7, 2019 7:01:34 AM GMT+02:00, Clark Block wrote:
>In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD.
>However,
>the new "OS108" is seeking to improve this with a NetBSD operating
>system
>paired with the MATE desktop environment.
>So, OS108, a
I'll respond directly here as I recognize you from another mailing
list we both are on :-)
This is *my* desktop of choice on OpenBSD:
https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/OpenBSDBuild/
Why mess with something less tried or true?
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:19 AM Christopher Turkel
wrote:
>
>
Hello,
On BeagleBone Black. I can play with digital gpios without issue.
On an I2C bus, i connected 1 DS1621, 1 DS1631, 1 arduino and 1 BBB with 2
pull up resistors (2x 4.7 Kohms)
>From the arduino, via an I2C scanner, OK, we can see 2 different addresses:
DS1621 = 0x48
DS1631 = 0x49
>From th
Hi folks,
I have an old Edgerouter Lite I set up last year that I've forgotten the
passwords for.
I know you can boot single user mode on amd64 by typing "boot -s" at the
bootloader prompt, but that does not seem to exist on octeon.
Any help you guys can provide getting my octeon into singl
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:00 PM Ted Unangst wrote:
> oh nice. I'm glad this is at least possible with some effort.
I should note that one limitation of the device is that it will only
sign ~2k of data for ed25519, due to the collision-proof hashing
scheme that requires buffering. Something like ed
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 03:34:03PM +, plainball wrote:
> Seems to work rather good, on Linux - configs might need an adjustment or 2:
> any chances currently for bluetooth coming back to openbsd?
Last I knew, Bluetooth drivers lacked a maintainer, i.e. someone willing
to put up with the byzan
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 10:06:19AM -0400, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> When I use
> any other OS I am always amazed how complicated they are.
This statement encapsulates why I like OpenBSD the best. I'm 40 and I've
got a five-year-old at home. When I need to use the computer, I'm
looking to get stu
Seems to work rather good, on Linux - configs might need an adjustment or 2:
any chances currently for bluetooth coming back to openbsd?
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:52 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:5
On 5/7/19 11:11 AM, Jan Stary wrote:
>> That said, one of the things that NetBSD and OpenBSD have in common is
>> that they support quite a number of platforms, some of which were not
>> back in the day designed for graphics-heavy desktop use.
> And even there, everything works just fine:
> https:
Hi Dumitru,
Dumitru Moldovan wrote on Tue, May 07, 2019 at 05:33:20PM +0300:
> On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:05:11PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>> Consus wrote on Fri, May 03, 2019 at 02:24:10PM +0300:
>>> Maybe it's a good idea to note this on the upgrade page? Something like
>>> "the upgrade proc
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:05:11PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
Hi,
Consus wrote on Fri, May 03, 2019 at 02:24:10PM +0300:
Maybe it's a good idea to note this on the upgrade page? Something like
"the upgrade procedure may leave some files behing; you can manually
clean them up using sysclean pa
Trying to replicate same setup with pairs and different rdomains for each tun
and also external interface, after a packet goes through pair interfaces
it's just disapears.
Any ideas?
routing in rdomain is set like:
route -T add default tun
route -T add
--
Sent from: http://openbsd-arc
I use OpenBSD as my daily driver as my desktop OS. It really is the easiest
OS I've ever used because of the wealth of documentation, everything is in
the man pages, with examples, plus so many resources on the web. When I use
any other OS I am always amazed how complicated they are.
On Tue, May 7
Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> I'm using signify(1) for update signatures in the upcoming WireGuard for
> Windows (there'll be OpenBSD news soon in that department, I hope!). Not
> wanting to store keys on my laptop or something, I managed to get a YubiHSM
> to produce valid signify(1) signatures. I t
On 5/7/19 8:41 AM, Clark Block wrote:
Great desktop experience for OpenBSD is a user-friendly and easy-to-use
variant of OpenBSD!
Oh, and I've had a hope that you will be talking about OpenBSD
scheduler, POSIX threading implementation and what to do with it to make
it "great desktop experienc
On May 07 09:03:06, pe...@bsdly.net wrote:
> On 5/7/19 7:01 AM, Clark Block wrote:
> > In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. However,
>
> As others have noted, what constitutes "a great desktop experience" is a
> highly subjective matter. One person's great desktop expe
Hey folks,
I'm using signify(1) for update signatures in the upcoming WireGuard for
Windows (there'll be OpenBSD news soon in that department, I hope!). Not
wanting to store keys on my laptop or something, I managed to get a YubiHSM
to produce valid signify(1) signatures. I thought I should docume
This is a webpage I used to install Xfce.
https://sohcahtoa.org.uk/openbsd.html
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:22 AM John Long wrote:
> On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:47:18 +0200
> Denis Fondras wrote:
>
> > > user-friendly and easy-to-use
> > >
> >
> > Sounds like the exact description of current OpenBSD...
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:55:24AM +, tfrohw...@fastmail.com wrote:
On May 6, 2019 8:55:41 PM UTC, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Hi all
Has anyone actually tried to use that controller on a fresh or older
OpenBSD? If yes: successful?
[ .. ]
Sorry, wireless won't work without a Bluetooth i
On Tue, 7 May 2019 08:47:18 +0200
Denis Fondras wrote:
> > user-friendly and easy-to-use
> >
>
> Sounds like the exact description of current OpenBSD...
+100
This is exactly why I like and use it.
I've got some more info on this.
tried to run X with tiling wms: spectrwm (my main wm), dwm, i3 - all
hang absolutely the same way. (see my last mail with X backtraced)
then I've tried fvwm - works
cwm - works
kde & gnome - both work flawlessly.
i.e. there is some trouble in the newest vers
Hi,
I have a Supermicro A1SRM-LN7F/LN5F, which has a lot of the same hardware as
the board you are interested in.
For IPMI I did a:
config -e -o bsd.new /bsd
enable ipmi
I run vmd (virtual machines) without problems.
Doing 6 port (+1 port for admin) routing+pf+nat, mail server, sip server,
htt
On 5/7/19 7:01 AM, Clark Block wrote:
> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD. However,
As others have noted, what constitutes "a great desktop experience" is a
highly subjective matter. One person's great desktop experience could
very well be another's living hell of b
On Tue, 7 May 2019 02:01:34 -0300
Clark Block wrote:
> In 2019 still there is not a great desktop experience for NetBSD.
> However, the new "OS108" is seeking to improve this with a NetBSD
> operating system paired with the MATE desktop environment.
> So, OS108, a derivative of NetBSD, has just b
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