Re: GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64

2013-10-09 Thread Richard Toohey
On 10/10/13 18:13, obsd, cgi wrote: Hi! "External tutorial for 4.8 vs. official documentation for 5.3. This leads to the nonsense you've done to your 5.3 system below." -->> I went to openbsd.org, typed GNOME in the search form: - the first hit was a PDF from 2007 - all the remaining were rega

Re: GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64

2013-10-09 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
"obsd, cgi" writes: > Hi! > > "External tutorial for 4.8 vs. official documentation for 5.3. > This leads to the nonsense you've done to your 5.3 system below." > > -->> > > I went to openbsd.org, typed GNOME in the search form: > - the first hit was a PDF from 2007 > - all the remaining were reg

Re: GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64

2013-10-09 Thread obsd, cgi
Hi! "External tutorial for 4.8 vs. official documentation for 5.3. This leads to the nonsense you've done to your 5.3 system below." -->> I went to openbsd.org, typed GNOME in the search form: - the first hit was a PDF from 2007 - all the remaining were regarding packages What now? Can you plea

Re: why icmp timestamping is enabled by default ?

2013-10-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > it turned out that OpenBSD allows icmp timestamping by default: > > > > net.inet.icmp.tstamprepl=1 > > > > what was that done for ? > > well, why not? > > if you have some program vulnerable to a "the attacker knows the time" > attack, i don't think turning off icmp timestamps will save you

Re: why icmp timestamping is enabled by default ?

2013-10-09 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:21, Илья Шипицин wrote: > it turned out that OpenBSD allows icmp timestamping by default: > > net.inet.icmp.tstamprepl=1 > > what was that done for ? well, why not? if you have some program vulnerable to a "the attacker knows the time" attack, i don't think turning o

why icmp timestamping is enabled by default ?

2013-10-09 Thread Илья Шипицин
Hello! it turned out that OpenBSD allows icmp timestamping by default: net.inet.icmp.tstamprepl=1 what was that done for ? Cheers, Ilya Shipitsin

No console output on 5.4-Current

2013-10-09 Thread Bryan Chapman
Just installed the Oct 3rd snapshot on my desktop. During the boot process it loses console output and just shows a blank screen. The screen doesn't go into power saving - just no output. At first I though the machine froze, but it continued running and I was able to SSH into the machine. Here

Re: Help vote for OpenBSD

2013-10-09 Thread opendaddy
Keep them coming guys! Couple hundred more and OpenBSD will top the list: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/filters/top Would be great PR for OpenBSD too. On 9. oktober 2013 at 9:45 PM, "Stuart Henderson" wrote: > > On 2013-10-09, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > >>

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread opendaddy
On 9. oktober 2013 at 7:06 PM, "Dorian H." wrote: > >I've got a few OpenBSD boxes running at TransIP, very satisfied >about it. QEMU/KVM based, and they recently added a new feature, 'private >networks' between two or more VPS's. > >It might not explicitly have the label 'cloud' attached to it, b

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Nicholas Marriott
No, if being static was enough you wouldn't need to copy /sbin/reboot. Static binaries only help when library ABIs change, not the kernel syscall ABI. The kernel ABI has changed. By unpacking base*.tgz you have replaced the binaries in /sbin with copies that expect a new kernel, but you are still

growfs - thanks!

2013-10-09 Thread Craig R. Skinner
Thanks for growfs - phew me@small-host$ sudo umount /var/growing-app operator@larger-host$ ssh small-host dump -0anu -f - -h 0 /dev/rwd1f | dd of=small-host_var_growing-app.dump operator@larger-host$ chflags nodump small-host_var_growing-app.dump operator@larger-host$ restore -if small-host_

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Jeff Ross
Ah, sure that makes perfect sense. I'll have to gather up someone to run the power button on the other servers that need upgrading. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone, Reluctantly hunting and pecking on a virtual keyboard :-) > On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Paul de Weerd wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:56:49PM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: | Speaking of failing internet...using my phone... | | All of the programs at the end of my script are static binaries, | either in /bin or /usr/sbin, so they should work, right? Yet nothing | ran, ls and cat both failed with the bad sys

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Jeff Ross
Speaking of failing internet...using my phone... All of the programs at the end of my script are static binaries, either in /bin or /usr/sbin, so they should work, right? Yet nothing ran, ls and cat both failed with the bad system call error. I only have one version of my script. It doesn't

Re: Help vote for OpenBSD

2013-10-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-10-09, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZLCahai4Q) in existance No it isn't.

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Nicholas Marriott
So long as tmux is running and attached it is already in memory and replacing the binary on disk should have no effect. Also ksh is still ksh even if it's inside tmux. tmux is not a shell. Once your script is going then whether you are running it inside tmux or not should make no difference. Assum

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Jeff Ross
On 10/9/13 1:29 PM, Nick Holland wrote: On 10/09/2013 02:43 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I've got to upgrade some remote machines that I only have access via ssh. I've been using a script based on the "Upgrade without install kernel" for years. I modified it slightly for this upgrade by adding

Re: GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64

2013-10-09 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
"obsd, cgi" writes: > I tried to install GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64 for Desktop use (on > VirtualBox), see the howto below. > > But after the howto, reboot, startx with a normal user: > https://i.imgur.com/MaT8lcW.png > > Xorg.0.log > https://pastee.org/p8ppa > > # original: > http://www.gabsoftw

GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64

2013-10-09 Thread obsd, cgi
I tried to install GNOME on OpenBSD 5.3 amd64 for Desktop use (on VirtualBox), see the howto below. But after the howto, reboot, startx with a normal user: https://i.imgur.com/MaT8lcW.png Xorg.0.log https://pastee.org/p8ppa # original: http://www.gabsoftware.com/tips/tutorial-install-gnome-deskt

Re: Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/09/2013 02:43 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I've got to upgrade some remote machines that I only have access via ssh. I've been using a script based on the "Upgrade without install kernel" for years. I modified it slightly for this upgrade by adding /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd to

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Dorian H.
I've got a few OpenBSD boxes running at TransIP, very satisfied about it. QEMU/KVM based, and they recently added a new feature, 'private networks' between two or more VPS's. It might not explicitly have the label 'cloud' attached to it, but still very nice; and quite cheap as well. On Wed, Oct

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Stephen Drake
On 10/09/13 03:16, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? RootBSD are quite good, I have been using them for a few years now with zero downtime. A bit more pricey compaired to Digital Ocean, but they are solid and support new releases rather q

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:31:02PM -0400, Jiri B wrote: > What about Joyent? They "ported" KVM from Linux to "Solaris" > and they run it under zones. I would trust more Solaris based > solution they some hackish Linux setups where every VM runs under > root :) I personally use SmartOS and while it

Upgrading by installing post time_t snapshot

2013-10-09 Thread Jeff Ross
I've got to upgrade some remote machines that I only have access via ssh. I've been using a script based on the "Upgrade without install kernel" for years. I modified it slightly for this upgrade by adding /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd to /etc/rc.local so the password databases c

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:16:54AM +, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? > > Digital Ocean looks nice but they don't yet offer OpenBSD > (https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-supp

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread William Light
cloudsigma does qemu/KVM cloud hosting. i've spun up openbsd VMs there. too pricey for my needs, but maybe it'll work out for you. http://www.cloudsigma.com/ -w On Wed, 9 Oct 2013, at 17:29, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Beto > wrote: > > Hi, arpnetworks is ot

Re: Looking for good, small, canadian version laptop suggestions

2013-10-09 Thread g.lister
- Original message - From Tomas Bodzar Sent Wed Oct 9 2013 11:29:07 AM CEST To g.lis...@nodeunit.com Subject Re: Looking for good, small, canadian version laptop suggestions On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, g.lister wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am looking for some suggestions for a goo

Re: My VPS is acting slow (KVM)

2013-10-09 Thread opendaddy
On 6. oktober 2013 at 1:15 PM, "Manolis Tzanidakis" wrote: > >First, upgrade to STABLE to avoid potential kernel panics. Check >patch 007 in http://openbsd.org/errata53.html for more info. M:Tier >offers pre-built patches and packages, if you want to avoid compiling. >Check https://stable.mtie

Re: setgid problem

2013-10-09 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:47:36PM +0200, Bambero wrote: > Thanks fo the answer. > > But, another example: > > #!/usr/local/bin/php-5.2 -q > > //set group ID to operator > posix_setgid(5); > posix_setegid(5); > > //set user ID to nobody > posix_setuid($_uid); > > echo 'get

Re: setgid problem

2013-10-09 Thread Bambero
Thanks fo the answer. But, another example: #!/usr/local/bin/php-5.2 -q //set group ID to operator posix_setgid(5); posix_setegid(5); //set user ID to nobody posix_setuid($_uid); echo 'getuid: ' . posix_getuid() . "\n"; echo 'getgid: ' . posix_getgid() . "\n"; echo 'getegid

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid H.
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Beto wrote: > Hi, arpnetworks is other option. > arpnetwork is simple VM, no cloud. I think no support for OpenBSD cloud at this time Regards > > 2013/10/8 > >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? >> >> Digital Ocean looks n

Re: altq on multiple interfaces

2013-10-09 Thread Andy
On Wed 09 Oct 2013 13:53:06 BST, Andy wrote: On Wed 09 Oct 2013 12:29:48 BST, Leonardo Lombardo wrote: Thanks for your reply Andy. What if I have: - multiple VLANs on an internal IF Just have a different set of queues for each 'on vlanX' etc. - have a limited bandwidth on external (say 10/

Re: Delay starting OpenOSPFd and OpenBGPd

2013-10-09 Thread Andy
Hi Theo, Agreed, I guess I'm really just concerned about CARP and PF and not wanting to direct packets to the firewall before its ready. But I guess this should be fine and I'm just worrying.. Because I cannot get the carp backup to announce routes with a higher cost I'm struggling to come u

Re: setgid problem

2013-10-09 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 04:26:20PM +0200, Bambero wrote: > Hello > > I have a small php script which creates a file: > > > #!/usr/local/bin/php-5.2 -q > > //set group ID to operator > posix_setgid(5); > posix_setegid(5); > > //set user ID to nobody > posix_setuid($_uid); >

setgid problem

2013-10-09 Thread Bambero
Hello I have a small php script which creates a file: #!/usr/local/bin/php-5.2 -q //set group ID to operator posix_setgid(5); posix_setegid(5); //set user ID to nobody posix_setuid($_uid); // create file touch('/tmp/permtest'); echo 'getuid: ' . posix_getuid() . "\n"; ech

Re: Delay starting OpenOSPFd and OpenBGPd

2013-10-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It seems that OSPF starts quite early in the boot process before other > things have finished booting. > > Is their a way to delay the start so that it only starts announcing once > all the start up scripts have run etc? That would be wrong. I can figure out why you want it. The starting of

Delay starting OpenOSPFd and OpenBGPd

2013-10-09 Thread Andy
Hi, It seems that OSPF starts quite early in the boot process before other things have finished booting. Is their a way to delay the start so that it only starts announcing once all the start up scripts have run etc? Cheers, Andy.

Re: Help vote for OpenBSD

2013-10-09 Thread opendaddy
* existence On 9. oktober 2013 at 2:09 PM, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > >Hi, > >Could you guys help me vote for OpenBSD at Digital Ocean? > >https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital- >ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- > >Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider

Help vote for OpenBSD

2013-10-09 Thread opendaddy
Hi, Could you guys help me vote for OpenBSD at Digital Ocean? https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- Basically it's the only SSD cloud hosting provider (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZLCahai4Q) in existance and if the response is

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-09 Thread Beto
Hi, arpnetworks is other option. 2013/10/8 > Hi, > > Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? > > Digital Ocean looks nice but they don't yet offer OpenBSD ( > https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- > ). > > There'

Re: altq on multiple interfaces

2013-10-09 Thread Andy
On Wed 09 Oct 2013 12:29:48 BST, Leonardo Lombardo wrote: Thanks for your reply Andy. What if I have: - multiple VLANs on an internal IF Just have a different set of queues for each 'on vlanX' etc. - have a limited bandwidth on external (say 10/10Mbit/s) Do as was suggested, have a smalle

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Hessler
Please stop -- There are people so addicted to exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without lying. -- Josh Billings

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
John Long writes: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:41:07PM +0100, sbienddr...@googlemail.com wrote: >> Am I being monitored for receiving these emails? > > No, you're being monitored for using google, stupid. Please follow Peter's advice: >On 10/09/13 12:18, Peter Hessler wrote: >> This has gotten

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread John Long
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:41:07PM +0100, sbienddr...@googlemail.com wrote: > Am I being monitored for receiving these emails? No, you're being monitored for using google, stupid. Did anybody consider the possibility Theo didn't start this thread? The email headers looked ok at a quick glance but

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread sbienddr...@googlemail.com
Am I being monitored for receiving these emails? On 10/09/13 12:18, Peter Hessler wrote: This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end here?

Re: altq on multiple interfaces

2013-10-09 Thread Leonardo Lombardo
Thanks for your reply Andy. What if I have: - multiple VLANs on an internal IF - have a limited bandwidth on external (say 10/10Mbit/s) and I want to share the external bandwidth among all VLANs giving some IPs (from different VLANs) each a bandwidth guarantee ? Sorry if I was not clear in my o

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Richard Thornton
You're right! I am outa here! Bye! On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Peter Hessler wrote: > This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end > here?

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
It might come as a shock for you all. But we don't give a flying fuck for what you guys think about X where X is not related to OpenBSD. Try #ihavetheurgetoexpressmyfeeelings in irc.disney.com

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Hessler
This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end here?

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Richard Thornton
I am not stupid & midwestern enough to believe that all Muslims are a terrorist threat. My son is half jewish and I am not even reflexively pro-israel. I find that when I enter a church or a temple, its a bit of mental torture; over the weekend I was at a bat mitzvah and believe me, it was tortu

Re: Looking for good, small, canadian version laptop suggestions

2013-10-09 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, g.lister wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am looking for some suggestions for a good, small quite laptop. I was > looking at futureshop.ca and bestbuy.ca. I currently have an HP dv3 which > runs OpenBSD 5.2 but it is veeey loud some issue with keeping heat down > it ha

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/09/13 05:08, Zé Loff wrote: (Quite) a few years ago, the Dutch government wanted to make sure everyone had a proper burial, according to each one's beliefs and rituals. So they asked people to state their religious beliefs. This is a good idea right? Everyone's wishes get respected even

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Zé Loff
On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:44 AM, Benjamin Heath wrote: > But, people have given up this information. They weren't even paid or > coerced. Why so naive? (Quite) a few years ago, the Dutch government wanted to make sure everyone had a proper burial, according to each one's beliefs and rituals. So the

Re: OpenBSD on 64 cores and 256 GB of RAM

2013-10-09 Thread Kirill Bychkov
On Wed, October 9, 2013 01:25, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > We just received two new OEM Supermicro computing nodes for our Lab 4x16 > cores = 64 in total, 16x16GB RAM =256 GB of RAM in total. NIC: Intel > 82574 Dual-Port Gigabit. I just could not resist and I had to install > OpenBSD first. Everyth

Re: altq on multiple interfaces

2013-10-09 Thread Andy
# WAN egress Queues altq on $if_ext bandwidth 970Mb hfsc queue { ext_local, ext_wan } queue ext_local bandwidth 800Mb priority 4 hfsc(upperlimit 800Mb) { _local_kernel, _local_data } queue _local_kernel on $if_ext bandwidth 1% priority 6 hfsc(realtime 1%, linkshare 10%) queue

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-09 Thread Zé Loff
On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Scott McEachern wrote: > On 10/08/13 17:38, Richard Thornton wrote: >> I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter, >> but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is >> real and we need to be able to stop them anyway

altq on multiple interfaces

2013-10-09 Thread Leonardo Lombardo
Hi all, is there a way to configure altq on multiple interfaces, sharing the same parameters (bandwidth, priorities, etc) ? If not, is there some other mechanism to obtain the same result ? Thanks for any suggestion. Leonardo