On Fri, Aug 10, 2012, at 10:31 AM, lilit-aibolit wrote:
> On 08/10/2012 05:17 PM, Francois Pussault wrote:
> > In computer file systems, soft updates is an approach to maintaining disk
> > integrity after a crash or power outage. They are an alternative to
> > journaling
> > file system.
> Why sof
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
> For better or worse, that's the general attitude of the mailing list. :/
Definitely for worse. I've been on misc for a damned long time now,
since around the 2.3/2.4 days. I see some developers ranting every
now and then, and mostly jus
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012, at 10:08 PM, za...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 2012-08-11 03:59, Gordon Grieder wrote:
> > Welcome to misc@ :)
> >
> >
> > On 10 August 2012 20:49, wrote:
> >
> >> Above all, I do not understand the aggressive tone...
>
> Thanks, Gordon.
>
You asked a bad question. Not a big deal
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 03:49:01AM +0200, benh...@gmx.us wrote:
> On 2012-08-11 03:21, Andres Perera wrote:
> >i find it hard to believe you're involved in such project. "more
> >portable", "more secure" don't mean anything unless details are
> >involved. i mean, if it runs on your target hosts, wh
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> While we're on the subject, the T430 and T430s (ivy bridge update) do
> not work at present, or at least my T430s didn't. ahci times out
> initializing, so there's no hard drive. The wireless didn't seem to be
> detected either, and of course t
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 00:30, Friedrich Locke wrote:
> I am monitoring my process using the top program.
> I started vim on a file with 55 lines and 939 character.
>
> Top reports the vim using 6008K of the res column and 2944K of the size
> column.
> My questions is (based on the fact that res m
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 23:35, Friedrich Locke wrote:
> There are different level of responsaiblity.
>
> 0. setrlimit should be allowed to set any limit the super user wants.
> 1. physical addressing to 64 bit boundary
> 2. hardware pratical limit
>
> Anyway using arbitraty limits like openbsd do
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Friedrich Locke
wrote:
> How may a process uses more page of memory than the amount necessary
> for the sum of its data, stack and text segments ?
In your understanding, against which of those (data, stack, text) do
the pages of an mmap() of a file or device count
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Friedrich Locke
wrote:
> There are different level of responsaiblity.
>
> 0. setrlimit should be allowed to set any limit the super user wants.
> 1. physical addressing to 64 bit boundary
> 2. hardware pratical limit
>
> Anyway using arbitraty limits like openbsd d
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM, wrote:
> So, I really do not understand the rationale of you
> accusing me of lying on the basis of one email
> (incidentally, my very first email to this list). Above all, I
> do not understand the aggressive tone...
For better or worse, that's the general attit
I am monitoring my process using the top program.
I started vim on a file with 55 lines and 939 character.
Top reports the vim using 6008K of the res column and 2944K of the size column.
My questions is (based on the fact that res means resident set size
and size means data+stack+text of the proce
There are different level of responsaiblity.
0. setrlimit should be allowed to set any limit the super user wants.
1. physical addressing to 64 bit boundary
2. hardware pratical limit
Anyway using arbitraty limits like openbsd does for stack is really
bad design. Using arbitrary limit for data is
On 08/10/2012 06:33 PM, Vijay Sankar wrote:
Quoting Friedrich Locke :
Hi,
i have setted my system resources for a given user via login.conf, but
after the user login the ulimit -a returns different values.
Here is my login.conf entry:
general:\
:coredumpsize=infinity:\
:cputi
On 2012-08-11 03:59, Gordon Grieder wrote:
Welcome to misc@ :)
On 10 August 2012 20:49, wrote:
Above all, I do not understand the aggressive tone...
Thanks, Gordon.
Welcome to misc@ :)
On 10 August 2012 20:49, wrote:
> Above all, I do not understand the aggressive tone...
On 2012-08-11 03:21, Andres Perera wrote:
i find it hard to believe you're involved in such project. "more
portable", "more secure" don't mean anything unless details are
involved. i mean, if it runs on your target hosts, what could "more
portable" possibly mean?
it's better to say: i'm trying o
i find it hard to believe you're involved in such project. "more
portable", "more secure" don't mean anything unless details are
involved. i mean, if it runs on your target hosts, what could "more
portable" possibly mean?
it's better to say: i'm trying out these two and i want a comparison.
lying,
You wrote:
> A client of mine asked me if I can develop a BSD project for them. I don't
> have much experience with BSDs, and I have been collecting some background
> information.
> I was given the choice between OpenBSD and NetBSD.
> Now, since portability is not all that important, I was orien
Christian Weisgerber mips.inka.de> writes:
>
> Mark Kettenis:
>
> > Does the diff below fix the problem?
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> > --- azalia.c10 May 2012 22:46:48 - 1.200
> > +++ azalia.c10 Aug 2012 16:22:12 -
> > @@ -461,6 +461,7 @@ azalia_configure_pci(azalia_t *
Quoting Friedrich Locke :
Hi,
i have setted my system resources for a given user via login.conf, but
after the user login the ulimit -a returns different values.
Here is my login.conf entry:
general:\
:coredumpsize=infinity:\
:cputime=infinity:\
:datasize=infinity:\
On 08/10/12 12:06, za...@gmx.com wrote:
On 2012-08-10 15:59, Martin Schröder wrote:
2012/8/10 :
Has any modern filesystem been ported to OpenBSD? I really need to
know, because this issue may constitute a stumbling block to my
adoption of OpenBSD.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journal
Hi,
i have setted my system resources for a given user via login.conf, but
after the user login the ulimit -a returns different values.
Here is my login.conf entry:
general:\
:coredumpsize=infinity:\
:cputime=infinity:\
:datasize=infinity:\
:filesize=infinity:\
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 18:51, Sergey Prysiazhnyi wrote:
> Hello misc@.
>
> Did anybody have experience of the successful use of Subj device in
> OpenBSD?..
> The problem is that the device attached quite normal by the system:
> # dmesg | grep umsm
> umsm0 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface
Mark Kettenis:
> Does the diff below fix the problem?
Yes, it does.
> --- azalia.c 10 May 2012 22:46:48 - 1.200
> +++ azalia.c 10 Aug 2012 16:22:12 -
> @@ -461,6 +461,7 @@ azalia_configure_pci(azalia_t *az)
> case PCI_PRODUCT_INTEL_3400_HDA:
> case PCI_PRODUCT_INTEL_QS
Does the diff below fix the problem?
Index: azalia.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/azalia.c,v
retrieving revision 1.200
diff -u -p -r1.200 azalia.c
--- azalia.c10 May 2012 22:46:48 - 1.200
+++ azalia.c10 Aug 2012
On 2012-08-10 15:59, Martin Schröder wrote:
> > 2012/8/10 :
>> >> Has any modern filesystem been ported to OpenBSD? I really need to know,
>> >> because this issue may constitute a stumbling block to my adoption of
>> >> OpenBSD.
> > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling
> >
> > OpenBS
On 2012-08-10 15:59, Martin Schröder wrote:
2012/8/10 :
Has any modern filesystem been ported to OpenBSD? I really need to know,
because this issue may constitute a stumbling block to my adoption of OpenBSD.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling
OpenBSD is not for you: Users are ex
Jan Stary wrote:
> > I am currently running a snapshot of OpenBSD-current (amd64) as of
> > 31st July, 2012. I am having audio problems, i.e. the sound is distorted
> > when playing an mp3 or ogg-file.
>
> How exactly do you play it?
> Do you run sndiod? How exactly?
I got a new Ivy Bridge lap
On 8/10/2012 9:47 AM, benh...@gmx.us wrote:
modern filesystem
I would guess you did google,
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling
And it quite clearly states OpenBSD does not use that method, it uses
Soft Updates.
How do your employers define 'modern' - by "journaling" ?
Would you
On 08/10/2012 05:17 PM, Francois Pussault wrote:
In computer file systems, soft updates is an approach to maintaining disk
integrity after a crash or power outage. They are an alternative to journaling
file system.
Why softdep not enabled by default?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, wrote:
> Hi
>
> A client of mine asked me if I can develop a BSD project for them. I don't
have much experience with BSDs, and I have been collecting some background
information.
> I was given the choice between OpenBSD and NetBSD.
> Now, since portability is not
In computer file systems, soft updates is an approach to maintaining disk
integrity after a crash or power outage. They are an alternative to journaling
file system.
>
> From: Vijay Sankar
> Sent: Fri Aug 10 16:00:23 CEST 2012
> To:
> Subject: Re: Dilemma
2012/8/10 :
> Hi
>
> A client of mine asked me if I can develop a BSD project for them. I don't
have much experience with BSDs, and I have been collecting some background
information.
> I was given the choice between OpenBSD and NetBSD.
> Now, since portability is not all that important, I was ori
Quoting benh...@gmx.us:
Hi
A client of mine asked me if I can develop a BSD project for them. I
don't have much experience with BSDs, and I have been collecting
some background information.
I was given the choice between OpenBSD and NetBSD.
Now, since portability is not all that important,
2012/8/10 :
> Has any modern filesystem been ported to OpenBSD? I really need to know,
> because this issue may constitute a stumbling block to my adoption of OpenBSD.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling
OpenBSD is not for you: Users are expected to read the documentation
and do the
Hi
A client of mine asked me if I can develop a BSD project for them. I don't have
much experience with BSDs, and I have been collecting some background
information.
I was given the choice between OpenBSD and NetBSD.
Now, since portability is not all that important, I was oriented towards
OpenB
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 02:59:10PM +0200, David Coppa wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Sergey Prysiazhnyi
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 02:50:02AM +0400, Kirill Bychkov wrote:
> >> On Thu, August 9, 2012 19:51, Sergey Prysiazhnyi wrote:
> >> > Hello misc@.
> >> >
> >> > Did anybod
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Sergey Prysiazhnyi wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 02:50:02AM +0400, Kirill Bychkov wrote:
>> On Thu, August 9, 2012 19:51, Sergey Prysiazhnyi wrote:
>> > Hello misc@.
>> >
>> > Did anybody have experience of the successful use of Subj device in
>> > OpenBSD?..
>
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 02:50:02AM +0400, Kirill Bychkov wrote:
> On Thu, August 9, 2012 19:51, Sergey Prysiazhnyi wrote:
> > Hello misc@.
> >
> > Did anybody have experience of the successful use of Subj device in
> > OpenBSD?..
> > The problem is that the device attached quite normal by the syst
> Because it's much more efficient to have a persistent process that
> handles all the approvals for all the systrace processes on the system
> going forward and having an extra X client that hangs around blocked
> and doing nothing costs, well, almost nothing.
Aah now I understand too. You can al
On Aug 09 23:12:27, Alexander Shendi (web.de) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am currently running a snapshot of OpenBSD-current (amd64) as of
> 31st July, 2012. I am having audio problems, i.e. the sound is distorted
> when playing an mp3 or ogg-file.
How exactly do you play it?
Do you run sndiod? How ex
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