Re: Traffic control

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:01:18 +0200, americano wrote: >Hello, Misc. > >Will rewritten (updated and improved) implementation of the existing traffic >control system altq? > Will swim dingo? *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not origina

Traffic control

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Re: Dump levels ?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, wrote: > > Dump levels other than 0 allow you to make partial dumps. > > I used to do dump level 0's at the start of the month. > > Then from Monday to Thursday I'd to dump 9's. Each dump > would save things from the previous 9 (or 0 the first time). > Friday's I

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Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 07:08:44PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > that would be useable for basic sysadmin types (maybe something > nCurses)? 'crontab -e' Unless "basic admin" had developed some new meaning of which I am unaware. -- Chris Dukes

Re: fsck segfault on a big partition, 4.6

Joe Gidi [...@entropicblur.com] wrote: > > Does this mean that amd64 can now handle >4G of RAM, or is that a separate > issue? Separate issue But if you have an iommu device and you set bigmem=1 then it might work for you

Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Steve Shockley wrote: On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay" The overly pedantic part of me wonders if y

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

I am very impressed by the oratary skills you have all shown in this discussion... but please... can this thread be terminated soon? > > On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Paul M wrote: > > > >> it's **Not clear whatproblem you're actualy trying to solve.** > >> > > What's so difficult about "need a way to edit

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 20/02/2010, at 11:14 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Paul M wrote: it's **Not clear whatproblem you're actualy trying to solve.** What's so difficult about "need a way to edit crontab with something like an nCurses" interface? That seems to be, by definition, simple, point-

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:14 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > The chaps tweaking the crontab entries are Windoze admins, and they need > to adjust the start/stop times on cronjobs that start and stop replication Then have them create a Windows service that runs ssh and does whatever it is that needs do

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:21:12AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as technologists. There's nothing

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Paul M wrote: > it's **Not clear whatproblem you're actualy trying to solve.** > What's so difficult about "need a way to edit crontab with something like an nCurses" interface? That seems to be, by definition, simple, point-and-click, definate options, no man pages, no vi edi

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

if they don't have access to the machine then **why are you looking for alternatives to crontab**? Changes to the actual machines will be pushed via ssh, .. but that's way too much detail for the level of the question I was asking. Lee Actually, this is not too much info at all - it'

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 19 February 2010 16:14, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Kevin Wilcox wrote: >> On 19 February 2010 14:37, L. V. Lammert wrote: >> >> > Didn't say they had access to the **MACHINE** THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT FOR >> > THE NCURSES QUESTION, if you had bothered to read the OP instead of

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 20/02/2010, at 10:14 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: ... but that's way too much detail for the level of the question I was asking. Lee I couldn't dissagree more! I too have been following this thread, and I'm confused. Many people have jumped in and slammed various concepts - they're

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 19 February 2010 14:32, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > Man pages typically have examples. > *BUT* man pages are not instructions to perform a task/function, .. and are irrelavent for this question. > It's called "learning" and you are intentionally being d

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 19 February 2010 14:37, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > > Didn't say they had access to the **MACHINE** THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT FOR > > THE NCURSES QUESTION, if you had bothered to read the OP instead of > > bitching about what you THOUGHT it meant. > > Lee -

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 19 February 2010 14:32, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Johan Beisser wrote: >> What the hell is so hard about: > If you have to ask what's so hard, it's too hard. The OP was about making > the process **SIMPLE**, .. not complicated. Man pages are used to learn > about a command,

Re: Dump levels ?

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Jean-Francois wrote: ... > Not sure to understand the subtle of the man page explanations regarding the > dump of different nature of mount points. > > Just one additional information, the dump of higher levels work when I dump > /var but not /var/htdocs. The key

Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

I can tell you that *BSD is alive and well, and if anything is thriving in the network, data centre, and hosting environments. A search of the NANOG mailing lists (anyone teaching networking should know what NANOG is), and the webhostingtalk.com forums (where many hosting providers participate) wil

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 19 February 2010 14:37, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Kevin Wilcox wrote: >> If *you* are letting underqualified users have privileged access to an >> Unix machine then the failure here is *you*. > Didn't say they had access to the **MACHINE** THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT FOR > THE N

Re: Dump levels ?

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 09:49:35PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Le Vendredi 19 Fivrier 2010 21:15:46, Otto Moerbeek a icrit : > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:51:23PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > > Le Jeudi 18 Fivrier 2010 23:43:38, Adriaan a icrit : > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jea

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Re: Dump levels ?

Le Vendredi 19 Fivrier 2010 21:15:46, Otto Moerbeek a icrit : > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:51:23PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > > Le Jeudi 18 Fivrier 2010 23:43:38, Adriaan a icrit : > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jean-Francois > > > wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > My dump level

Re: MAX_KMAPENT and NKMEMPAGES

* Vasiliy Kiryanov [2010-02-18 18:08]: > Hello Community. > > There are 2 parameters that I would want to understand better and trace > somehow: > MAX_KMAPENT, and NKMEMPAGES. they don't really matter any more. > notice: > I have found only one source of such info: > "Running and tuning OpenBS

Re: pf packet tagging and keep state

* Agung T. Apriyanto [2010-02-13 11:19]: > if a packet already has a state, it would ignore re-read the whole > filter rule in the same interface, yes ? yes. > even when that packet get tagged but in the same interface, i mean, > state will ignore > tag and tagged if they were on same interface,

Re: Kernel page fault trap, code=0, uvm_fault, what to do next

* Marcin Wilk [2010-02-12 10:04]: > uvm_fault(0xd0891180, 0x4000, 0, 3) ->e > kernel: page fault trap, code=0 > Stopped at pf_state_key_detach+0x40: movl %eax0,4(%ecx) > ddb{0}> > dmesg: > OpenBSD 4.6 (NICRAM.MP) #0: Wed Feb 10 12:10:36 CET 2010 get stable. and use GENERIC. -- Henning Brauer,

Re: Dump levels ?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:51:23PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Le Jeudi 18 Fivrier 2010 23:43:38, Adriaan a icrit : > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jean-Francois > > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > My dump level 1 dumps all the files again. How to let it dump based on > > > the lower leve

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

yep I tested it now because I use just vi for it. $ export VISUAL=/usr/bin/gedit $ echo $VISUAL /usr/bin/gedit $ crontab -e will start gedit and I can modify my crontab in GUI editor. Man pages even on Linux are pretty straightforward and if someone can't understand how to use those 5 columns th

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

Users can edit their own crontabs. You can set for them some GUI editor trough variable for crontab and prepare some icon on desktop or something similar. But if you want for them to be able to edit root crontab then reactions of other people here are valid. PS: I'm curious why non-sysadmin aka no

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:08 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > Found one tcl/tk at: > http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/vcron/vcronGB.html > but running an X tool would app would be too complicated for this > requirement. Wow, from the page "BE CARREFUL, some Slackware seem to have an access right proble

Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

2010/2/13 Tomas Bodzar > People which like S/M (iptables) are able to follow only one argument > - punch them. It's something which makes them happy :-D > > Now something more seriously. I think that it will be possible to > write about iptables and provide (eg. as comment) "how-to" for OpenBSD >

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > Yep, .. that's one reason I don't want to use it. We'll probably end up > creating our own tool with nCurses that looks something like vcron. It > just feels like we're recreating the wheel, however. Well, I believe that dropping a badly des

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, FRLinux wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:08 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > Found one tcl/tk at: > > http://www.linux-kheops.com/pub/vcron/vcronGB.html > > but running an X tool would app would be too complicated for this > > requirement. > > Wow, from the page "BE CARREFUL,

Re: more OT than you think Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Diana Eichert wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > > image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as

Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

> Hehe. I did APL. Was gonna be the next best thing to sliced bread ;-) I'm sure you meant to write ``bake-only sliced bread'' here! Miod

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > If *you* are letting underqualified users have privileged access to an > Unix machine then the failure here is *you*. > Didn't say they had access to the **MACHINE** THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT FOR THE NCURSES QUESTION, if you had bothered to read the OP inste

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On 19 February 2010 11:21, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lars Nooden wrote: >> L. V. Lammert wrote: >> > ... no way I'd saddle some of these >> > guys with vi, much less setting the cron time parameters correctly. >> Then you are far, far better off not letting them anywhere near

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Johan Beisser wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:21 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > > > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > > image out to a DR server, than *we* h

Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:11:21 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Steve Shockley wrote: > > > On 2/13/2010 6:49 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: > >> PS when I went to college BSD didn't exist and I turned out "okay" > > > > The overly pedantic part of me wonders if you went to colleg

Re: more OT than you think Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: snip thread > You are missing the point of "privilege" then. Privilege gives you access > to tools and right to shoot yourself in the foot. It is obvious to me that > someone was elevated to a privileged level without having the > necess

Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:21 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as technologists. Wait. What the hell i

Re: Dump levels ?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:54:55PM +0100, Jean-Francois wrote: > Is it possible to clarify what resides behind the concept of levels regarding > dump(8) ? > For me the level 0 is understood to be a complete dump of all files on at a > given mount point and all subdirectories. But I can't figure o

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more OT than you think Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, L. V. Lammert wrote: No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as technologists. Lee You are missing the point

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Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lars Nooden wrote: > L. V. Lammert wrote: > > ... no way I'd saddle some of these > > guys with vi, much less setting the cron time parameters correctly. > > Then you are far, far better off not letting them anywhere near the > server room if they are that unqualified. > No, t

Re: OT: opinions on IDS / IPS solutions

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:59:05PM -0500, Jason Beaudoin wrote: > As I often have greater respect for a much larger portion of this list > than the rest of the internet, I am curious what is thought about > current IDS/IPS hardware from vendors like Trustwave, Checkpoint, > Alert Logic, mod_securit

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Re: Refusal to mention OpenBSD in a MSc Advanced Networking course

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:40:05 + TS Lura wrote: > "ooh, that's > cool" It's the poor man's Apple, without all the caveats, controls and gotchas, but with a complete toolbox and manual. You can run it on anything that will run a WinDos (and then some), and you will get more reliability with b

Re: Current on FuLoong unable to figure out system type

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 09:13:05AM +0100, Peter Hessler wrote: > On 2010 Feb 19 (Fri) at 10:05:06 +0200 (+0200), Lars Nooden wrote: > :Otto Moerbeek wrote: > :> The lasy days I spent on working at the install procedure. The code I > :> am about to commit is able to create a small ext2 partition or

Re: Current on FuLoong unable to figure out system type

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:05:06AM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: > Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:44:17PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > >>> Retry with boot -k tftp://..., as suggested by the error message. > >>> Also PMON sometimes

Re: Current on FuLoong unable to figure out system type

On 2010 Feb 19 (Fri) at 10:05:06 +0200 (+0200), Lars Nooden wrote: :Otto Moerbeek wrote: :> The lasy days I spent on working at the install procedure. The code I :> am about to commit is able to create a small ext2 partition or use an :> existing ext2 one to install the bootloader on. The kernel th

Re: Current on FuLoong unable to figure out system type

Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:44:17PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >>> Retry with boot -k tftp://..., as suggested by the error message. >>> Also PMON sometimes gets confused, and a power cycle is needed (using the >>> reset button is