On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:21:12AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as technologists.
There's nothing "elitist" about requiring baseline knowledge, and I think "reading the man page for crontab and understanding what the fields mean" sets that bar quite low. Anyone who can't clear that bar may be a nice person, a fine person, a wonderful person, but they have absolutely no business being in a system/network administration role. For whatever reason, they just don't have what it takes. Perhaps they'll go off and acquire it: people do learn and grow. But until/unless they do, they should be doing something else for a living, doubly so in the contemporary environment, where their ignorance/incompetence is an active menace to everyone else on the 'net. Or at least to your operation: surely something as critically important as backups can not, should not, be relegated to such people. "Mister Hart, here is a dime. Take it, call your mother, and tell her there is serious doubt about you ever becoming a lawyer." --- Kingsfield I often find it remarkable that we had secretarial staff working at the command line and creating quite complex documents with troff, eqn, and tbl 25 years ago, yet so-called "system administrators" today can't use vi (let alone ed). ---Rsk