Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Daniel Andersen
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:43:27AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > applets? personal customizations? > unclutter I'm idle enough to google for "unclutter". I hereby thank you for directing me to yet another great utility. -

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Andrej Elizarov
love it. from first sight and 3.7-around. oh, what is it? tears?! no, just rain. > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? awesome. and it is. really. with dual monitors. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar

Re: hw.sensors jumping up and down

2010-01-03 Thread mehma sarja
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:22 PM, frantisek holop wrote: > hi there, > > i have noticed that my hw sensors ouput is changing > in a disturbing way (notice temp0): > > day 1: > hw.sensors.it0.temp0=255.00 degC > hw.sensors.it0.fan0=5625 RPM > hw.sensors.it0.fan1=0 RPM > hw.sensors.it0.fan2=0 RPM > >

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, I personally run only OpenBSD on all my desktops. I spend no less than 5 hours a day working on them and no I am not a software developer. I must admit though I enjoy writing a nice AWK or a shell script. > but I ha

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2010-01-04, Nick Guenther wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: >> I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after >> this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 >> and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1).

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after > this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 > and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway > I plan to try this one http://ww

hw.sensors jumping up and down

2010-01-03 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, i have noticed that my hw sensors ouput is changing in a disturbing way (notice temp0): day 1: hw.sensors.it0.temp0=255.00 degC hw.sensors.it0.temp1=26.00 degC hw.sensors.it0.temp2=36.00 degC hw.sensors.it0.fan0=5625 RPM hw.sensors.it0.fan1=0 RPM hw.sensors.it0.fan2=0 RPM hw.sensors.it0

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 08:07:58PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > I'll take patches. There are several features I don't use but still > committed; the only requirements I have are: > * ISC licensed > * not in the way of current behavior > * well written and within the scrotwm style I'll see what

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll take patches. There are several features I don't use but still committed; the only requirements I have are: * ISC licensed * not in the way of current behavior * well written and within the scrotwm style If you need things like tags write the patch an it'll go in provided you meet the re

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Ryan Flannery wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett > >> Josh Rickmar wrote: > [snip] > >>> This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I > >>> last tried it,

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Bennett
Ryan Flannery wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett Josh Rickmar wrote: [snip] This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Ryan Flannery
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett >> Josh Rickmar wrote: [snip] >>> This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I >>> last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which >>> workspaces currently

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
I had it on the status bar before and hated it. I have never found any use for tagging. On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett wrote: Josh Rickmar wrote: I tried out scrotwm, wasn't all that impressed. I really don't understand why the devs decided to remove dwm's tagging features. This

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Jan 2, 2010, at 20:08, Brynet wrote: Hi, I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? When I started using OpenBSD (.

Re: ntp log rotation

2010-01-03 Thread Andreas Kahari
NTPD does its own rotating if you tell it to. See e.g. http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/monopt.html Cheers, Andreas 2010/1/3 Lars Kotthoff : > Hi list, > > is there any way to use newsyslog with ntpd (not the OpenBSD one) without > having to restart it? Just rotating the log causes subs

Re: ntp log rotation

2010-01-03 Thread nixlists
It takes either a masochist to run original NTPD, or you are being tortured.

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert
Anders Langworthy wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Brynet wrote: * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I wasn't going to reply, but I couldn't believe that cwm hasn't received any love yet. It's glorious. Powerful keyboard contr

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ntp log rotation

2010-01-03 Thread Lars Kotthoff
Hi list, is there any way to use newsyslog with ntpd (not the OpenBSD one) without having to restart it? Just rotating the log causes subsequent log messages to be lost and killing ntpd with SIGHUP causes it to exit. I've had a look at the manpages and on the interwebs, but didn't find anything.

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Anders Langworthy
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Brynet wrote: > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I wasn't going to reply, but I couldn't believe that cwm hasn't received any love yet. It's glorious. Powerful keyboard control, neat features, and fa

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Bennett
Josh Rickmar wrote: I tried out scrotwm, wasn't all that impressed. I really don't understand why the devs decided to remove dwm's tagging features. This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspace

Re: Openssl patch breaks Tor

2010-01-03 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 08:15:55 + Josh Rickmar wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:31:55AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > > Long > > > time ago I did try development versions of NetBSD and FreeBSD > > > because I needed support for hardware that -stable didn't have, > > > and they were quite shak

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
Sorry for the duplicate again... I really have to get used to using mutt's list-reply. - Forwarded message from Josh Rickmar - Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 08:30:26 + From: Josh Rickmar To: Tomas Bodzar Subject: Re: What does your environment look like? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14

Re: Openssl patch breaks Tor

2010-01-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:31:55AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > Long > > time ago I did try development versions of NetBSD and FreeBSD because > > I needed support for hardware that -stable didn't have, and they were > > quite shaky. Or do you guys just want more people to use -current for > > th

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Julian Leyh
Am 03.01.10 04:11, schrieb Bryan: http://imagebin.ca/view/3JllgShA.png I will kill to learn how to use mutt... It looks great... That's vim used as editor for messages in mutt. But yes, mutt is great.

Re: IPSEC bringing down networking

2010-01-03 Thread Jiro
On 2010-01-03, Jeff Simmons wrote: > Probably a bit premature to be asking this since I won't be able to physically > access the machine until Monday, but here goes ... > > I have a machine that I admin remotely running 4.6 with all the patches. It's > a firewall only machine with 6 ethernet inter

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Bennett
I use scrotwm with dual monitors. I really like scrotwm since it works well on even really old hardware. I adjust to make home, end, delete=delete forward work in xterm I force keypad to work numbers only I use colorls I have aliases to swap between english and spanish I have emu card so I use au

Re: USB Ethernet

2010-01-03 Thread Vijay Sankar
Tomas Bodzar wrote: Did you try current? Anyway man pages says that this chip is supported in both release and current. What says 'usbdevs -v' about your device? Thanks very much. I will set up -current and report back to you and the list. I get the following with usbdevs -v Controller /de

Re: Openssl patch breaks Tor

2010-01-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-01-02, nixlists wrote: > If I upgrade to -current, don't I risk stability and security issues; "stable" mostly refers to API changes; neither -current nor -stable should be particularly unreliable (and security should be the same or better in -current).

Re: IPSEC bringing down networking

2010-01-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-01-03, Jeff Simmons wrote: > Probably a bit premature to be asking this since I won't be able to > physically > access the machine until Monday, but here goes ... > > I have a machine that I admin remotely running 4.6 with all the patches. It's > a firewall only machine with 6 ethernet

Re: 802.11n cards for AP?

2010-01-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-01-02, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > > I've found some cable/antenna assemblies that might allow me to remote > an antenna to a good spot in the house for coverage, and I'm thus > re-considering going with a FW based AP setup once again. > > According to the OpenBSD site, the following 802.11

Re: Further testing a drive with dd running -current

2010-01-03 Thread David Vasek
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Scott McEachern wrote: The second was your suggestion, and interestingly, it produces the error. Partition "e" starts at 43 022 070, the "problem" is at 268 435 455, so we'll skip 225 413 380 to start just before that spot: # dd if=/dev/rwd0e of=/dev/null skip=225413380 d

Re: Openssl patch breaks Tor

2010-01-03 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:45:00 -0500 nixlists wrote: > If I upgrade to -current, don't I risk stability and security issues; > or are the chances of that are very low as far as this OS goes? (sigh) If you run *any* software, you are running the risk of stability and security issues! --It's just a

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-03 Thread Tomas Bodzar
I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway I plan to try this one http://www.scrotwm.org/ On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Josh Rickmar

Re: USB Ethernet

2010-01-03 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Did you try current? Anyway man pages says that this chip is supported in both release and current. What says 'usbdevs -v' about your device? On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Vijay Sankar wrote: > I am trying to use a USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet adapter > > axe0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interf

Re: OT - problem with pcc OpenBSD 4.6

2010-01-03 Thread Tomas Bodzar
But this post says that - pcc can now build a bootable OpenBSD -current x86 kernel. So I suppose that you will have better chance with current and not release/stable. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Jesus Sanchez wrote: > As anounced in undeadly.org i've started trying pcc for little things > and