Re: Linus about C++

> >Is he right? > > If you just search the archive, even not to long ago, 'few days' you > will see pretty much the same feeling about C++ on the OpenBSD list as > well as pretty much any lists that cares about correct code and clarity > in programing. > > But don't take my words for it, just

Re: Linus about C++

Brian Hansen wrote: Is he right? If you just search the archive, even not to long ago, 'few days' you will see pretty much the same feeling about C++ on the OpenBSD list as well as pretty much any lists that cares about correct code and clarity in programing. But don't take my words for i

Linus about C++

Hi. This is partly not OpenBSD related, and yet again someone pointed out that perhaps a lot of bug could be avoided using C++. I am writting my big paper on C and C++ and would like some comments from people who are experts. Off-list is okay, but maybe others are interested as well. I found thi

Re: x4100

Kyle George wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote: Ok got my x4100 out of storage. What was the mpi issue again that someone was seeing? Sorry for the broadcast but I couldn't find that email. I think this is the thread you're looking for: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119

Re: When spammers get whitelisted...

Allie D. wrote: I have had to wipe my spamdb twice in the last month because spammers get past my blacklists (I run the ones that come in spamd.conf) and my greylisting and just hammer a few of my customers. The spam comes from multiple IP's so it's a bitch to block by hand...anyone have any tips

Re: x4100

Marco Peereboom wrote: Ok got my x4100 out of storage. What was the mpi issue again that someone was seeing? Sorry for the broadcast but I couldn't find that email. 4100 M2 Any time you put a amd64.mp kernel on that box and you try to do heavy access to the SAS drives, the server will crash

Re: x4100

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote: Ok got my x4100 out of storage. What was the mpi issue again that someone was seeing? Sorry for the broadcast but I couldn't find that email. I think this is the thread you're looking for: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119623820305056&w=2 --

When spammers get whitelisted...

I have had to wipe my spamdb twice in the last month because spammers get past my blacklists (I run the ones that come in spamd.conf) and my greylisting and just hammer a few of my customers. The spam comes from multiple IP's so it's a bitch to block by hand...anyone have any tips on blocking these

Re: Embedding OpenBSD

Nick Holland wrote: Only 60M is mounted RW, so it fsck's very quickly, and my app writes only to the MFS. Why mount any CF partition RW? And you should be able to test your system on a CD to prove it'll work without writing.

Re: Embedding OpenBSD

Nick Holland wrote: I've got a little project I'm working on here. It involves stuffing a computer in a donation box with a money detector, so every time someone tosses money in the box, it plays an MP3 file. (no, you can't make a living at this. At least, *I* can't) The first two of these I d

Re: Embedding OpenBSD

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 09:34:37PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > I've got a little project I'm working on here. > It involves stuffing a computer in a donation box with a > money detector, so every time someone tosses money in the box, > it plays an MP3 file. > > However, this is the first time I

x4100

Ok got my x4100 out of storage. What was the mpi issue again that someone was seeing? Sorry for the broadcast but I couldn't find that email.

blog ranking

Hi, I've found your last post blog.1407.org at technorati. I think you might be interested in joining one of our rankings at this category It would be the right place for your blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, D.

Embedding OpenBSD

I've got a little project I'm working on here. It involves stuffing a computer in a donation box with a money detector, so every time someone tosses money in the box, it plays an MP3 file. (no, you can't make a living at this. At least, *I* can't) The first two of these I did were many years ago

backup firewall connectivity

I am wondering, in a dual firewall situation, preemption enabled, carp working just fine (i think), is it normal that the backup firewall (when in backup state) has no connectivity on any of the carped interfaces? I only ask because I have read some posts where someone is connecting somewhere

Re: Using the C programming language

Marco Peereboom wrote: So lets get the story straight. Ada is great but the compiler sucks. Winning combination for an open source os. As a matter of fact, gnat/gcc uses the same code generation back end for Ada as for any other supported language. Regards, Freddy

Re: Using the C programming language

Girish Venkatachalam wrote: Can someone give me a list of useful links on Ada so I can start learning the language? I did read the wikipedia entry though. A short introduction to some of Ada's features in comparison to C/C++ and Java can be found here:

Re: openbsd router hardware

On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 01:29:49PM +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: > - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do > the installation) If that is the only time you'll use vga, it may open up lots of non-VGA board options if you get any old cheap/free box to use as a serial ter

Help with Seagate STT3401A tape drive

Hi, all. I've finally found some time to try and get a tape drive - Seagate STT3401A (now Certance/Quantum) - working on a Dell SC440. I've not used tapes before, found plenty on Google, but I cannot get anything to work as documented. Most of the commands seem to fail for me (OpenBSD 4.2 CD rel

Re: Perpetually Current

Karsten McMinn wrote on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:21:54AM -0800: > obviously automation. regardless of personal administration ethics > it seems like a fair question. If you understand the OP's question that way, you should also provide the following answer to the OP: There is no standard way for

Re: Perpetually Current

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:21:54AM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: > On Dec 27, 2007 10:47 AM, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's about one hour of work twice a year - what's wrong with that? Why > > do you want to stay -current? What problem are you trying to solve, or > > what are you t

Re: sparc64 on Sun Netra T1 with external CD Drive

On Dec 27, 2007 4:43 PM, Miod Vallat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drop the ``:f'' part and it should boot fine. > > Miod Continuation... from last post: Then I see this: - Evaluating: boot /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 C

Re: sparc64 on Sun Netra T1 with external CD Drive

On Dec 27, 2007 4:43 PM, Miod Vallat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drop the ``:f'' part and it should boot fine. > > Miod I've tried that, but I'll try again. It just hangs with this at the console: Executing last command: boot /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PRO

Re: Using the C programming language

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:27:15 -0800 Kirk Ismay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rico Secada wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600 > > "David Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> It is my understand

Re: sparc64 on Sun Netra T1 with external CD Drive

> From the ok> prompt, I'm doing this: > > boot /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL > PROTECTED],0:f > > This boots the Solaris install CD OK, but not OpenBSD 4.2 CD. Any tips? Drop the ``:f'' part and it should boot fine. Miod

sparc64 on Sun Netra T1 with external CD Drive

Hi again, >From the ok> prompt, I'm doing this: boot /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f This boots the Solaris install CD OK, but not OpenBSD 4.2 CD. Any tips? Thanks, Brad -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/sparc64-on-Sun-Net

Re: Using the C programming language

Rico Secada wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600 "David Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is my understanding that C is the hackers tool while Ada is the tool of the engineer. I think it is mostly because of tradi

Re: pf visible bridge/router

It's the same as an invisible bridge except you have IP's on the if's, that's the only diff. Beavis wrote: > Hi all!, > > I've been searching lists with regards to building a Visible > Bridge/Router with PF on OpenBSD. > But most of the material I see are for invisible bridge configs. I > wanted

pf visible bridge/router

Hi all!, I've been searching lists with regards to building a Visible Bridge/Router with PF on OpenBSD. But most of the material I see are for invisible bridge configs. I wanted to just to a straight Routing/Bridging on my FW's (without the use of NAT) Any comments or experiences shared will be a

Re: Perpetually Current

On Dec 27, 2007 10:47 AM, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's about one hour of work twice a year - what's wrong with that? Why > do you want to stay -current? What problem are you trying to solve, or > what are you trying to achieve by doing that? obviously automation. regardless of p

Re: Perpetually Current

On Dec 27, 2007 8:35 AM, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 17:31]: > > Thats my point: running -current means building from source and > > thus being affected. > > huh? > not at all. > you use snapshots of course. STeve understands that but

Re: Perpetually Current

On Dec 27 06:17:37, new_guy wrote: > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured > for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. That's what upgrades are for. > Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for > many years w/o

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

* Mitch Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 19:27]: > If someone has 2 ADSL lines they're bonding, chances are they're not > going to want BGP set up (most people I know would have at least a /24, > 2 T1s, and a good ISP). Will most providers even let you set up BGP if > you're running less tha

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

At 09:50 AM 12/27/2007 -0800, you wrote: > The issue would be reverse DNS - no way I know of to provide RDNS for the > same hostname on two different IPs (IF you could get the provide to do RDNS > at all!). It would be required for a mail server; it would also farkle a > web server for any

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

Henning, I agree with you on this. However, I was looking at this from the SMTP and outgoing angles (which IMHO is a bit better designed for this scenario than HTTP, SSH, or other services). Obviously you'd want BGP for the Web or other services (and if you've got 2 ADSL lines, you're probably h

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

* Mitch Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 18:34]: > You don't need bonding for incoming traffic :). > > PF will take care of the outbound load-balancing for you (and there's an > example pf.conf that addresses this in Absolute OpenBSD) if configured > correctly. > > If you have DNS set up ri

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

Jussi Peltola wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:13:11AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Isn't that easily solved with DNS round robin in the

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

L.V., You don't need bonding for incoming traffic :). PF will take care of the outbound load-balancing for you (and there's an example pf.conf that addresses this in Absolute OpenBSD) if configured correctly. If you have DNS set up right, you don't need bonding for incoming traffic. That's what

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

At 07:09 PM 12/27/2007 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:13:11AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider > I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Isn't that easily solved with DNS round

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:13:11AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider > I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Isn't that easily solved with DNS round robin in the case of mail and web servers?

Re: Perpetually Current

* STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 17:31]: > Thats my point: running -current means building from source and > thus being affected. huh? not at all. you use snapshots of course. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP -

Re: Perpetually Current

On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:46:26 Henning Brauer wrote: > * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 16:42]: > > On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: > > > * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 15:43]: > > > > On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wro

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Sajith wrote: > Hi its Sajith > > Is it possible for Merging 2 ADSL lines > > Regards > > Sajith > It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Lee

Re: Perpetually Current

* STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 16:42]: > On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: > > * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 15:43]: > > > On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: > > > > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patch

Re: Perpetually Current

On 12/27/07, new_guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for > many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it > be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o > having to reinstal

Re: Perpetually Current

On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote: > * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 15:43]: > > On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: > > > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured > > > for many years there after (5 - 7 years) i

Re: Perpetually Current

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:07:00PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > > The second problem are flag days, when something has changed such > > that you almost certainly want to reinstall the OS. The move from > > a.out to ELF binary format is a good example of that. > > ah yeah, and that happens every

Re: Perpetually Current

* STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 15:43]: > On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: > > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for > > many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it > > be feasible to get a snapsh

Re: Perpetually Current

On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote: > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for > many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it > be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o > having to rei

Perpetually Current

I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to reinstall? Basically, this approach would skip -stable and -rele

Re: pgt prevents pf from scrubbing?

pgt, for me, has proven to be more reliable than ral, but this annoying scrubbing/mss issue is starting to get to me. Any recommendations for the best place to look in the source to address this? The only time I've really worked with C was in college and on a few ports here and there, but I'm nea

Re: 3ware Escalade 7210 (3w7210) supported in OpenBSD?

OpenBSD _recognizes_ the 3ware Escalade (6x00, 7xx0) series of controllers, but for all practical purposes you will NOT get the benefits normally associated with RAID. so are there any other raid cards in the price range of the 3ware controllers that are recommendable and fully supported on op

Re: Duplicate entries in the output of "mixerctl"

On Dec 14, 2007 12:31 AM, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Amarendra Godbole writes: > > > mixerctl output has some duplicate entries (duplicated names, but > > different values), which leaves me confused. Here is the output: > > I see... this happens when an item has both input

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

Sajith a icrit : Hi its Sajith Is it possible for Merging 2 ADSL lines yep i do this for my company with 2 ADSL line in load balancing it is working like a charm : pf.conf ( a part of ...) # load balance outgoing tcp traffic from internal network. pass in on $int_if route-to \