On Thursday 27 December 2007 10:07:00 Henning Brauer wrote:
> * STeve Andre' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 15:43]:
> > On Thursday 27 December 2007 09:17:37 new_guy wrote:
> > > I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured
> > > for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment.
> > > Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for
> > > many years w/o having to reinstall? Basically, this approach would skip
> > > -stable and -release and always be -current. I understand the
> > > implications of being current and that things might change and break
> > > and may need re-configuring on occasion. I'm OK with that... I just
> > > don't want to reinstall a -release every year... although I'll still
> > > buy CDs as they are released to support the project.
>
> that will work fine as long as you keep an eye on current.html and
> maybe source-changes, it is what many of us do.
>
> > There are two problems with what you are talking about.  The first is
> > that by its vary nature -current is a moving target, and there could be
> > a time when upgrading to the latest -current for a security fix might
> > introduce some new feature which you don't want.
>
> why wouldn't you want a new feature?
> we're being extremely careful to not break existing behaviour wherever
> possible. of course, that is not always possible, but exceptions are
> rare and well documented.

I didn't express that well enough, I guess.  How about a change, such as
disks formerly showing up as wd but now sd?  By problem, I mean 
something that has to be dealt with, not just insurmountable ones.

>
> > The second problem are flag days, when something has changed such
> > that you almost certainly want to reinstall the OS.  The move from
> > a.out to ELF binary format is a good example of that.
>
> ah yeah, and that happens every second week.
> reality check: how often does that happen really?
> the last "real" flag day on i386 was the a.out -> ELF move.
> When was that? 3.3 I think. almost 5 years ago.

Perhaps I'm wrong here, but I thought about every other release
there was a change that was a flag day.  I see that the upgrade
faq doesn't have a history so I'd have to dig for it.  Still, my point
was they do happen from time to time so the idea of living on
-current won't always work.

As I read his posting, new_guy is getting the concepts down.  Though
they are few, flag days still need to be understood.

--STeve Andre'

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