On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 00:30 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> Obviously you have missed some of my commentaries on the GPL vs. BSD
> philosophy. I don't hate the GPL. I dislike it compared to the BSD
> alternative in general (I dislike milk chocolate compared to dark
> chocolate, too, but either beats
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 11:39 +, Sebastien Carlier wrote:
> Rui,
>
> On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> >
> > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.
>
> You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*
> than the GPL because the B
--- Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed FreeBSD once in my life. Took me 3 tries and I am sure some
> kittens were murdered in the process. I am also pretty sure I wept at
> some point. Honestly I can't remember a much worse installer; maybe SCO
> OpenServer but not by much
A new kernel with those options disabled did not change anything.
On 9/14/07, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not have experience with the net5501, but as for the vpn1411, you
> may want to check out this thread:
>
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=117826557508813&w=2
>
> It
Please omit me from the cc list on these messages.
Yes, I'm always reading the documentation, I really think it's very good.. I
don't know if I didn't speak right what I was thinking about or I really
don't understand.
Greg asked if OpenBSD will release a Install ISO, so I pointed him to the
install42.iso that is in snapshots dir, these snapshots t
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Greg Thomas wrote:
On 9/14/07, Celso Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No? OpenBSD is freezed for new features, new features are being added to
-current branch..
I installed the snapshot and it indicate that is OpenBSD 4.2.. so I don't
understand, could you please explai
I think this is the part of documentation your looking for:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#allowoverride it show what
you can specify to AllowOverride directive.
Obviously if you put "AllowOverride All" in your httpd.conf and your user
cannot change some of these settings, so it'l
On 9/14/07, Celso Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No? OpenBSD is freezed for new features, new features are being added to
> -current branch..
> I installed the snapshot and it indicate that is OpenBSD 4.2.. so I don't
> understand, could you please explain it better for me?
>
Well, nothing
Hello all,
Ok, here is a sample. I tried a connection from my workstation 10.0.0.103
to ftp.openbsd.org.
Firewall's pf.conf
---BEGIN
if_loopback="lo0" # loopback
if_public="em1" # connected to public network
if_int="bnx1" # connected to internal network (10.0.0.0/24)
i
No? OpenBSD is freezed for new features, new features are being added to
-current branch..
I installed the snapshot and it indicate that is OpenBSD 4.2.. so I don't
understand, could you please explain it better for me?
Thanks in advance,
Celso
2007/9/14, Antti Harri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On F
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:10:22PM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
> have a few apache config settings that are needed in an .htaccess file,
> such as SetEnvIf, RewriteEngine, RewriteBase and RewriteRule. by having
> "AllowOverride All" for the Directory corresponding to where the
> .htaccess fi
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Paul de Weerd wrote:
>>
>> Scenario A, this code is released under the BSD license. You can take
>> it, improve it and never share your changes with anyone.
>>
>> Scenario B, this code is released under the GPL license. You can take
>> it, improve it and never share your
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2007/09/14 16:49, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> > Posted to ports-bugs, .. but nobody caught it.
>
> TBH, I never noticed that list before. Most ports discussion is
> on ports@ (cc'd and reply-to set) or with the relevant maintainer
> (see the output from
have a few apache config settings that are needed in an .htaccess file,
such as SetEnvIf, RewriteEngine, RewriteBase and RewriteRule. by having
"AllowOverride All" for the Directory corresponding to where the
.htaccess file resides one can have these additional settings in the
.htaccess file an
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:06:56 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>There's no blind so bad as that which refuses to see. There's nothing I
>can do to change that.
Pot, Kettle, Black.
R/
"Write a wise saying and your name will live on forever." - Anonymous
On Friday 14 September 2007, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:29:44PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
wrote:
> > | > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > | > > The spirit of the GNU G
On 2007/09/14 16:49, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> Posted to ports-bugs, .. but nobody caught it.
TBH, I never noticed that list before. Most ports discussion is
on ports@ (cc'd and reply-to set) or with the relevant maintainer
(see the output from 'pkg_info ').
> Has anyone else noticed the p1 package
On 9/14/07, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sebastien Carlier wrote:
> > So, you are indeed taking the point of view that there is "good freedom"
> > and "bad freedom", and that coercion is needed to allow "good freedom"
> > to prevail. I am glad you said so since it is totally rel
For 4.0:
--
/etc/inetd.conf:
ftp-proxy stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/ftp-proxy
ftp-proxy -m 55000 -t 180
--
/etc/pf.conf:
wired_if="xl0"
wireless_if="{ ral0, xl1 }"
localhost_ip="127.0.0.1"
# ftp-proxy
nat-anchor "ftp-proxy/*"
rdr-anchor "ftp-pr
Posted to ports-bugs, .. but nobody caught it.
Has anyone else noticed the p1 package is broken [Warning: Cannot change to
directory - known bug]? Is there a simple way to revert to p0 (which does
work)?
Lee
On 9/14/07, Pau Amaro-Seoane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please don't touch the installer. It's just perfect.
Ditto.
Talking to new users, the feedback I get is that they tend to screw up
partitioning, but other than that, no substantial complaints about the
install process.
Sure, it's not pret
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
I'd love to see how an user who gets a modified binary version has the
freedom to modify it. Go ahead. Prove me that it doesn't allow some users
to loose freedom...
You make the point of using BLOB so well, Thank you!
Looking forward to see you fight for document
On http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/jul/31/openhal/
you have:
--
About OpenHAL
OpenHAL is low-level interface software for Atheros 802.11 wireless
cards. Previously, Linux-based systems needed a proprietary Hardware
Abstraction Layer (HAL) plus a wrapper driver to make
On Thursday 13 September 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 07:09:09AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> > Free software: It's all about the price.
> > The rest of the talk about "freedom", etc. is just trying to keep
> > them from looking like cheap, greedy bastards.
> > At least fo
On 9/14/07, Jason Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an OpenBSD 4.1 system running as a NAT firewall for our office and
> unfortunately I have to support a couple of active
> FTP clients on the inside of the firewall, so I've set up ftp-proxy. I've
> never used ftp-proxy before an
Sebastien Carlier wrote:
So, you are indeed taking the point of view that there is "good freedom"
and "bad freedom", and that coercion is needed to allow "good freedom"
to prevail. I am glad you said so since it is totally related to what
follows.
Total freedom without coercion is anar
> Anyway, a while later he comes back and says, "It's done! I couldn't
> believe how easy it was."
This mirrors my (linux-coloured) experience of trying an OpenBSD
install for the first time.
--
steev
http://www.daikaiju.org.uk/~steve/
You should send us your pf configuration.
On 9/14/07, Jason Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an OpenBSD 4.1 system running as a NAT firewall for our office and
> unfortunately I have to support a couple of active
> FTP clients on the inside of the firewall, so I've set up ftp-pr
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Celso Fernandes wrote:
Right.. you can do your own with less distribution sets (without X for
example), but OpenBSD now releases a base iso for installation, you can
found this for the pre-release 4.2 at
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install42.iso if you w
On 9/14/07, Insan Praja SW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have recently facing a problem when installing openBSD 4.0 on intel
> S3000AH, it seems that the embedded gigabit ethernet (em1) is causing
> this, since openBSD installer trap a kernel panic message when it tried to
> load the m
Paul de Weerd wrote:
Scenario A, this code is released under the BSD license. You can take
it, improve it and never share your changes with anyone.
Scenario B, this code is released under the GPL license. You can take
it, improve it and never share your changes with anyone.
Where is the differ
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:
> I am just wondering, how would it become worse if I would just set three
> labels: /, swap and /home. What ways would it make my system worse?
Ehhh, a disk has a label defining partitions. It does not have
multiple labels.
For an answer to your
On Friday 14 September 2007 07:09:51 you wrote:
> Email the SFLC and FSF and remind them that Free Software consists of more
> than the almighty penguin.
They belive defending their work from use in close source software to be the
only true way and therefore everyone who doesn't have the license s
I am just wondering, how would it become worse if I would just set three
labels: /, swap and /home. What ways would it make my system worse?
--
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had
a name of signature.asc ]
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:44:57AM -0600, Steven wrote:
> >
> >You no likey, you no usey!
> >
> I do hope you realize that Bob didn't post what you were replying
> too. :-)
Yes. I just replied to the list only.
>
> At this point, I'd like to chime in and say that I find the
> text-based OpenBSD
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:36:33AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
>
> As every release, many things are changed in the FAQ. Finding and
> changing the things that need to be changed occupies a LOT of my time
> between lock and release days.
Thanks, used often!!!
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:03:00AM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote:
> > $ sudo tip tty01
>
> Is this just for boot messages? It's my understanding (minimal, at
> that) that you can't do this for logins both directions because getty
> will tie up the port?
>
Nope, full access as connecting from tty01 o
On 2007/09/14 13:48, Trash Compactor wrote:
> L. V. Lammert wrote:
>> At 12:00 PM 9/14/2007 -0400, Trash Compactor wrote:
Alternatively, you can put puc(4) cards into an OpenBSD box or hook
up a tangle of ucom(4) adapters to a tree of powered USB hubs
>>> There are several multi-port USB-
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/09/14 12:55, Edwards, David (JTS) wrote:
Have you ever tried to do an install of FreeBSD/Linux using a 9600
serial console?
Oh thanks, I'd been trying to erase that from memory (-:
FreeBSD, 9600 serial, PXE boot. Took the best part of a da
Hi,
I have an OpenBSD 4.1 system running as a NAT firewall for our office and
unfortunately I have to support a couple of active
FTP clients on the inside of the firewall, so I've set up ftp-proxy. I've
never used ftp-proxy before and I've run into a problem with it.
I've set up ftp-proxy and p
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:13:05 -0700, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can appreciate your intentions, but you're recommending waging a
> propaganda campaign against a group of people that aren't going to be
> moved by it.
No, I'm asking you to protect your freedoms by expressing your distaste for
Right.. you can do your own with less distribution sets (without X for
example), but OpenBSD now releases a base iso for installation, you can
found this for the pre-release 4.2 at
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install42.iso if you wish
to try.
ps: Don't forget to ask you CD set
I can appreciate your intentions, but you're recommending waging a
propaganda campaign against a group of people that aren't going to be
moved by it.
Theo de Raadt is both knowledgeable, public, and straightforward, and
convincing a bunch of folks who are not also knowledgeable, public,
and straig
One of the other sysadmins where I work has mostly used Linux, and got
used to their various hand-holding tactics. I've been gradually moving
us over to OpenBSD (and got them to purchase a CD set, and hopefully
some meager donations soon). Usually, I handle the installation and
administration, but
I have never claimed to be all that smart, so maybe I don't
understand something. But I am wondering what this squabble
over what this license says or what that license says is all
about. My understanding of copywrite law is that the author
of a work owns the copywrite. Therefore, that owner can
The FreeBSD version can be runned with fbsd binary emulation, but adobe
doesn't release the flash plugin for fbsd system, just for Linux, that's why
most people need a Linux emulated host browser to run the binary flash
plugin.
So no reason to emulate the fbsd browser, use native firefox instead of
L. V. Lammert wrote:
At 12:00 PM 9/14/2007 -0400, Trash Compactor wrote:
Alternatively, you can put puc(4) cards into an OpenBSD box or hook
up a tangle of ucom(4) adapters to a tree of powered USB hubs
There are several multi-port USB-serial adapters available. You can
get bus-powered ones up
On Friday 14 September 2007 10:36, you wrote:
>As every release, many things are changed in the FAQ. Finding and
>changing the things that need to be changed occupies a LOT of my time
>between lock and release days.
Truly, thank you for your hard work.
One of the many things that keeps me buying
On 9/14/07, Trash Compactor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg Thomas wrote:
> > On 9/14/07, Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Darren Spruell wrote:
> >>
> >>> For the scenario where you have two openbsd hosts, one connected to
> >>> the second with a serial null modem cable, what is
On 9/14/07, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:29:44PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > | > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > | > >
> > | > > The spirit
On 2007/09/14 22:55, Insan Praja SW wrote:
> I have recently facing a problem when installing openBSD 4.0 on intel
> S3000AH, it seems that the embedded gigabit ethernet (em1) is causing this,
Try 4.1 and, if that's no help, a snapshot.
If that's still no help, try 'boot -c' at the boot loader
On 9/14/07, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> > | I don't establish *anything*. It's in the preamble.
> >
> > Your exact words are "that's in the preamble, which establishes the
> > spirit" (I left them in my reply
On 9/14/07, Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darren Spruell wrote:
> > For the scenario where you have two openbsd hosts, one connected to
> > the second with a serial null modem cable, what is the right device to
> > use when connecting using tip(1) from the first to a console on the
> >
On 9/14/07, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > I was wondering whether this - http://openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO -
> > FAQ entry should be changed as OpenBSD now does provide ISO for base
> > install?
>
> As every release, many things are changed in the FAQ. Finding and
>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:37:39 +0700, Sys.Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Sys Admin,
However, is this mean that I cannot, forever, use the em1 :D ?
Thanks again,
Hello Insan,
Friday, September 14, 2007, 8:55:21 AM, you wrote:
IPS> Dear all,
IPS> I have recently facing a problem when ins
* Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070914 03:15]:
Bob Beck wrote:
I hope one day soon OpenBSD will adopt a nice ncurses setup similar to
something like FreeBSD with ease to it.
As OpenBSD grows there simply is no reason, or logic to keeping around
such an archaic method of installation it now
Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A bit late too the discussion, but I have a similar issue with Opera
> on OpenBSD. As with yourself, I don't even have to go to a
> Flash-based site and Opera randomly freezes.
I'm seeing many freezes using Opera 9.02 on Linux. I don't think it's an
OBSD iss
At 12:00 PM 9/14/2007 -0400, Trash Compactor wrote:
Alternatively, you can put puc(4) cards into an OpenBSD box or hook
up a tangle of ucom(4) adapters to a tree of powered USB hubs
There are several multi-port USB-serial adapters available. You can get
bus-powered ones up to around 8 DB9
*OR
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 04:06:56PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:29:44PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
| > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > | > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > > T
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As we are on the subject and I do not want to deviate from the original
question, I would however appreciate suggestions as to how I can have a
one server witch can actually have up to 32 serial console to control
LOM on
Dear all,
I have recently facing a problem when installing openBSD 4.0 on intel
S3000AH, it seems that the embedded gigabit ethernet (em1) is causing
this, since openBSD installer trap a kernel panic message when it tried to
load the module. In some discussion, to troubleshoot this is to cha
Chris wrote:
> I was wondering whether this - http://openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO -
> FAQ entry should be changed as OpenBSD now does provide ISO for base
> install?
As every release, many things are changed in the FAQ. Finding and
changing the things that need to be changed occupies a LOT of my
Hey I checked out window(1)... doesn't seem like you can detach it,
logout, after 5 hours, log back in, retach, blah blah?
Or can you?
2007/9/13, Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jon Sjvstedt wrote:
>
> > Ok, thanks! Please dont kill me any more!:)
>
> Well one more:
>
>
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:29:44PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
|
"Fewer words", eh?
--
Jack J. Woehr
Director of Development
Ab
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:29:44PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> | > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> | > >
> | > > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.
> | >
> | > You don
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:50:45PM +, Sebastien Carlier wrote:
> Your point is that the BSD license is a "wrong" because it gives people
> too much freedom. You just stated this again, even more clearly than in
> your earlier message.
No, I never said the BSD license is wrong, you said that,
My $0.02...I've tried MANY different flavors of *BSD, Linux, etc. and I firmly
think that OpenBSD's installer is exactly as it should be. It works well and
doesn't need eye candy to make it work better. I can do a CD install in 20
minutes...you can't beat that. If you want more eye candy go try
* Bob Beck [2007-09-14 08:14]:
> * Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-14 02:58]:
> > Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> Doesn't this simply sound like making free software developers
> and users lose their freedoms and work they've authored? Who wins?
> probably the people who want to sell l
* Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-14 02:58]:
> Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> >
> >Look to me if a corporation wanted to kill the open source, they
> >couldn't pick a better way to do it and here the GPL is walking right
> >into it! Or may be some guys are well paid to create the problem and
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As we are on the subject and I do not want to deviate from the original
> question, I would however appreciate suggestions as to how I can have a
> one server witch can actually have up to 32 serial console to control
> LOM on Sun server. I may need u
Hi all
I'v looked through what documentation I could find, but didn't find this
case mentioned, so I assumed it would work (which it doesn't):
I have an OBSD 4.1 vpn gateway (A) with only one interface, over which
the default route points out and over which the packets to forward
through the
On 9/14/07, Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To stay informed of new features, please supply your support contract
> number on the page http://www.openbsd.org/update-me-when-stuff-is-done/
Unfortunately, 404 compliant.
--
"This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curios
On 9/13/07, Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't. The OpenBSD installer is a very underrated part of the
> overall user experience. What other OS can you install in 3 minutes
> flat? Keep it simple, stupid.
Oh noes, you don't understand. See, I have a shaggy dog tale that
demonstra
On 9/14/07, Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 07:09 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> >> GNUspeak:
> >
> > These are definitely not the views of the GNU project. They *might* be
> > views of the self-styled "Linux nerds" that think they are "k00l"
I'm not using GENERIC.MP and Firefox freezes with the flash plugin..
But I really don't know if the problem is the flash plugin, I tried getting
one at adobe site, latest firefox and firefox crashes when I enter some page
that has no flash media. (firefox running with linux binary emulation :)
I'm
Thank you!
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:05:06AM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:40:44AM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> >
> > Can someone clarify the difference between /dev/tty00 and /dev/cua00?
> >
>
> to some extent these are documented in tty(4).
> jmc
--
/ Raimo N
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> I installed FreeBSD once in my life. Took me 3 tries and I am sure some
> kittens were murdered in the process. I am also pretty sure I wept at
> some point. Honestly I can't remember a much worse installer; maybe SCO
> OpenServer but not by much.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > >
| > > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.
| >
| > You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*
| > than the GPL
On 2007-09-14 12:24:25, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:24:25 +0100
> From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Sebastien Carlier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, misc@openbsd.org,
> Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Actually I do get the point that you are not talking about.
In my point of view, the GPL has NOT kept you from being a social failure.
You are what you see --- I sincerely hope not.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rui Miguel Silva S
I stopped and thought.
You are confused.
All your issues are confused.
My insane opinion is much more valid than yours.
Are you Tweedledee or Tweedledum?
Do you even know who you are?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rui Miguel Silva
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:27:51AM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> >> | I don't establish *anything*. It's in the preamble.
> >>
> >> Your exact words are "that's in the preamble, which establishes the
Thanks Theo, my pseudo device works!
On 9/13/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In which OpenBSD file do I define the major number for devices (both
> > regular and pseudo-device)? I have searched in several sources, and
> > the closest answer was for NetBSD, which says that major nu
Paul de Weerd wrote:
I'm afraid not. It must be a "real" serial port, supported by the BIOS
and all that stuff. You can run a getty on a USB->serial adapter, but
console must be the real thing.
That makes perfect sense with the BIOS, thanks!
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:39:10AM +, Sebastien Carlier wrote:
> Rui,
>
> On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> >
> > The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.
>
> You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*
> than the GPL becaus
On Sep 14, 2007, at 5:33 AM, Lars Noodin wrote:
Nice troll. There are some valid points. It is in this case that the
interaction between the different open source licensing groups does
*still* after all these years need to be smoothed out.
This has little to do with the community and EVERYTH
Rui,
On 2007-09-14 11:13:11, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>
> The spirit of the GNU GPL is to maintain freedom for all users.
You don't seem to get the fact that the BSD license is *more free*
than the GPL because the BSD license imposes *fewer requirements*
on distribution.
Do you seriously b
PS: From http://wiki.freebsd.org/finstall/Amnesiac
"the "novice" track, meaning as little interaction with the user as possible"
This is what I meant...
2007/9/14, Pau Amaro-Seoane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Please don't touch the installer. It's just perfect.
>
> I have tried tons of different un
Please don't touch the installer. It's just perfect.
I have tried tons of different unix/linux OS's before I saw The Light
and, pay attention, NONE of them was as reliable/robust/quick as
OpenBSD's
And guess... FreeBSD is getting a graphical installer:
http://blogs.freebsdish.org/ivoras/2007/08/
On 5/28/07, joshua stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have tpb set to run as a daemon from ~/.xinitrc. The volume mute/down/up
> > buttons work, but none of the Fn buttons do except for the thinklight.
> > On-screen display also does not work. Is this something I can fix with a
> > simple confi
No, according to your last email copncerning the introduction to the GPL,
the purpose is to make people daft and unsorted.
Are you Tweedledee or Tweedledum?
Please sort yourself.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rui Miguel Silva Sea
Nice troll. There are some valid points. It is in this case that the
interaction between the different open source licensing groups does
*still* after all these years need to be smoothed out.
However, keep in mind that
1) a license is simply another tool
2) some[1] outside FOSS w
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:16:46AM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
| Henning Brauer wrote:
| >there are multiport usb-serial adapters. and of course you can use
| >multiple of them.
| >
|
| This may be really really stupid, but for Mac minis that have no serial
| ports listed in their dmesg (e.g:
| htt
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
>> | I don't establish *anything*. It's in the preamble.
>>
>> Your exact words are "that's in the preamble, which establishes the
>> spirit" (I left them in my reply so you can see for yourself). So the
Daft?
Nobody here defended that (the GPL)?
Are you tweedledee or tweedledum?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:33 AM
> To: Tony Abernethy
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbs
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 08:36:11AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
| On 2007/09/14 12:55, Edwards, David (JTS) wrote:
| > Have you ever tried to do an install of FreeBSD/Linux using a 9600
| > serial console?
|
| Oh thanks, I'd been trying to erase that from memory (-:
| FreeBSD, 9600 serial, PXE
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> | I don't establish *anything*. It's in the preamble.
>
> Your exact words are "that's in the preamble, which establishes the
> spirit" (I left them in my reply so you can see for yourself). So the
> spirit is established. I can play
Henning Brauer wrote:
there are multiport usb-serial adapters. and of course you can use
multiple of them.
This may be really really stupid, but for Mac minis that have no serial
ports listed in their dmesg (e.g:
http://erdelynet.com/tech/openbsd/openbsd-on-intel-mac-mini/) could you
use a
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 08:42:13AM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
| > | 1. that's in the preamble, which establishes the spirit
| > | 2. 4 paragraphs below you read:
| > |
| > | The precise terms and conditions for copying, distribution and
| > | modification follow.
| > |
| > | 3. later
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