Re: [MeeGo-dev] Debian Packaging Meego Working Group

2010-03-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Feb 27, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Fathi Boudra wrote: >> it isn't clear on the wiki page: the working group will use Meego >> infrastructure based on OBS to do a deb/apt based Meego instance, right? > > Yes. We want to stay close the Meego infras

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fw: Proposal: MeeGo User Experience Framework working group

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 3, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Randall Arnold wrote: >> >> I've seen alot of bug tools in my time trying to do >> to the same, I have to say that the matching algorithm usually works >> when the user scores exactly to the same wording or set of words, and >> in my experience the bugs that were sugge

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some questions about the Technical Steering Group & TSG meetings

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 4, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Imad, > > Sousou, Imad wrote: >> to be honest with you, both Valtteri and I are spending 200% of our time >> getting the initial MeeGo sources out so there is something to ground >> the discussions... > > ... > >> Your question presumes a s

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Perl / CPAN integration on MeeGo?

2010-03-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:01 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > I'm doing some Perl development and would like to port my code to MeeGo. How > is the integration of Perl and CPAN going to be handled? Will it resemble > openSUSE, Fedora/Red Hat, Debian/Ubuntu, Gentoo or something else? A lot of pe

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What are you waiting for to happen in MeeGo?

2010-03-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:31 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > wrote: > >> keyboards and more RAM / CPU power? Am I stuck with C++ for efficiency >> reasons, or can I get away with a scripting language? And which scripting >> languages are going t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What are you waiting for to happen in MeeGo? (perl stuff)

2010-03-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 3/8/2010 9:32, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: >> >>> >>> The perl interpreter is also on the N900, version 5.8.3 >> >> What are the odds of 5.10 or 5.12 making it into MeeGo? I can live with >> 5.8, I think, but I've been on 5.10 so long

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Perl / CPAN integration on MeeGo?

2010-03-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:16 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: >> btw I would really like to have some good tooling, that would make it >> basically automatic to create a package for a (sane) CPAN project, >> in a way that it is a good, valid and clean package. We can then build a >> 2nd layer of tool

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Perl / CPAN integration on MeeGo?

2010-03-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 3/9/2010 2:31, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> >> On Mar 8, 2010, at 7:16 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: >> >>>> btw I would really like to have some good tooling, that would make it >>>> basica

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Perl / CPAN integration on MeeGo?

2010-03-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 3/9/2010 2:31, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >>> >>> I guess we should start talking about this stuff on the openSUSE Build >>> Service mailing list - I think I'm still on it, although I'm sort of >&

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-community] First MeeGo Repository Working Group Meeting

2010-03-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > ext Andreas Osowski wrote: >> Hello everyone, I shall announce to you the first meego repository >> working group meeting. Based upon the votes received so far it'll be >> on Sunday next week (21. March). The time has yet to be decided upon;

[MeeGo-dev] OBS and MeeGo

2010-03-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, On the MeeGo wiki it says "ARM port is currently being maintained in the OBS project devel:arch:arm." But I cannot find any trace of this on the OBS. May I ask someone to provide a URL to view builds or to watch the project? Thank you, Jeremiah _

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-community] First MeeGo Repository Working Group Meeting

2010-03-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Anas Nashif wrote: > On 2010-03-15, at 6:52 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Quim Gil wrote: >>> ext Andreas Osowski wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Scope and area of this working group

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-community] First MeeGo Repository Working Group Meeting

2010-03-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Anas Nashif wrote: * Do developers upload to the repos? >> >>> No, That is done by release engineers, developers submit their changes and >>> if they go in they will be part of the repos. >> >> Who are the "release engineers"? Are these people

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-community] First MeeGo Repository Working Group Meeting

2010-03-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > * Do developers upload to the repos? No, That is done by release engineers, developers submit their changes andif they go in they will be part of the repos. >>> >>> Who are the "release engineers"? Are these people chosen by

Re: [MeeGo-dev] qtcreatore+madde

2010-03-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Sousou, Imad wrote: >> Em Terça-feira 16 Março 2010, às 14:14:20, Sam Komfi escreveu: >>> Hi >>> >>> Just curious if Gtk+ is also allowed?(if Qt is not the prefered toolkit). >>> Because the framework mentions that Qt or Gtk/Clutter can be used. >> GTK+ will almost

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Erik Hovland wrote: >> I was looking at getting an N900, which I presume will be the target >> device initially for meego. > > You would presume correctly (regardless of recent incorrect rumors). This is incorrect. The N900 is not going to be a "target" for MeeGo. W

Re: [MeeGo-dev] First MeeGo Repository Working Group Meeting

2010-03-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:41 AM, David Greaves wrote: > Sousou, Imad wrote: >> >>> On Behalf Of Dave Neary >>> So, to rephrase the question Anas, are you aware of an independent >>> repository which will be available to community developers to upload >>> their applications & make it easy for MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-18 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 18, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Abraham Arce wrote: > Hi, > >> Jeremiah, I'm quoting you below but my comment is not directed at you >> personally. There seems to be some logical contradiction here. >> >> If Nokia abandoned Maemo development (supposedly the OS for their >> flagship mobile device)

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> I guess backporting a lot >> of development that happens in MeeGo to the N900 is not in Nokia's >> plans at the moment. > > The N900 is a MeeGo reference platform. This

Re: [MeeGo-dev] First Repository Working Group Meeting @ Sun 21 March - 20:00 UTC

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
So the meeting was held 48 hours after being announced? Can we please get more advanced notice than this? Jeremiah On Mar 19, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Andreas Osowski wrote: > Hello everyone, > the results from doodle are in and we've decided to go for > the 20:00 UTC option [1]. > It will be held in

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Open drivers (was Re: N900 Questions...)

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Quim Gil wrote: >> >> The fact is that now Intel and Nokia are together. They can obtain >> these components, even without money. > > Do you mean that without money one can write the best drivers for latest > hardware? Sure. I think there is a standing offer from L

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em Segunda-feira 22. Março 2010, às 03.52.45, Robinson Tryon escreveu: >> All joking aside, I agree that there are vendors out there whose >> drivers are non-free, but I think that this is definitely a problem >> that can be side-stepped. When

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Open drivers (was Re: N900 Questions...)

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:55 AM, wrote: >> >> From: Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) >> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:57 AM >> To: ext Adrian Yanes >> Cc: Alhola Kate (Nokia-FNDC/Helsinki); meego-dev@meego.com >> Subject: Open drivers (was Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 Questions...

2010-03-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: > 2010/3/22 Jeremiah Foster : >> >> On Mar 19, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Carsten Munk wrote: >> >>> 2. We are willing to compromise on our ideology short-term and in the >>> long-term help hardware vendors toward

Re: [MeeGo-dev] The nativer rendering model proposal in Fennec

2010-03-23 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 23, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 3/22/2010 22:53, Wu, Yong wrote: >> Background: >> Fennec uses a different rendering model as Firefox, > > I would be seriously concerned about using either Firefox or Fennec on a > mobile device. Fennec (or really Firefox Mobile) is po

[MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-SDK] Thoughts on automated testing (was Re: Introduction)

2010-03-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
> > On Mar 25, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Ville Ilvonen wrote: > >> On 3/25/10 10:13 AM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ville Ilvonen >>> wrote: On 3/23/10 12:40 PM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote: > > How do you think we can combine manual efforts into t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-community] ANNOUNCE: Proposal for a Repository working group

2010-03-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mar 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, 08:37:43 BST, quim@nokia.com wrote: >> >> It sounds like a good description of the goals of the "Extras / Downloads >> team" >> (final name to be defined) proposed at >> http://wiki.meego.com/Community_working_group#We

[MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, No surprise here but the MeeGo TSG has decided it does not want to provide any official resources to the Debian community to help with porting / maintaining software inside MeeGo to Debian. See the proposal's wiki page for more information. This may turn out to be a Good

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Glen Gray wrote: > On 07/04/10 11:23, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> Hello, >> >> No surprise here but the MeeGo TSG has decided it does not want to >> provide any official resources to the Debian community to help with porting >&

Re: [MeeGo-dev] why do not the patches work well ??

2010-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:09 PM, wrote: > > Question 3: why do people have to fiddle with patches when it’s a git > repository, and as such it can just have branches? So that one can trace where the code comes from. Jeremiah > > Best regards, > Mikhail > > From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bdale Garbee wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:23:46 +0200, Jeremiah Foster > wrote: >> I suppose a Debian working group inside MeeGo is not really needed > > I suggest you request a debian-meego mailing list on lists.debian.org, > and pr

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 7, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Graham Cobb wrote: > On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:35:49 Dave Joubert wrote: >> 1) We should apply our brains to getting Debian to boot and run on as >> many pieces of kit as possible. >> >> Take for example the O2 Joggler; it is a reasonably capable machine >> (esp a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 08:56:40AM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:23:46 +0200, Jeremiah Foster >> wrote: >>> I suppose a Debian working group inside MeeGo is not really needed >> >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Proposal for a Debian working group denied

2010-04-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 4/8/2010 5:39, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > >> Well there are things like fastboot too which might be nice to package. In >> any case, I'll join the alioth project. > > sorry you're hitting a pet peeve

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Talk on using Tracker at ELC

2010-04-11 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 10, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Rob Taylor wrote: > Hi all, > > I'll be giving a talk on using Tracker at this weeks ELC 2010 conference this > Wednesday, called "Semantic data storage for mobile devices". > > If you are interested in learning more about this core component of Meego's > data ma

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Talk on using Tracker at ELC

2010-04-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
e. > > Best Regards, > Rob > > On 11/04/10 03:41, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> >> On Apr 10, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Rob Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'll be giving a talk on using Tracker at this weeks ELC 2010 conference

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some error meesages about installing rpm when I create the image

2010-04-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:37 AM, wrote: > > There are some error messages when I try to create the arm-n900 image. > > Error: failed to create image : Failed to execute %post script with '/bin/sh' > : No such file or directory > > I don't know why it happens. Could someone tell me the root caus

Re: [MeeGo-dev] how to start developing on MeeGo?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Dengyi Wang wrote: > On 04/16/2010 01:50 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:33:40AM -0400, Dengyi Wang wrote: >> >>> Personally, I prefer Fedora 12. I believe it's more close to MeeGo's image. >>> (RPM based). Any comments? >>> >> Why not just us

Re: [MeeGo-dev] mic.imgcreate.errors.MountError

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Steven Tao wrote: > I still got the 0.17 version from > git://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator.git > Where can I get the latest version? For MIC that is the latest version. Jeremiah___ MeeGo-dev mailing

[MeeGo-dev] Why mic? Why not just release images?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, I find using mic an unnecessary step when I want to get a MeeGo image. Can MeeGo please just build images and make them available for download? I realize; 1. The goal is to be able to quickly re-build with fresh sources all the time using kickstart files, etc.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Why mic? Why not just release images?

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 19, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Carsten Munk wrote: > 2010/4/19 Jeremiah Foster : >>None of those reasons out weigh the usefulness and simplicity of >> being able to quickly download a complete, finished image. May I ask that >> MeeGo provide this? >> >>

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Repository Working Group - next steps

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:24 AM, David Greaves wrote: > > > So is this area managed by the core project? > How can it be? MeeGo core is a distro, not an app-store or sourceforge. It has > no policies or processes for handling non-affiliated applications. There isn't > even community access to the co

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Transitional development questions

2010-04-26 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Apr 26, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Ali-Reza Anghaie wrote: >> - There is no reason to expect DEB support to creep into other MeeGo >> "instances" outside of the Maemo 6 release, correct? RPM is it and there >> is no confusion about that moving forward, yes? > > As I under

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Packaging the MeeGo stack on Debian - Use the name ?

2010-12-13 Thread Jeremiah Foster
David Greaves wrote; >> We would ask you to move away from using {M,m}-e-e-{G,g}-o or any subset >> of those letters or sounds in that order, alone or in combination with >> other letters, words or marks that would tend to cause someone to make a >> reasonable connection of the reference with th

Re: [MeeGo-dev] meegomusic issue

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, umang gupta wrote: > Hi All , Hi Umang, > I am using Meego - IVI platform systems on one of my hardware embedded > boards Can you provide some more details? Like what architecture and which chip you are using, etc. > I've installed following packages into file

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Is MeeGo a Google product?

2010-12-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Tomasz, On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: > This just came on #meego @freenode > > [16:36:26] welfg: meego is google's company? > [16:36:39] thiago: no > [...] > [16:41:40] welfg: Download.MeeGo v1.1 for Netbooks (Google Chrome Browser) > [16:41:50] welfg: This release requ

[MeeGo-dev] mic2 error when building new image

2011-01-31 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, I've started to test the kickstart file I posted to meego-ivi previously. Available here: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-ivi/attachments/20110131/ebcedff5/attachment.obj Note: I've removed the harbaum repo in case that was an issue, still get the same result. It is giving me problems

[MeeGo-dev] glibc vs. eglibc

2011-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, Is there a reason that MeeGo uses the Red Hat version of glibc[0] versus the GNU version of glibc[1]? It seems eglibc is more appropriate for embedded systems. 0. http://sources.redhat.com/glibc/ 1. http://www.eglibc.org/home -- Jeremiah ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] glibc vs. eglibc

2011-02-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
None of the replies answers the question, which I'll repeat; is there a reason why MeeGo uses one and not the other? On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 at 15:27:02 +0100, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > Is there a reason that MeeGo uses the Red

Re: [MeeGo-dev] netbook kernel compilation

2011-02-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Mark S. Townsley wrote: > > Hi: >> >> I have Meego 1.1 on a netbook and with kernel 2.6.35.3.10.3-netbook. >> I need to re-compile the kernel to turn on deadline IO. Via zypper, I >> installed kernel-netbo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Building meego input methods

2011-02-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > Hello, > > On Thursday, February 17, 2011 02:39:59 am naresh nallamothu > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I Installed Qt 4.7.0 on ubuntu10.04 and able to build > > libmeegotouch and meegotouch-theme components > > > > But while building inp

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Some architecture changes (MSSF / Buteo / PIM storage)

2011-03-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Hi, > > given the events of the last few weeks, the MeeGo architects have, and still > are, revisiting various parts of the MeeGo architecture. Aside from this thread, where does this discussion happen? How do others engage? > Having said

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MIC2][ANNOUNCEMENT] mic2 release 0.24.5

2011-03-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, Thanks Yi for the email and the work on mic2. I have a question regarding the new version: what is the version number? I ask because I am using mic2 from git and the git tag says 0.24.7 but calling mic2-image-creator --version says 0.24.4 while the announced release is 0.24.5. Thanks, Jerem

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Architecture decisions (was Re: migration (back) to EDS)

2011-03-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > A quick note on meritocracies. > > Andrew Flegg wrote: >> According to Imad Sousou at the last TSG meeting[1], the MeeGo >> Technical Steering Group consists of two seats: >> >>   * Intel (Imad Sousou) >>   * Nokia (currently vacant aft

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo qemu minimal console image howto

2011-03-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ameya Palande wrote: > Hi, > > I have created a small howto for creating a minimal MeeGo Qemu console > image. > > http://wiki.meego.com/Minimal_image > > Comments/Suggestions/Contributions are welcome! Thanks for doing this! A couple questions the link on the wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Unable to get image-creator

2011-03-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Perambalam, Sivaguru wrote: > Hello, > > I get the following error while I try to download mic2 image-creator > > > > speramba@siva-desktop:~/Meego$ git clone > git://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator.git > > Initialized empty Git repository in /

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Cannot login to Gerrit

2011-03-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Perambalam, Sivaguru wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am trying to setup my Linux host (Ubuntu 10.04 x64) for Meego dev. > > I was following instructions on http://moblin.intel.com/wiki/Umgsetup You're using Moblin documentation for MeeGo. You may want to look at more r

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo qemu minimal console image howto

2011-03-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Ameya Palande wrote: > On 03/24/2011 04:16 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ameya Palande >>> I have created a small howto for creating a minimal MeeGo Qemu console >>> image. >>> >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Technical Steering Group Meeting: New Day / Time

2011-04-02 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote: > I wanted to let everyone know that we have a new time for our Technical > Steering Group meetings. While the 20:00 UTC meetings were convenient for the > Americas and Europe, it was very difficult for people in Asia to participate. Can you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Technical Steering Group Meeting: New Day / Time

2011-04-02 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote: > On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Foster, Dawn M >> wrote: >>> I wanted to let everyone know that we have a new time for our Technical >>> Steering

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Technical Steering Group Meeting: New Day / Time

2011-04-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 3 de April de 2011 01:15:18 Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> By what measure? Most of the people on the mailing lists are from >> Europe and US. Are we talking corporate head counts or developer >> participation? &g

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Technical Steering Group Meeting: New Day / Time

2011-04-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: > On Sun Apr   3 2011 01:15:18 AM CEST, Jeremiah Foster > wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Foster, Dawn M >> wrote: >> > On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote >> > > On Fri,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-SDK] About Meego Handset for armv7l

2011-04-05 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Wang Qiang wrote: > Hello All, > > > > I am making meego handset for armv7l work on BeagleTouch board. > > > > I have finished porting the kernel and building the rootfs. > > > > I just followed the instruction in > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beaglebo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego source building error

2011-04-25 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:23 AM, venkatesh wrote: > Hi, > > We are trying to build the meego source code using kickstart file: > > For building using kickstart file we are following the procedure mentioned > in > this link: http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation. > > but while executing the comman

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: [MeeGo-ivi] Kernel for 1.2

2011-04-27 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 4/26/2011 5:54 PM, Nasa wrote: [...] > there isn't really *the* ivi kernel. > Each platform (as per TSG decision) has the freedom to pick its own kernel > version, as long as it is compatible with the reference kernel > and as long as

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, I'd like to discuss a specific area of compliance for IVI systems. Before I get to the subject matter, I'd like to know if I'm following the correct process so I can address the right people. My first stop was the MeeGo wiki where I searched for Compliance and arrived here: http://wiki.meeg

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Counihan, Tom wrote: [...] >> >> Does that mean the IVI compliance specification is independent of the >> overall MeeGo compliance specification? > > Mark gives a great insight into the compliance structure here: > http://conference2010.meego.com/session/app-comp

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > meego-architecture-boun...@lists.meego.com wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to discuss a specific area of compliance for IVI systems. >> Before I get to the subject matter, I'd like to know if I'm following >> the correct process so I can ad

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > meego-architecture-boun...@lists.meego.com wrote: > >> That document has a version number very similar to the MeeGo version >> numbers. Does that mean they track each other? Or is that just a >> coincidence? If they follow each other, are t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-architecture] MeeGo Compliance, specifically IVI

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote: > >> So compliance gets defined, then one might say it gets "validated" by >> being made concrete in the package "patterns?" This seems to present a >> logical process that one can follow. > > to be clear,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] 1.1 and 1.2 Compliance

2011-05-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote: > > http://www.meego.com/Quality/Compliance_Implementation > > hope that's of some use... and of course here too > comments are more than welcome. That is giving me a 404 error currently. ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] creating image for oaktrail platform using mic-image-creator

2011-07-07 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:52 PM, bradleyyan wrote: > On 07/07/2011 03:24 PM, bradleyyan wrote: >> >> On 07/07/2011 11:30 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >>> >>> On 7/6/2011 7:30 PM, bradleyyan wrote: It is my mistake,I forgetten to install install related packages. >>> >>> also make sure to u

Re: [MeeGo-dev] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-02 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:44 AM, David Greaves wrote: > cc'ed meego-dev as this may be of interest. Followup to meego-community > please. > > Over the past few weeks a few of us who have been involved in the MeeGo > community infrastructure have been trying to solve a problem relating to > MeeGo Ap

Re: [MeeGo-dev] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/02/2011 11:59 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:44 AM, David Greaves  wrote: >>> >>> "The Linux Foundation have told us in private conversations that they >>

Re: [MeeGo-dev] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
:) I have no idea what you're now trying to say. Are you saying; "It's okay that I forked the official apps for MeeGo!" Because forking is generally considered a Bad Thing. > On 03/08/11 10:05, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > >> Hardly cheap Dave. I'd say its rather exp

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:27 PM, wrote: > > >From: meego-community-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-community- > >boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of David Greaves > > > >> David Greaves has done the > >> only logical thing when you hit an impasse; fork. > > > >I certainly wouldn't consider it a fork -

Re: [MeeGo-dev] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:43 AM, David Greaves wrote: > On 03/08/11 20:12, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:55 PM, David Greaves > <mailto:da...@dgreaves.com>> wrote: >> >>Take a deep breath Jeremiah :) >> meh. The ad hominem at

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 08:44, David Greaves wrote: > > > > "The Linux Foundation have told us in private conversations that they > will > > not permit apps.meego.com to be served from the MeeGo.com > infrastructure > > hosted by them. They

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Speech Recognition on MeeGo

2011-08-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM, manikanta gupta wrote: > HI > > I am newbie and > > I am trying to run the sampe application of speechrecogintion of ivi on > scrathbox .I have taken the source files of the pocketsphinx and sphinxbase > from the following source > http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Speech Recognition on MeeGo

2011-08-11 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:02 AM, manikanta gupta wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Jeremiah Foster < > jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM, manikanta gupta wrote: >> >>> >>> >> So I'

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adding Repo to OBS

2011-08-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Nasa wrote: > > > Rudi > > > Thanks Rudi, > > I will have to take a read.  I obviously didn't explain what I was after > very well.  On the > https://build.pub.meego.com/project/add_repository_from_default_list?project=home%3Anasa > page there a list of repositorie

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adding Repo to OBS

2011-08-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Nasa wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Nasa wrote: >> > >> > > Rudi >> > > >> > Thanks Rudi, >> > >> > I will have to take a read.  I obviously didn't explain what I was >> > after >> > very well.  On the >> > https://build.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adding Repo to OBS

2011-08-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Nasa wrote: > So, > > I continued to try and get this to work...  I came across somethings - > build.meego.com == MeeGo.com:xxx  (for trunk it's > MeeGo.com:Trunk). Wow, interesting, I didn't know that. So anything that ends up in the build repos can be used to bu

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for > > instance > > Something like this I guess: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ > > http://www.w3.o

Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Florent, Your frustration is understandable, but somewhat misplaced. It is entirely okay to change the branding and governance of MeeGo, or any project. Open Source licenses say nothing about project governance as long as the licenses are respected. Much of MeeGo is under an Open Source license

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard wrote: > The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted > languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled > languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards, Jeremiah

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Peter Jespersen wrote: > Den 29-09-2011 00:46, Clint Christopher Cañada skrev: > > It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, >> that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about >> Meego in some other engageme

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > > > LiFo owns "MeeGo" and won't let us the name, to be sure, > > I'm not so sure about that, and nothing stops us from asking. The > worst that can happen is that we're told "no", and have to come up > with a new name. > Why would you want

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:40 PM, wrote: > Dave wrote: > > and at best an improvement (HTML5 vs QML). > > Fwiw QML doesn't stop any HTML5 improvement. In fact it plays perfectly > well with HTML & Javascript next to its neighbor QtWebKit, and bridges web > development with native development (if y

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-10-03 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > > > > This is what is important to remember; that Qt and its ecosystem will > likely "just work" on Tizen. But, and this is a big but, will Nokia try

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: > > Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but only when > > you're doing Debian and Debian only. > Except it was built by Canonical for Ubuntu and is used by Linaro. But

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com < karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > This is just my 0.02 cents. I would think it should be done like this: > > - Take the debian based distro and development environment (that works) as > a basis. It works. Look at H

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Tom Swindell wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:58 +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg > > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk > > wrote: > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Samuel Stirtzel wrote: [snip] > > 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster : > >> OBS is built with packaging in mind, so it builds packages locally and > >> on servers in a sanitized environment. Scratchbox may be polluted by > >> whatever packa

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster
> just continure the current running stack. It saves time and people know how to handle it. > *sigh* > > regards, > > Stefan > > > Jeremiah Foster hat am 4. Oktober 2011 um > 14:03 > geschrieben: > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, karoliina.t.sal

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Stefan Werden wrote: > Jeremiah Foster hat am 4. Oktober 2011 um > 20:42 > geschrieben: > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Stefan Werden > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > switching to debian would

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Samuel Stirtzel wrote: > > 2011/10/4 Jeremiah Foster : > >> Can a mobile > >> segment distro like MeeGo be really compared with a desktop segment > >> distro like e.g. embedded Ubuntu? (This is not relative to your > >>

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
If you guys are serious about this, create a company. Then you can sign NDA's which you'll need when you approach the commercial hardware developers. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Peter Jespersen wrote: > Den 06-10-2011 07:11, Carsten Munk skrev: >> >> Den her kan jeg vidst godt svare på dansk

Re: [MeeGo-dev] The future for the MeeGo OBS

2011-10-12 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi, Everyone on this list ought to recognize that you have the legal right to fork the source code and that others have the legal right to ignore you. Its time to move on and to focus on more constructive things. Regards, Jeremiah On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, David Greaves wrote: > I'm so

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Cross compilation tools (Was: MeeGo Reconstructed)

2011-10-21 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Carsten Munk wrote: > 2011/10/21 Lauri T. Aarnio : >> >> On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote: >> >> That is in fact what we did for an experimental SB2-based SDK for Harmattan. >> There are even two perls, the ARM version and the x86 version (both

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