[mailop] lost connection with amazon-smtp.amazon.com

2017-08-07 Thread Doug Barton
Trying to help someone on another team debug a problem with connection to Amazon. The sender domain has accurate SPF, and mail is being accepted at most sites (including notoriously picky ones like Google). However when they try to send to Amazon they get an error message: "lost connection wit

Re: [mailop] lost connection with amazon-smtp.amazon.com

2017-08-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 2017-08-07 14:09, Steve Atkins wrote: Try connecting manually to the MX from a shell on the smarthost too. If they can connect to port 25 and get a banner that's a very useful data point. https://wordtothewise.com/2010/06/basic-email-delivery-telnet/ This is not definitive because I don't

Re: [mailop] lost connection with amazon-smtp.amazon.com

2017-08-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 2017-08-07 15:25, Eric Tykwinski wrote: On Aug 7, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Doug Barton wrote: On 2017-08-07 14:09, Steve Atkins wrote: Try connecting manually to the MX from a shell on the smarthost too. If they can connect to port 25 and get a banner that's a very useful data point.

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-25 Thread Doug Barton
Y'all might want to be aware that this issue is being discussed on the NANOG list. In the age of Let's Encrypt expired TLS certs are a really bad look. On 9/12/18 6:24 AM, Matt Gilbert via mailop wrote: Hey gang, I was showing mailop to a new member of my team, and when I went to show them w

Re: [mailop] Expired SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-29 Thread Doug Barton
So leaving aside the discussion of specific TLS solutions, how do we get the list admin on the line to fix this? On 10/25/18 8:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote: Y'all might want to be aware that this issue is being discussed on the NANOG list. In the age of Let's Encrypt expired TLS c

Re: [mailop] Multiple mail server setup

2015-03-01 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/1/15 2:47 PM, John Levine wrote: (1) example.com. MX 23 primary.example.com. example.com. MX 42 backup.example.com. backup.example.com. A/ backup.example.com. A/ Here I presume you meant to have two A records for primary.example.com. A n

Re: [mailop] Multiple mail server setup

2015-03-01 Thread Doug Barton
That's a different category of problem. :) Obviously when you get large enough you want to have more than one critical facility. But the idea of a "main" data center and a "backup" data center is very 20th Century. Hot/hot with well-tested failover procedures is the way to go. Doug On 3/1/1

Re: [mailop] Multiple mail server setup

2015-03-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/1/15 11:07 PM, Dave Warren wrote: On 2015-03-01 17:56, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 10:47:12PM -, John Levine wrote: By the way, why do you have a backup MX? [snip] He's right. There's no reason for this anymore. All MX's should be precisely equivalent in terms of

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/29/15 5:34 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: If they all point to much the same cluster of servers, it simply means those servers get retried two or three times per set of MX lookups. It is a quick and dirty hack but well, it works fairly fine without treating a single failure as a timeout

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/29/15 9:09 PM, Michael Wise wrote: Also, just so you know, bug or feature, you decide: Something about your message caused my Outlook Mobile to crash when I tried to reply at first. Perhaps this is by design, I don't know. No, it was almost certainly the PGP/MIME signature I mentioned in

Re: [mailop] Possible sendmail name resolution issues triggered by hotmail.com zone change

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Barton
, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone -------- From: Doug Barton <mailto:dougb@dougbarton.email> Sent: ‎5/‎29/‎2015 9:33 PM To: Michael Wise <mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com>; mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org> Subj

Re: [mailop] TLS/SSL DROWN attack with respect to email servers

2016-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/02/2016 06:01 PM, Franck Martin via mailop wrote: This tool is cool for finding issues on mail servers https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers Neat tool, thanks for sharing. :) Doug ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

2016-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
I don't see it listed there ... On 03/08/2016 06:40 AM, Franck Martin via mailop wrote: The outage is listed at https://ianix.com/pub/dnssec-outages.html On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Vick Khera mailto:vi...@khera.org>> wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Carl Byington mailto:c...@f

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

2016-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
host isn't really designed for DNS debugging, beyond telling you what your resolver chain knows about the record you're asking for. In your examples it is helpfully showing you what it does know about the record, which it its PTR. In your dig example you're getting exactly what you asked for,

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

2016-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
No worries :) On 03/08/2016 01:28 PM, Michael Wise wrote: Yes, noticed the ARIN involvement, and went to wash my hands, so to speak. It's been a while since I was mucking about with DNS stuffs... Aloha, Michael. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mai

Re: [mailop] Google DNS Servers not returning results for Hotmail today?

2016-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
Further info: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2016-March/030726.html ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

[mailop] Webmail

2016-04-03 Thread Doug Barton
Sorry if this is off topic, but I'm just curious what folks are using for webmail nowadays. Doug ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

[mailop] httpoxy

2016-07-19 Thread Doug Barton
So this seems bad if you are running any kind of CGI (especially PHP, say on a webmail platform) where a user might call out to a third party URL. https://httpoxy.org (https://httpoxy.org) ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/25/2017 06:36 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/24/2017 09:44 PM, John Levine wrote: Sure, but the arguments we're seeing at ICANN are way beyond reasonable. Everyone thinks it's important to protect the personal information of people, but most domains are not registered by people. Tha

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/25/2017 04:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And maybe figure out which registrar it is that is trying to steal their customers and using whatever process ICANN has to stop them. I'm not familiar with the issue that you're referring to. On 26-Mar-2017, at 2:00 AM, D

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
FYI, you removed the attribution of the statement you're replying to here. That's generally considered rude in e-mail list circles. On 03/25/2017 05:02 PM, Al Iverson wrote: And to John's objection to privacy for companies in another message, your outlook is unrealistic. It's often very importan

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
John, I know you know better than to remove the attribution of the quote you're replying to ... On 03/25/2017 05:20 PM, John Levine wrote: When it comes to privacy I'm much more concerned about the most vulnerable folks not being required to publish their residential address and personal phone

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

2017-03-26 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/26/2017 01:58 PM, John Levine wrote: But I can't help noticing that people keep trying to change the topic. Not changing the topic, refuting your statement that no one needs their own domain name to communicate on the Internet. Once again, nobody* has a problem with privacy protection

[mailop] Fwd: Obsolete NSA exploit for Postfix 2.0 - 2.2

2017-04-10 Thread Doug Barton
FYI Forwarded Message Subject: Obsolete NSA exploit for Postfix 2.0 - 2.2 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 16:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Wietse Venema To: Postfix users CC: Postfix announce A recent twitter post reveals the existence of an exploit for Postfix, in a collection of what app

[mailop] BIMI

2019-12-04 Thread Doug Barton via mailop
I'm starting to see requests for BIMI DNS records from clients. Is it a thing yet? I'm not opposed to being an early (or early'ish) adopter, but are there any caveats? Has anyone gone through the Verified Mark Certificate process? Any other thoughts? Doug _