Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail reporting to us that a mail has been declared as SPAM by a recpient, but... ?

2019-06-28 Thread Brielle via mailop
The amount of people who treat the Spam button as a Delete button is staggering. *gives AOL death stares* It’s a big enough problem for me currently that we’ve got users who mark our invoices as spam, then bitch/whine about not getting auction notices and notifications of wining bids. Sent

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Brielle via mailop
Out of curiosity, how are your clients going to prevent sharing of information protected under the FDCPA with third parties?E-mail addresses aren't guaranteed to actually belong to the person you think you are sending to.-- Brie(She/they)The Summit Open Source Development Grouphttps://sosdg.org(Sen

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Brielle via mailop
Hello, You’ve got a few issues that are going to play into this - OVH as your host, subdomain off of a free dns name provider... Email isn’t a public utility or a right. I’m a DNSbl maintainer - myself and others have battled this out over the last 20 years to ensure that even the courts reco

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/7/2019 9:50 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Of course I know what ampr.org is, and if*this* domain is facing that issue, then I feel speechless and very, very mad at Google. Of course, nobody can succeed individually in a lawsuit against Google. But maybe*all* senders who are facing

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/7/2019 10:06 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Ah, where are the times when the Internet was about mutual understanding and co-operation by the admins, to maintain highest possible connectivity... And if someone didn't get their email delivered, admins from both sides treated this as a hi

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/7/2019 10:49 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Well, we all have right to protect ourselves from actual spammer. But not from "someone who I think might look like a spammer". There is no difference when it comes to the rights of what I can do with the equipment/bandwidth I own. I re

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-10 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/10/2019 6:10 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: It's a basic mistake to operate on whole netblocks and not individual senders. Let me ask you something very straight forward. How much do you pay Google so that you can e-mail their users? I know you don't have a service contract or agre

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Brielle via mailop
I think you are trying to revive that long and pointless thread about gmail putting peoples messages in the junk folder. I’ll say it again - blunt and brutal, but reality. owns their mail servers and can decide how they want to process mail and who they accept mail from. Unless you have arr

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/23/2019 10:35 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Because you repeat your rant on this topic again and again, It's not a rant any moreso then your suggestions about regulation, lawsuits to get your way with e-mail providers, etc. > I (as the person > who started the previous thread you are referr

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/23/2019 1:33 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: It's *you* who is constantly bringing up the topic of regulations and lawsuits and not me. Seems you must be pretty obsessed with this. *clears her throat loudly* Message-ID: <20191007155046.gb21...@rafa.eu.org> To quote you... Of course, nobody

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/23/2019 3:05 PM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote: Reality is, your mere suggestion of regulation / courts to make providers accept your e-mail makes you a liability to my services. That will never happen, precedent already set, remember that West Australian super spammer from decades gone by,

Re: [mailop] Can someone write me a prescription for a sane MTA? I'm allergic to Postfix.

2019-12-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
I use Exim, and have been for a lng time. The multi-file config package in Debian is quite nice and makes it easy to configure and customize. On 12/5/2019 4:36 PM, Large Hadron Collider via mailop wrote: The subject says it all. ___ mailop ma

Re: [mailop] BIMI

2019-12-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
> On Dec 6, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Paul Ebersman via mailop > wrote: > > And attempts to get emojis in domain names (don't ask...). ... I don’t know why, but this one line makes me want to go on a rampage. Like streets run red level of rage. ___ mailo

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-02-03 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 2/2/2020 10:03 PM, Tom Wong-Cornall via mailop wrote: As another (very) small-time personal/business server operator, I'm intrigued with the above. I, too, had mail going straight to junk with Gmail and Outlook despite doing my best to be a `good sender' with SPF/DKIM and coming up clean on ev

Re: [mailop] These guys are doing it right!

2020-03-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
I unfortunately had to stop accepting mail from mail.ru many years ago due to abuse/spam. Big providers do a pretty decent job of filtering inbound abuse/spam, but do a really shitty job of controlling outbound abuse/spam. Most of my systems have geo filtering in place too - China, Russia, In

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-11 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 5/11/2020 11:45 AM, Matt V via mailop wrote: On 2020-05-05 11:09 p.m., Andy Smith via mailop wrote: I've been told by at least one Sendgrid person that they have requested membership to the list and are awaiting administrator approvals... Better late than never I guess... -- Brielle Br

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/19/2020 11:06 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2020-08-18 20:23:37 (+0800), Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. The one I've seen most often is 12340469 with 9789821 a close second and 8512936 in third place. I just started

Re: [mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
Oops, hit the send keybind by accident while trying to paste... Lets try this again. On 8/19/2020 11:06 PM, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2020-08-18 20:23:37 (+0800), Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: The SendGrid account sending these yesterday is 13999362. The one I've seen most oft

[mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
Hello, Anyone here have a contact for Zoom in re of webinar spam being sent from their platform via Sendgrid owned IPs? I'm rather unhappy with the fact they're allowing people to spam with no unsubscribe or report feature. I know Sendgrid is a hot steaming pile of dog excrement these days

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
he offending message, I can have it looked at. Cheers, Luke On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 11:39 AM Brielle via mailop <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Hello, Anyone here have a contact for Zoom in re of webinar spam being sent from their platform via Sendgrid owned IPs?

Re: [mailop] I disabled Spamhaus checking due to false-positives

2021-07-15 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 7/15/21 12:26 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Tim Bray via mailop said: Just check which DNS servers you are using. And lot of the 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 of the world and similar don't work very well for RBLs s/very well/at all/ I usually install a local unbound. You

Re: [mailop] I disabled Spamhaus checking due to false-positives

2021-07-16 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 7/16/21 10:58 AM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: Each resolver node is set up of multiple pools that consist of resolvers I run, my provider, and 8.8.8.8/1.1.1.1. If you want to guide this dummy on how to run a local resolver like that, I'd appreciate the tips. :) I was trying to get out of t

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

2021-07-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
These still seem to be coming in quite consistently... Same Zoom sendgrid account. Any updates on whats going on with this, Luke? On 7/6/21 2:44 PM, Brielle via mailop wrote: Here's the two that they all share: Return-path: Return-path: (original unmunged version sent directly t

[mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-04 Thread Brielle via mailop
Like the title asks? Still seeing it daily in my logs hitting the system filters... Same source accounts, same general bodies with no unsubscribes, sent through Zoom's accounts at Sendgrid... I don't mean to be impatient and all, but it has been a while... -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open S

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
*squints her eyes as she recognizes the name Jaroslaw Rafa* I may not have the best memory these days, but I seem to remember you are the one who wanted to bring lawsuits against everyone who runs junk / spam filters. Message-ID: <20191007155046.gb21...@rafa.eu.org> Specifically against google

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/4/21 5:40 PM, Luke via mailop wrote: The account in question was told they need to clean up their act about 4 weeks ago. A week later we saw their overall sending volume drop by more than 66%. Bounces and spam report percentages dropped. That data, along with some unscientific subject line

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/5/21 9:38 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Definitely your memory fails, or your understanding fails;). First, I was not talking about "everyone who runs junk / spam filters", but specifically about Google. Bringing against one just opens the door for more. The minute you create that

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/5/21 8:53 AM, Brielle via mailop wrote: On 8/4/21 5:40 PM, Luke via mailop wrote: The account in question was told they need to clean up their act about 4 weeks ago. Thank you for following up with this information.  Its much appreciated. Just another followup, having looked through

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/5/21 9:41 AM, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Brielle via mailop said: There's also the matter of the lack of unsubscribe... Has zoom explained why they are allowing their customers to send unconfirmed opt-out mail with no unsubscribe option? Good point. That's

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

2021-08-05 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 8/5/21 9:41 AM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Brielle via mailop said: There's also the matter of the lack of unsubscribe... Has zoom explained why they are allowing their customers to send unconfirmed opt-out mail with no unsubscribe option? Good point. That's one

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-06 Thread Brielle via mailop
Are they only needing something super simple and like one mailbox? If they have an iPhone/Mac/iPad and pay for at least the $0.99 iCloud storage plan, can now add a custom domain for free to iCloud email at: https://beta.iCloud.com IMAP and smtp are fully supported. Sent from my iPad > On Sep

Re: [mailop] No one is "too big" anymore

2021-09-09 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 9/9/21 1:30 AM, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote: Domains taken from the envelope senders of a recent round: https://github.com/mxroute/rspamd_rules/commit/3b136e8812c74f35a32e61c8ad21f1f176c5b32d#diff-17eafba14786093de653e1da1991e0677cd7798c2ac277f196ab0eb09f24fc49 Ohhh, nice. rspamd maps

Re: [mailop] Low Volume Senders

2021-09-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 9/12/21 9:59 AM, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: On Fri 10/Sep/2021 16:53:35 +0200 Mike Hammett wrote: I'm sending from a single IP. It's just a low-volume server. Maybe 10 - 20 messages a day? You could increase that volume by sending DMARC aggregate reports. Is there any (prefer

Re: [mailop] Low Volume Senders

2021-09-20 Thread Brielle via mailop
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:05 AM, Florian Effenberger via mailop > wrote: > > seems rspamd supports this: https://rspamd.com/doc/modules/dmarc.html (see > "Reporting" section). Didn't try it myself though, I don't send reports yet. Hah, that makes it easy doesn’t it. I love rspamd - so glad I t

Re: [mailop] Google should be burnt or blown up (was: Gmail putting messages to spam)

2021-10-04 Thread Brielle via mailop
On 10/4/21 2:46 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: It's YOU, GOOGLE, who made me that "low reputation" by consistently putting my messages to spam. Now you are blocking me because of "low reputation" that you made yourself. Get a proper domain name perhaps? Just throwing that out there. I

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-15 Thread Brielle via mailop
I’ll throw my signature on something like this too, as a former DNSbl operator. Just keep me in the loop. It’s nice to see the community working together to deal with incidents as a single voice. Shows that we still all have common goals even if we don’t always see eye to eye on everything.