Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Andrew Barker via mailop
RFC 5321, indicates the correct code for too many recipients is code 452. It also notes that some old servers might also return 552 due to an error in an older RFC. Both codes should be treated as a temporary error indicating that the number of recipients has exceeded the limit for the server.Andre

Re: [mailop] How to move existing mail domain to Google Workspace

2024-12-04 Thread Martin Hasenbein via mailop
On 4.12.24 21:05, John Levine via mailop wrote: Hi John, > All of the instructions for setting up mail at Google say to change the MX > first > before you've set up any mailboxes, which makes no sense -- how will it know > what to do with the mail? > > Can someone who's done this before give

Re: [mailop] Problems Receiving Email But Only from Microsoft/Outlook [lost connection after EHLO]

2024-12-04 Thread Winni Neessen via mailop
Hi, other systems like Mox had a similar issue: https://list.mailop.org/private/mailop/2024-November/029764.html Fix for this was also to disable session tickets. Since more than one MTA is affected, feels like MS might be doing something wrong here. Winni signature.asc Description: OpenPGP d

Re: [mailop] Problems Receiving Email But Only from Microsoft/Outlook [lost connection after EHLO]

2024-12-04 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 09:13:01AM +, Winni Neessen via mailop wrote: > other systems like Mox had a similar issue: > https://list.mailop.org/private/mailop/2024-November/029764.html Fix > for this was also to disable session tickets. Since more than one MTA > is affected, feels like MS might

Re: [mailop] Problems Receiving Email But Only from Microsoft/Outlook [lost connection after EHLO]

2024-12-04 Thread Tanabe Ken-ichi via mailop
Hello, 2024年12月4日(水) 18:41 Viktor Dukhovni via mailop : > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 09:13:01AM +, Winni Neessen via mailop wrote: > > > other systems like Mox had a similar issue: > > https://list.mailop.org/private/mailop/2024-November/029764.html Fix > > for this was also to disable session t

[mailop] Any tips on how to escalate a request in Outlook.com?

2024-12-04 Thread Fernando MM via mailop
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experienced a similar issue and was able to fix it, or if you have any tips on how to escalate a ticket in Outlook.com. For the past year, our IPs have been getting blocked every 2–3 months by Outlook.com. What happens is: 1) Start getting the error "550 5.7.1 Un

[mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Cyril Nicodeme via mailop
Hi everyone, I was wondering if there was a standardized limit, or a "common sense" limit on how many (valid) RCPT command a client can send. If they want to send an email to a thousands recipients that are on the same MX server, would they be able to do that in one session or would they have t

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread ml+mailop--- via mailop
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024, Cyril Nicodeme via mailop wrote: > I was wondering if there was a standardized limit, or a "common > sense" limit on how many (valid) RCPT command a client can send. You could check the RFCs, e.g., RFC 5321 SMTP October 2008 4.

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 12/4/24 12:00 PM, Cyril Nicodeme via mailop wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if there was a standardized limit, or a "common sense" limit on how many (valid) RCPT command a client can send. If they want to send an email to a thousands recipients that are on the same MX server, would t

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:22:20PM +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > > > On 12/4/24 12:00 PM, Cyril Nicodeme via mailop wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I was wondering if there was a standardized limit, or a "common sense" > > limit on how many (valid) RCPT command a client can send. If t

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Any tips on how to escalate a request in Outlook.com?

2024-12-04 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
S 3150 is a throttle block, possibly related to IP reputation classification. It should automatically expire on its own, and is generally caused by sending too much traffic too fast. Usually. But I no longer work in that particular area, so can't be of any further assistance. Aloha, Michael.

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 12/4/24 09:45, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: No, not a "421", since that would normally also be a connection abort, and none of the recipients would get the mail. What do you think about a 450 4.2.1? Rather, the correct handling is to softfail the excess recipients and accept the initi

[mailop] How to move existing mail domain to Google Workspace

2024-12-04 Thread John Levine via mailop
I have been hosting mail for my wife's church, and they want to move it to Google Workspace. There is one address that goes to a real mailbox here that's picked up by IMAP, and a few others that forward to other addresses. All of the instructions for setting up mail at Google say to change the MX

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 07:23:07PM -0700, Andrew Barker via mailop wrote: >RFC 5321, indicates the correct code for too many recipients is code >452. It also notes that some old servers might also return 552 due to >an error in an older RFC. Both codes should be treated as a temporary

Re: [mailop] Is there a standard for how many RCPT to accept?

2024-12-04 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:01:34PM -0600, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: > On 12/4/24 09:45, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote: > > No, not a "421", since that would normally also be a connection abort, > > and none of the recipients would get the mail. > > What do you think about a 450 4.2.1? We