Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Fri 25/Aug/2023 17:36:06 +0200 Chris Adams via mailop wrote: Once upon a time, Jaroslaw Rafa said: Dnia 25.08.2023 o godz. 09:48:35 Chris Adams via mailop pisze: So even for transactional messages, there's usually an account making the purchase, or something is being delivered to an addre

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
> On 25.08.2023 at 13:29 Brotman, Alex via mailop wrote: > >  Are you suggesting that an unsub results in a suppression? That hardly > seems ideal. That seems to suggest I sign up for a brand's email list. > Order some stuff, get receipt. Later unsub. Later buy again, but get no > receipt

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Fri 25/Aug/2023 23:12:56 +0200 postfix wrote: users either underuse, or overconsume.  In both cases they are paying more than what a market without subscription would do. Aha, so that's why they tend to give the wrong address... For comparison, the delivery address is wrong in rare cases,

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 26. augusta 2023 11:29:34 UTC používateľ Alessandro Vesely via mailop napísal: >On Fri 25/Aug/2023 23:12:56 +0200 postfix wrote: >> users either underuse, or overconsume.  In both cases they are paying more >> than what a market without subscription would do. > >Aha, so that's why they tend

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 26.08.2023 o godz. 13:58:21 Slavko via mailop pisze: > > Or people simple do not want to share own email, as it is > not related for delivery, but required by the form. Thus > they fill semi random email like string. In many cases either the correct email address OR a phone number is needed

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

2023-08-26 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 8/26/23 06:58, Slavko via mailop wrote: Or people simple do not want to share own email, as it is not related for delivery, but required by the form. Thus they fill semi random email like string. That's what mailinator is for, or the temporary addresses offered by several browser plugins,

[mailop] RNC v. Google Dispositioin

2023-08-26 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this here, because it was a big win for Gmail plus has language which is applicable to any ISP. In the order (in which the RNC complaint was dismissed) the court basically not only smacked down the RNC, but made clear that the Communications Decency Act

Re: [mailop] RNC v. Google Dispositioin

2023-08-26 Thread Rob McEwen via mailop
BigTech is overflowing with extreme-leftist bias - especially with their social media fact-checkers - and (to a lesser extent) this bias overflows into their spam filtering and search results - HOWEVER - the RNC and so many right-wing politicians are among the WORST to try such a lawsuit becaus

Re: [mailop] RNC v. Google Dispositioin

2023-08-26 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
That's been a lot of my finding as well. While I fully empathize with efforts to tackle bias, spam from affiliates of the RNC is worse than their counterparts. Mainstream bias is worse in the opposite direction, spam is worse in this direction. It's quite fair to notice the flaws from every

Re: [mailop] RNC v. Google Dispositioin

2023-08-26 Thread Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop
Maybe one of the reasons the right-side of the political spectrum are more aggressive spammers, is that it's a knock-on effect from being marginalized within mainstream channels and leftist BigTech platforms. Maybe if it was a more level playing field they'd feel less inclined to do so. - ma

Re: [mailop] RNC v. Google Dispositioin

2023-08-26 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop said: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Maybe one of the reasons the right-side of the political spectrum are >more aggressive spammers, is that it's a knock-on effect from being >marginalized within mainstream channels and leftist BigTech platforms. > >May