Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding - Summary

2024-11-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.11.2024 o godz. 05:55:57 Miles Fidelman via mailop pisze: > I've been noodling with the notion of building a complete enterprise > environment in "virtual space" - i.e, the Web3 space defined by > protocols supported by LibP2P, naming & addressing by IPNS & CIDs, > and a computing environme

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding - Summary

2024-11-25 Thread Miles Fidelman via mailop
Dave Crocker via mailop wrote: This thread has touched on several topic that seem unrelated. Given your Subject line and reference to gateway, I had assumed you were asking about translating mail between two different syntactic/semantic environment.  That has nothing to do with file systems

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.11.2024 o godz. 04:04:13 Dave Crocker via mailop pisze: > This thread has touched on several topic that seem unrelated. IMHO, the problem has not been clearly stated from the very beginning. In the first email of previous related thread, the OP is saying that "I've been thinking of migrati

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-24 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 11/22/2024 11:37 AM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody is offering mail-gateways as a service - be they free gateways or paid? This thread has to

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-23 Thread Carsten Schiefner via mailop
Miles, please let us all know if a *reliable* (tm) SMTP inbound service has been set up that way. And a rather detailed How-To, if you would, of how you have accomplished this eventually. Thanks & best, -C. On 23.11.2024 18:04, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: One can set up a fil

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-23 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Miles Fidelman via mailop said: >Andy Smith via mailop wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 12:16:55AM +0100, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote: >>> On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman via mailop
Andy Smith via mailop wrote: Hi, On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 12:16:55AM +0100, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote: On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder i

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman via mailop
One can set up a file as a CRDT-style log file.  Local delivery adds to the log, the new messages propagate across the cloud (essentially as a torrent). VPN, with an anycast address for mail receipt would probably work just fine.  Spin up a few VMs on different hosts as listeners, and it would

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Nov24, John Levine apparently wrote: > You can make the problem a lot easier by putting each message in a different > file like Maildir For the mail payload sure, Maildir offers a likely unique ID for storage, but it doesn't really help much with metadata or for syncing and resolving mailbo

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
I was actually thinking more in line with LiberationTech from Stanford: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt It’s not a prime concern of MailOps that’s for sure. It’s definitely going to come up again and again. Ladar Levison’s Dark Mail sort of disappeared as well, so I’m not sure what’s

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 12:16:55AM +0100, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote: > On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: > > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with > > local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody > > is offeri

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Mark Delany via mailop said: >On 22Nov24, Eric Tykwinski via mailop apparently wrote: >> Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know >> Interplanetary File System as much as I should. >> You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/del

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Philipp Kern via mailop
On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with > local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody > is offering mail-gateways as a service - be they free gateways or paid? Isn't that everyone wh

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Nov24, Eric Tykwinski via mailop apparently wrote: > Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know > Interplanetary File System as much as I should. > You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/delete a > message, and that changes the hash/CID wh

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know Interplanetary File System as much as I should. You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/delete a message, and that changes the hash/CID which I’m assuming will replicate to other distributed systems on

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Romain via mailop
Do you need a gateway to receive email? Send email? Both? Le ven. 22 nov. 2024 à 20:42, Miles Fidelman via mailop a écrit : > Hi Folks, > > Apropos my earlier question of funneling mail to a server that doesn't > have a fixed IP address. It occurs to me that this is simply another > way to say

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Miles, If you are just trying to send/receive on a dynamic ip range, I would purchase a cheap VPS and run something like Proxmox Mail Gateway, or a home-brew deal of the same with a static IP, valid reverse dns, et al. Setup a WireGuard connection server on the mail gateway, and then just prox

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 11/22/24 1:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: I'm reminded of the days of MMDF, and mail-uucp gateways and such. chuckle So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody is offering mail-ga

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 22.11.2024 um 14:37:23 Uhr schrieb Miles Fidelman via mailop: > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail > with local delivery to an IPFS file. sendmail can save mail to a local file with the local mailer. This file includes all mail of one user. Is that what you want?

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Miles Fidelman via mailop said: >So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with >local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody >is offering mail-gateways as a service - be they free gateways or paid? Gateways to what? The way yo