Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Nov24, John Levine apparently wrote: > You can make the problem a lot easier by putting each message in a different > file like Maildir For the mail payload sure, Maildir offers a likely unique ID for storage, but it doesn't really help much with metadata or for syncing and resolving mailbo

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
I was actually thinking more in line with LiberationTech from Stanford: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt It’s not a prime concern of MailOps that’s for sure. It’s definitely going to come up again and again. Ladar Levison’s Dark Mail sort of disappeared as well, so I’m not sure what’s

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 12:16:55AM +0100, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote: > On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: > > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with > > local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody > > is offeri

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Mark Delany via mailop said: >On 22Nov24, Eric Tykwinski via mailop apparently wrote: >> Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know >> Interplanetary File System as much as I should. >> You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/del

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Philipp Kern via mailop
On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with > local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody > is offering mail-gateways as a service - be they free gateways or paid? Isn't that everyone wh

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Mark Delany via mailop
On 22Nov24, Eric Tykwinski via mailop apparently wrote: > Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know > Interplanetary File System as much as I should. > You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/delete a > message, and that changes the hash/CID wh

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Here’s the thing that confuses me, and perhaps because I don’t know Interplanetary File System as much as I should. You have /var/spool/mail/user which changes every time you receive/delete a message, and that changes the hash/CID which I’m assuming will replicate to other distributed systems on

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Romain via mailop
Do you need a gateway to receive email? Send email? Both? Le ven. 22 nov. 2024 à 20:42, Miles Fidelman via mailop a écrit : > Hi Folks, > > Apropos my earlier question of funneling mail to a server that doesn't > have a fixed IP address. It occurs to me that this is simply another > way to say

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Miles, If you are just trying to send/receive on a dynamic ip range, I would purchase a cheap VPS and run something like Proxmox Mail Gateway, or a home-brew deal of the same with a static IP, valid reverse dns, et al. Setup a WireGuard connection server on the mail gateway, and then just prox

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 11/22/24 1:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote: I'm reminded of the days of MMDF, and mail-uucp gateways and such. chuckle So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody is offering mail-ga

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Marco Moock via mailop
Am 22.11.2024 um 14:37:23 Uhr schrieb Miles Fidelman via mailop: > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail > with local delivery to an IPFS file. sendmail can save mail to a local file with the local mailer. This file includes all mail of one user. Is that what you want?

Re: [mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Miles Fidelman via mailop said: >So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with >local delivery to an IPFS file.  But, that leads me to wonder if anybody >is offering mail-gateways as a service - be they free gateways or paid? Gateways to what? The way yo

[mailop] current state of multi-protocol mail forwarding

2024-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman via mailop
Hi Folks, Apropos my earlier question of funneling mail to a server that doesn't have a fixed IP address.  It occurs to me that this is simply another way to say "proxy server." I'm reminded of the days of MMDF, and mail-uucp gateways and such. So, one answer to my problem is just to set up

Re: [mailop] whois's netname

2024-11-22 Thread Slavko via mailop
On 21. novembra 2024 22:37:24 UTC, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote: >$ whois -T inetnum hd-net >$ whois -T inet6num belwue > >I don't think netname is guaranteed to be unique. It's not a primary key. Yes, netname is not unique, multiple prefixes can be (and are) named by the same. Thanks for comm

Re: [mailop] whois's netname

2024-11-22 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-11-21 at 17:37:24 UTC-0500 (Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:37:24 +0100) Philipp Kern via mailop is rumored to have said: On 11/21/24 5:58 PM, Slavko via mailop wrote: On 21. novembra 2024 15:51:52 UTC, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: At least that works for me: m@ryz:~$ whois 129.206.0.0 |grep

Re: [mailop] whois's netname

2024-11-22 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
on Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:09:56AM -0500, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > Whois data is irregular, poorly-maintained, and often wrong. The various > 'whois' clients offer differing UIs and capabilities. Whois servers provide > responses in ungoverned formats. Agreed. And increasingly cloaked, rate-l

Re: [mailop] SMTP TLS Reports for forged senders.

2024-11-22 Thread Olga Fischer via mailop
Thanks Of course, that makes sense. I mixed that up because there are so few even sending reports. As of yet there were no negative ones incoming ever. So someone else is attempting to TLS connect us and reports about that. Because from the same report sender comes a dmarc report in the same tim

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

2024-11-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop
Am 04.11.24 um 17:14 schrieb Kris Deugau via mailop: Take a closer look, and I'd bet all five of those specific messages were sent through Google Groups.  Number 2 and 3 I'm sure of as I've got spamples myself. Take a broader look and I'd bet you'll find more messages with similar sender addr