Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 5/18/2022 11:01 AM, John R Levine wrote:  but even though both are technically sound, nobody uses them outside of a  few specialized communities which suggests that it's not going to happen. btw, neither does cert management in a way that has been shown to scale across the open, hetero

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 5/17/2022 8:44 PM, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: I wonder if this one ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money should be complemented with a crypto version, to avoid triggering those that hate cryptos being compared with money? Indeed. In fact it seems clear to me that this is

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 5/18/2022 11:01 AM, John R Levine wrote: Hm, your copy of the message appears to have been cut off.  Here's the rest which you presumably missed: I didn't. Your opening echoed my language, in a form casting it as taking exception to it. I was noting that your choice for interpreting m

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread John R Levine via mailop
Note that, in spite of DMARC, we still do not have per-user authentication. We have at least two flavors in PGP and S/MIME, When something exists for 30 years and has market penetration that cannot even rise to the level of being called 'meager'. /WE/ -- it, the Internet community -- does not

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 5/18/2022 10:32 AM, John Levine wrote: > It appears that Dave Crocker via mailop said: ... Note that, in spite of DMARC, we still do not have per-user >> authentication. We have at least two flavors in PGP and S/MIME, When something exists for 30 years and has market penetration that

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Dave Crocker via mailop said: > > >On 5/17/2022 4:40 PM, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote: >> "why we can't do that", culminating in "the Commission concludes that, under >> present conditions, a National Do Not Email Registry in any form would not >> have any beneficial impact on

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/17/22 16:40, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote: For those who didn't know, you may find this infuria...interesting. Did you know that CAN-SPAM mandated that the FTC look at creating a Do Not Email list and report their findings within 6 months of CAN-SPAM being enacted? Of course, because la

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Luis E. Muñoz via mailop said: >On 17 May 2022, at 21:59, Dave Crocker via mailop wrote: > >> I keep enjoying that it has the style of satire, but is so well done is it >> /extremely/ useful for legitimate use. > >I wonder if this one > >( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new f

Re: [mailop] FTC Report on Feasibility of Creating a 'Do Not Email' List

2022-05-18 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> On May 17, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Paul Vixie via mailop wrote: > > that was vernon schryver, and the list is still online, and vernon still adds > to it from time to time. rather than post the url itself, i'll post the > KARKIVE link from news.admin.net-abuse.email where it was first announced.

Re: [mailop] aol email help

2022-05-18 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
As Lyle says, AOL and Yahoo are the same entity nowadays. So you'll want to go here - https://senders.yahooinc.com/ - click on contact, and click on the first button (problems). Lyle -- they are no longer Verizon Media, FYI: https://www.spamresource.com/2021/09/yahoo-is-yahoo-again.html Cheers, A

Re: [mailop] [E] aol email help

2022-05-18 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 4:04 PM sam via mailop wrote: > I am trying to track down a contact for aol.com as we have a couple users > who are emailing into aol.com but there mail is landing in spam > You can get support at https://senders.yahooinc.com - Marcel ___