Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <1967837452.10796.1608741683...@appsuite-gw2.open-xchange.com> you write: >> ESPs are well within their rights to refuse to do business with some >> customers. >> >I am pretty sure that if an ESP refused to do business with any customer from >a specific ethnic group, or >prohibi

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 12/22/20 12:34, John Levine via mailop wrote: In article you write: The only basis on which these emails should be judged is on whether they're spam or malware. This suggests you're OK with child pornography and beheading videos so long as subscribers ask for them. And what about the Malw

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 23/12/2020 13:13 Laura Atkins via mailop ha > scritto: > > > The discussion is simpler than that. Sendgrid owns their network. > Sendgrid gets to make the rules about what is allowed on their network. > > Spam isn’t illegal, yet they prohibit it. > > Gambling related

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 23.12.2020 o godz. 12:13:25 Laura Atkins via mailop pisze: > > Spam isn’t illegal, yet they prohibit it. There are at least few countries where spam *is* illegal. > Gambling related email isn’t illegal, yet many ESPs prohibit it. In many countries gambling operators (casinos etc.) need a

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:55, Vittorio Bertola via mailop > wrote: > > >> Il 22/12/2020 21:56 Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop ha >> scritto: >> >> There are clear, existing, unambiguous laws against this, and nobody >> questions any entity who not only declines to facilitate this but actively

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 22/12/2020 21:56 Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop ha > scritto: > > > There are clear, existing, unambiguous laws against this, and nobody > questions any entity who not only declines to facilitate this but actively > purges it from their platforms. > > Where I have a problem is

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 22.12.20 um 02:56 schrieb Eric Tykwinski via mailop: > Seriously, this is probably political…  Not saying I agree, but unless it’s > spam, i.e. unwanted by your recipients, > then you just have a bunch of wack jobs as clients and keep it at that. As John has stated in his original mail, it was