Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Cole
On 18 Apr 2018, at 19:03 (-0400), Erwin wrote: > RFC 5821 seems rather elusive. Where can one not in the know find a copy? That was a typo. the quoted text was from RFC5321 -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Curre

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 04/18/2018 05:49 PM, Al Iverson wrote: If you're downloading all your O365 mail and pulling the IP out of that header, then it's always going to be in the same format and dealing with it is trivial. Beyond that, when would it be safe to trust this received header, anyway? Unless it's the mos

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Al Iverson
If you're downloading all your O365 mail and pulling the IP out of that header, then it's always going to be in the same format and dealing with it is trivial. Beyond that, when would it be safe to trust this received header, anyway? Unless it's the most recent one, could it not be faked? In the p

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
So the only bit we're missing is wrapping the IP literal in []'s. I'll see if I can get that looked at, but somehow I doubt they're gonna do anything because after years of doing it this way ... There are many dependencies internally. ☹ Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporatio

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 19/04/18 00:03, Erwin wrote: > RFC 5821 seems rather elusive. Where can one not in the know find a copy? Sorry, typo. 5321. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
ISTR that we do it the way we do because we didn’t want to do an, “Off The Box Call” even to look up the rDNS. Would love to see us go back to the previously-noted format, but I doubt that’s going to happen. And there are so many other formats out there. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Micro

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Erwin
RFC 5821 seems rather elusive. Where can one not in the know find a copy? On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Jeremy Harris wrote: > On 18/04/18 23:03, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > Sorry, what section of 2821? > > 5821 has > > > 4.4. Trace Information > "MUST insert trace ("time stamp" o

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Erwin
Section 4.1.2 defines address-literal: address-literal = "[" IPv4-address-literal / IPv6-address-literal / General-address-literal "]" ; See section 4.1.3 Section 4.1.3 provides specifics for IPv4 (and IPv6 as Brandon kind

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Michael Peddemors
While you are right the RFC's say you should enclose dotted quad in some places in the email transaction, when it comes to 'Received' lines, there is a little more 'free for all'. These so called 'trace' fields are covered in RFC5322 and RFC5321 "Received:" header fields of messages originatin

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 18/04/18 23:03, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Sorry, what section of 2821? 5821 has 4.4. Trace Information "MUST insert trace ("time stamp" or "Received")" "The FROM clause, which MUST be supplied in an SMTP environment, SHOULD contain both (1) the name of the source host as

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Apr 18, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Erwin wrote: > > Hi, > > This may be old hat to some, but staring at the RFCs (specifically 2821) the > only conclusion I see is that Microsoft is (or at least *.outlook.com servers > are) violating the format of the Received headers here: > > Received: from mt

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
RFC 5321 4.4 ie "Extended-Domain" is how they're supposed to be shown. The IP is an address-literal which is supposed to be in brackets ([]), which to be fair, I don't think we do the right thing with ipv6 (which is supposed to have a prefix on the ip, ie [IPv6:2001:41c8:51:83:feff:ff:fe00:a0b])

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Sorry, what section of 2821? With all the different styles of Received: headers out there (Qmail comes to mind…), I wasn’t aware that there was in fact a single standard on the format. I mean, I really love the ( [n.n.n.n]) structure and all, but … If you could point me to a MUST reference,

[mailop] Received header address information

2018-04-18 Thread Erwin
Hi, This may be old hat to some, but staring at the RFCs (specifically 2821) the only conclusion I see is that Microsoft is (or at least *.outlook.com servers are) violating the format of the Received headers here: Received: from mta.email.thinkgeek.com (66.231.88.32) by SN1NAM04FT019.mail.protec

[mailop] Anyone from Earthlink ? Unable to get response to delist IP

2018-04-18 Thread Allen Kevorkov via mailop
Hi guys, Has anyone had trouble getting IP blocks removed from Earthlink? We've submitted several times for 2 IPs of a client that has recently migrated into new IP range, but no response (other IPs are getting removed promptly). If someone is available to take a look and can contact me off-list,

Re: [mailop] Missing datas on Google Postmaster

2018-04-18 Thread Mohammed Ahmed
I talked to Gmail Postmaster and they are already aware of it and working on this issue. There is no ETA on it yet. Thanks, Mohammed. On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Allen Kevorkov via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Indeed... a number of folks have confirmed data is missing for them. A

Re: [mailop] Missing datas on Google Postmaster

2018-04-18 Thread Allen Kevorkov via mailop
Indeed... a number of folks have confirmed data is missing for them. Any insight into this? Many were hoping it would've fixed itself by now :) Thanks! ~Allen K On Wednesday, April 18, 2018, 4:14:07 AM EDT, Bressier Simon wrote: Hi Brandon, I'm sure you're already over aware that da

Re: [mailop] Salesforce Marketing Cloud EMEA Deliverability Consultant Role - France

2018-04-18 Thread David Hofstee
Hi Anthony, I'm not sure what the consensus is on job adverts. I have an opening too. But I would prefer it if you keep it away from this mailing list. Email deliverability is a small world. Maybe you can use twitter for job openings... #email #deliverability #job ... Yours, David On 17 April

Re: [mailop] question regarding support for international characters {dkim-fail}

2018-04-18 Thread Annalivia Ford
Thanks for all your input on this question, people! Much appreciated. -Annalivia Regards, Annalivia Ford Email Services Manager, EMEA Phone: +31 (0)6 53 32 34 44 eMail: annalivi...@nl.ibm.com From: Brandon Long via mailop To: John Levine Cc: mailop , Ned Freed Date: 1

[mailop] Missing datas on Google Postmaster

2018-04-18 Thread Bressier Simon
Hi Brandon, I'm sure you're already over aware that datas are stopped on 11th of April on G postmaster on FBL, authentication, spam rate. Just wanted to check if you already had an ETA of fix, and if it will be retroactive ? Thank you very much in advance. Simon