Re: [mailop] DMARC analysis

2017-05-03 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 21:14 +0200, Rok Potočnik via mailop wrote: > So, I'd like to deploy DMARC as an ISP/ESP by default to the customers,  > but I can't seem to find any opensource solution regarding report  > analysis/graphing, or at least I can't seem to find a solution on  > https://dmarc.org

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 15:23 -0400, Al Iverson wrote: [...snip...] > But, I disagree when it comes to receiving spam complaints. How long > have you manned, monitored or supported an active abuse address? 10+ > years here. [...snip...] About 8 years. CTO (for mailbox provider) so literally owned it

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Al Iverson
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: > On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 11:31 -0400, Al Iverson wrote: >> Ken, the flaw in your recommendation is that you're asking the sender >> to change how they do X because the receiver is applying filtering >> that they really shouldn't be ap

[mailop] DMARC analysis

2017-05-03 Thread Rok Potočnik via mailop
So, I'd like to deploy DMARC as an ISP/ESP by default to the customers, but I can't seem to find any opensource solution regarding report analysis/graphing, or at least I can't seem to find a solution on https://dmarc.org/resources/code-and-libraries/ I know there are a bunch of 'free' solutio

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 11:31 -0400, Al Iverson wrote: > Ken, the flaw in your recommendation is that you're asking the sender > to change how they do X because the receiver is applying filtering > that they really shouldn't be applying. It doesn't fit the "be liberal > in what you accept" best pract

Re: [mailop] Just an Introduction... Nice to meet your acquintance..

2017-05-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 17-05-03 11:20 AM, Michael Peddemors wrote: Just thought I would reach out, as in general SendGrid does a better job than most ESP's.. Sorry, that was meant to be offlist.. :( -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michae

[mailop] Just an Introduction... Nice to meet your acquintance..

2017-05-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
Just thought I would reach out, as in general SendGrid does a better job than most ESP's.. However, of course.. differentiating between those doing single opt-in, and double opt-in, marketing from transactional email is always a challenge for those in the spam protection space. You might like

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
You can whitelist senders either by IP or by address/domain: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2368132 Yes, you can't currently whitelist by receiving address from the admin console. To whitelist abuse@domain, you would need to: 1) Go into the groups interface for the abuse group and disable spa

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid people

2017-05-03 Thread Ryan Harris via mailop
Hello, Ryan Harris, Manager of Compliance with SendGrid here. I wanted to close the loop on this thread. We spoke with our client Nationbuilder and informed them that their client was no longer able to send with SendGrid due to bad practices and violating our ToS. Nationbuilder agreed and terminat

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Michael Rathbun
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:31:20 -0400, Al Iverson wrote: >(Also wasn't emailing zip files filled with malware a fun exercise for >some bad actors in recent history?) As in "several hundred samples per day", that would be a "yes". mdr -- "There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie _

Re: [mailop] Could a SendGrid Rep reach out to me offlist..

2017-05-03 Thread Corey Fineman via mailop
Hi Michael, I'll send you a message offlist. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Seems that Intuit is sending out malformed emails out the SendGrid > platform.. > Causing it not to reach customers.. legitimate email. > > > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > ---

[mailop] Could a SendGrid Rep reach out to me offlist..

2017-05-03 Thread Michael Peddemors
Seems that Intuit is sending out malformed emails out the SendGrid platform.. Causing it not to reach customers.. legitimate email. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. Visit us

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Al Iverson
Ken, the flaw in your recommendation is that you're asking the sender to change how they do X because the receiver is applying filtering that they really shouldn't be applying. It doesn't fit the "be liberal in what you accept" best practice. Those of us that have used various edge spam filtering

Re: [mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
Hi Otto, Are you saying that you have difficulty relaying abuse reports to Google hosted domains because their spam filtering generates false positives for those emails? If that is what you are saying, then could you not tar or zip those reports up like others do? Google isn't alone in flagging i

[mailop] Google email hosting and abuse handling?

2017-05-03 Thread Otto J. Makela
We (Funet, the Finnish NREN) receive and obtain abuse reports from various sources and typically forward them to our clients, which include educational, research and some governmental sites. Some of our clients have outsourced their email to Google. The problem here is that also the abuse reportin