Re: [mailop] Should I be disappointed with Reflexion?

2016-04-13 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 4/12/16 1:17 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: We recently setup our first customer using the encryption aspect with Reflexion. And for the end-user they have been dealing with bounce backs from recipients e-mail accounts not liking the e-mail that Reflexion sends that basically tells the recipients to u

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Luke Martinez via mailop
To piggy back a bit on what has been said already... When it comes to gmail. every new "sending resource" requires a new warm up. From what I have gathered, a "sending resource" is (non-exhaustively) a new IP address, new SPF domain, or new DKIM domain. We send a lot of mail from a wide variety o

[mailop] Any Proofpoint contacts here?

2016-04-13 Thread Jim Cheetham
I'm suffering from a strange recurrent blocking ... https://support.proofpoint.com/rbl-lookup.cgi?ip=139.80.64.247 As of right now, it says "Most Recently Seen as Spam10/04/2014 23:44:25 GMT " and customers are rejecting our email. I delisted this yesterday, but it's back, and I can't attemp

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Wise
Hmm… $ telnet 46.165.222.180 25 Trying 46.165.222.180... Connected to mx8.antispamcloud.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx8.antispamcloud.com ESMTP Exim 4.85-98781 Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:47:59 +0200 HELO * 250 mx8.antispamcloud.com Hello * [*.*.*.*] MAIL FROM: 250 OK RCPT TO: 451-*.*.*.* is not

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Franck Martin via mailop
DMARC looks ok: https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/chinalovecupid.com Sometimes it takes more than 24 hours, also make sure the mail system does not flag the report as spam (because containing bad IPs)... On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Michael Wise wrote: > > > I see it slightly differently

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Wise
I see it slightly differently: $ host -t txt _dmarc.chinalovecupid.com _dmarc.chinalovecupid.com descriptive text "v=DMARC1\; p=none\; rua=mailto:dm...@chinalovecupid.com"; What’s with the “\” in front of the “;”’s? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Spe

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Wise
And I apologize for coming off snarky… I have a headache. ☹ Nothing personal. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Dickie LaFlamme
ha, no worries. That's fair enough. Here's the customers DMARC record. The domain ​:​ chinalovecupid.com v=DMARC1; p=none; rua=mailto:dm...@chinalovecupid.com ​Again we know that this does not currently have the ​"pct=100" tag, but with or without the results have been the same. Thanks, [imag

Re: [mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Carl Byington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 2016-04-13 at 17:19 -0700, Franck Martin via mailop wrote: > You can verify that the certificate is trusted (based on your list of > trusted CAs), but there are no good method to do hostname > verification. May be a FCrDNS would allow you to

Re: [mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Wise
… as always, please let us know the customer’s real domain name (or IP address, or whatever) when making these requests. Not including that is about on par with the legendary complaints of: “ It Doesn’t Work. “ I Can’t Print. Etc, At some point, we’re going to ask you for it anyway, so best to

[mailop] DMARC record in p=none not receiving aggregate reports to RUA

2016-04-13 Thread Dickie LaFlamme
We have a customer who's setup a DMARC record with the correct TXT record; v=DMARC1; p=none; pct=100; rua=mailto:dmarc@"customerspostmaster"; after waiting the 24 hour period we still did not receive any aggregate reports to the mailbox. After some searching we advised the customer to try and take

Re: [mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Franck Martin via mailop
Have a look at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-martin-authentication-results-tls-03 may be jump to the example... I did not pursue, but many MTA clients are sending the certificates, meant for receiving email to the server they are connecting too. You can verify that the certificate is trusted

Re: [mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Al Iverson
Boo @ designing something so that "FAIL is really nothing is to be concerned with." It's the kind of thing deliverability people will now be spending the rest of their lives explaining to clients that this big ole FAIL is to be ignored. -- Al Iverson www.aliverson.com (312)725-0130 On Wed, Apr

Re: [mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Steve Freegard
Hi Robert, I'm one of the developers of Haraka. verify=FAIL simply means that the TLS certificate presented by the peer host could not be verified as trusted by a CA. In the case of an MUA (which this appears to be), it would be normal as an MUA does not usually present client TLS certificates

Re: [mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
If the server is saying your client connection is verify=FAIL/NO, I would imagine that means either you have a client certificate that doesn't verify, or you don't have a client certificate the remote server is being pedantic about it. Brandon On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Robert Guthrie wrot

[mailop] TLS verify=FAIL

2016-04-13 Thread Robert Guthrie
Hello List, I wonder if someone could tell me about the verify=FAIL messages I'm seeing in email headers sent from my SMTP's. Received: from loomio.io (errbit.loomio.org [45.55.128.240]) by smtp.loomio.io (Haraka/2.8.0-alpha.7) with ESMTPSA id 632790F7-CF56-4481-ACBA-2CBACE7EB8BB.1

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Franck Martin via mailop
I take the rule of thumb that hotmail/outlook.com does not like more than 20% volume changes day over day and week over week. Subscribe to the SNDS, and if you see your IPs in the yellow, stop ramping up. All the other mailbox providers follow same rules more or less, but this gives you a fair cont

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Robert Guthrie
Wow. Thanks for the really helpful replies List. As of this morning I'm not seeing the delays anymore. The IP has been in use as our main SMTP for 13 days from a cold start. The old, warmed up IP address is long gone - back to the VPS provider. I know now that that was a Rookie mistake - For a lo

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
It's old now, but I think the basics are likely still there: http://ceas.cc/2006/19.pdf Brandon On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Eric Henson wrote: > I think he means Google has a list of domains and they have a score from 0 > to 100 or something like that. > > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:45 PM, G. Miliotis wrote: > On 13/4/2016 22:28, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > >> if you have sufficient volume and your mail authenticates and you keep >> the same authentication when switching IPs, then your reputation should >> transfer. >> > Does this mean having

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Eric Henson
I think he means Google has a list of domains and they have a score from 0 to 100 or something like that. -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of G. Miliotis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:45 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] How lon

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread G. Miliotis
On 13/4/2016 22:28, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: if you have sufficient volume and your mail authenticates and you keep the same authentication when switching IPs, then your reputation should transfer. Does this mean having the same DKIM key or something else? --GM _

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Yes, I need details to be able to investigate. Yes, some throttles apply to netblocks, but I should point out that throttles are not "just" a netblock or "just" an IP or domain, we have hundreds of different throttles depending on many features, and good enough reputation will exempt you from most

Re: [mailop] Gmail Blacklisting

2016-04-13 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
We don't just run reputation on IP addresses, the spammer killed the reputation of any associated domains and such. Your domain is recovering, but it can take up to 30 days to fully recover sometimes longer if people don't mark your mail as not spam. Though, that's only for the domain you're

Re: [mailop] Gmail Blacklisting

2016-04-13 Thread Franck Martin via mailop
And it is not only to Google, many other mail receivers requires SPF or DKIM over IPv6. And if you set up a mail receiver with IPv6, do these requirements too, it is an industry best practice (cf M3AAWG.org). On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Tony Finch wrote: > Thomas Wilhelm wrote: > > > > Do

Re: [mailop] Should I be disappointed with Reflexion?

2016-04-13 Thread Mark Keymer
I wanted to just thank everyone for your feedback both on and off list. Sincerely, Mark Keymer On 4/12/2016 1:48 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: We recently setup our first customer using the encryption aspect with Reflexion. And for the end-user they

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Kincaid-Smith via mailop
Hi Robert, Gmail's systems are very sensitive to sudden changes. Start with just a few/tens of emails the first day and ramp up slowly -- an *order of magnitude* at a time. Eventually their machine learning systems will discover that recipients want your mail and adjust accordingly. Paul On Wed,

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Al Iverson
The very rough thought is that it takes about four weeks to warm up a new IP address. In your case, I think you'd want to split the traffic 50/50 between the old IP address and new one and then it'd be a case of waiting to see how long before Gmail figured out that the mail coming from the new IP a

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Maarten Oelering
In general IP warming can take anywhere from weeks to months, depending on volume and other factors. Make sure you interpret Google’s replies based on the text, not just the status code. Quota errors have status 4XX and they have throttling at mailbox level and at sender level. The error may a

Re: [mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Andreas Schamanek
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016, at 10:39, Robert Guthrie wrote: > I recently setup a new SMTP on a new IP address, emails to Google > Apps accounts take a few hours to arrive do to throttling on > Google's end. ... After about a week I'm still seeing 1 hour delays > on things like password reset emails.

[mailop] How long does an IP address take to "Warm up"?

2016-04-13 Thread Robert Guthrie
Hello list, I run a group decision making app. We send about 40,000 transactional emails a day, with very good open rates. I recently setup a new SMTP on a new IP address, emails to Google Apps accounts take a few hours to arrive do to throttling on Google's end. I wish I'd reused the old IP addr

Re: [mailop] Gmail Blacklisting

2016-04-13 Thread Tony Finch
Thomas Wilhelm wrote: > > Does anybody have a hint for us, how to fix this problem? To send mail to Google over v6 you have to have SPF, DKIM, reverse DNS, everything set up to the best anti-spam standards. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode Southeast Iceland

[mailop] Gmail Blacklisting

2016-04-13 Thread Thomas Wilhelm
Hello List, We have several issues sending mails to gmail/google over IPv6. Background: We are a local ISP in Germany with about 40,000 private customers. We had a spam problem with one of our customers, that burned our IPv6 mailserver addresses. This problem has been fixed. We now run an rspa