Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Well, free edition should be limited to 5 accounts, but yeah, $300/year is pricey for consumers, no doubt about that. And I wouldn't call Gmail hobbled, it's just more similar to the consumer version, doesn't add the bells & whistles of the paid version. Though, when you're used to running your o

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I have the old one with 50 accounts. And "hobbled" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I do run my own servers and I am used to having all sorts of flexibility :) However, hobbled feels right since the features already exist, they're just... well... -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
I would, if I could pay for just the actual users. Sadly, I have too many other things that need mailboxes and/or accounts for other purposes and I just can't justify paying for each of them. Instead, I just keep Gmail disabled and only use the features that aren't hobbled. On 2016-04-05 11:

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
I've tried to make the argument before, I can ping the thread again, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'd probably get the consumer version out first, we'll have to make sure that works with free apps domains as well. I know I'm paying for full Google apps for my personal domain after missing too many o

Re: [mailop] no traffic, yet blocked by Hotmail/Outlook/Live

2016-04-05 Thread Michael Beaugh
You have to use the word "ESCALATE" for mitigation to get anything done. Otherwise, you will receive the same canned responses till communication goes dark on their end. Probably have to use "ESCALATE" at least 2 or more times for it to happen and get someone that will honor the request. Michae

Re: [mailop] Webmail

2016-04-05 Thread Alessio Cecchi
Il 03/04/2016 21:18, Doug Barton ha scritto: Sorry if this is off topic, but I'm just curious what folks are using for webmail nowadays. Hi, we are using (also) Sogo. It provider webmail but also calendars/contacts sharing via CardDAV, CalDAV and Exchange ActiveSync, and works very well. h

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Holland
On 2 April 2016 at 00:59, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > Google Apps admins can specify incoming gateways, and we will treat the mail > from them differently because we know it is being forwarded. "This feature is not available in the legacy free edition of Google Apps." I know us freeloaders

Re: [mailop] Webmail

2016-04-05 Thread Luke Thompson
Rainloop works well for us. Roundcube is fallback. Luke Thompson Systems Engineer P: 1800 838 505 M: 0420 320 930 W: https://www.inksystems.com.au On 4/04/2016 5:18 AM, Doug Barton wrote: Sorry if this is off topic, but I'm just curious what folks are using for webmail nowadays. Doug _