Re: [mailop] EHLO/rDNS match

2015-07-06 Thread tqr2813d376cjozqap1l
7. Jul 2015 00:22 by jo...@taugh.com: >> -all only means something if it's by itself, ie as used to say a domain >> never sends email. > > The SPF crowd would claim otherwise, that -all means reject the message > with or without other stuff, but I agree that in practice you can't do that > othe

Re: [mailop] EHLO/rDNS match

2015-07-06 Thread John R Levine
-all only means something if it's by itself, ie as used to say a domain never sends email. The SPF crowd would claim otherwise, that -all means reject the message with or without other stuff, but I agree that in practice you can't do that other than for plain -all meaning we send no mail. Re

Re: [mailop] live.com bulking

2015-07-06 Thread Michael Wise
BTW, just to be absolutely clear, that is just my own thoughts on the subject based on experience in a different area. I have no knowledge, direct or apocryphal, about how this would actually impact deliverability at "Outlook/Hotmail/Live". Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam An

Re: [mailop] live.com bulking

2015-07-06 Thread Michael Wise
Putting "Other Peoples' Links" in your mass mailings ... can be the road to ruin, especially if one of them winds up in a RHSBL like SURBL, URIBL, DBL, etc. My Advice ... is to have a locked down (ie. only *YOU* can add entries to it) redirector at your own domain for such like, but whatever you

Re: [mailop] live.com bulking

2015-07-06 Thread Laura Atkins
On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:14 PM, John Little wrote: > Hi, > > I hope someone can shed some light on this. We've recently, per Return Path > data, had some IP addresses start bulking at Hotmail. This has been off and > on for the last 12 weeks or so - mostly on. > > We've cleaned our list sever

[mailop] live.com bulking

2015-07-06 Thread John Little
Hi, I hope someone can shed some light on this. We've recently, per Return Path data, had some IP addresses start bulking at Hotmail. This has been off and on for the last 12 weeks or so - mostly on. We've cleaned our list several times, inspected our email, kept the unknown user rates low yet