Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Nov 2013, at 7:59, mailmate-l...@seebs.net wrote: A mail server went kerplooie. Sorry to hear that. And the next time I connected to the new server... Mailmate deleted all the messages which had previously been considered to be associated with that account, because they were no longer

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Alasdair Muckart
On 3 Nov 2013, at 19:59, mailmate-l...@seebs.net wrote: I think I've run into this before, with the notion that IMAP's goal is synchronization. But I don't want synchronization; I want to download mail and then keep it forever. I absolutely, positively, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER, want

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Seebs
On 3 Nov 2013, at 2:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: And the next time I connected to the new server... Mailmate deleted all the messages which had previously been considered to be associated with that account, because they were no longer present on the server. Er. That is exactly the opposite

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Seebs
On 3 Nov 2013, at 3:29, Alasdair Muckart wrote: If you want fetch-and-store rather than server-stored you want something like POP rather than IMAP. Fetchmail to a local store you access using IMAP and MailMate would act the way you sound like you need and could be backed up locally. That's b

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:37, Seebs wrote: On 3 Nov 2013, at 2:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I understand that, but as you write yourself then this is how IMAP is supposed to work. Is it, though? I was under the impression there were supposed to be some sanity checks to avoid catastrophic data

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Seebs
On 3 Nov 2013, at 4:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I hope everything goes well. For reference: Mailmate crashed once about 60k messages into the restore, but it appears to have been fairly clean, and the restore is continuing peacefully. So, the local cache is now repopulated, it's just gott

Re: [MlMt] Multiple S/MIME Certificates

2013-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Nov 2013, at 15:05, Scott Blystone wrote: [...] You are certainly as an advanced user as one can be with respect to S/MIME. Ideally, I would like to see MailMate have a combo box for both S/MIME and OpenPGP whereby the sender could select any certificate desired. While one might thi

Re: [MlMt] Multiple S/MIME Certificates

2013-11-03 Thread Scott Blystone
On 3 Nov 2013, at 5:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: ... Ok, I can see that it's not enough to be able to bind a sender address to a specific key/certificate as it is currently possible when using [OpenPGP](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#openpgp). Maybe I should allow multiple

Re: [MlMt] 5by5

2013-11-03 Thread Bruce Steinberg
>> If there are any 5by5 jackals in the room, you know Dan Benjamin does >> a mean ad read. Get one of the alpha nerds hooked on MailMate and they >> will sing its praises until everyone HAS to buy it. I'd go for Brett Terpstra. He's a Markdown fanatic and loves low level tweaking. I think Mail

Re: [MlMt] Multiple S/MIME Certificates

2013-11-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Nov 2013, at 14:12, Scott Blystone wrote: Well, just to throw more gasoline on the fire, I also have multiple OpenPGP keys for the same identities and have been even more involved with that community! I know it's asking a lot, but something similar to what we've been discussing would also

Re: [MlMt] Multiple S/MIME Certificates

2013-11-03 Thread Scott Blystone
On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: ... And how do they do it? The best way of describing this was to show you some screenshots. I've put them in my public Dropbox folder, and here are the links: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3102272/SMIME%20Selection.tiff https://dl.d

Re: [MlMt] 5by5

2013-11-03 Thread Daniel Mann
On 3 Nov 2013, at 9:10, Bruce Steinberg wrote: If there are any 5by5 jackals in the room, you know Dan Benjamin does a mean ad read. Get one of the alpha nerds hooked on MailMate and they will sing its praises until everyone HAS to buy it. I'd go for Brett Terpstra. He's a Markdown fanatic a