Hi folks,
Dreadfully behind on things. Wanted to ask this quickly though so I offer
solid direction.
Many if not more than many complain about the use of flash for accessing
on line stuff, audio as well as video.
Since flash is generally not welcome across the board, what is?
I hear about HTML
Two quick questions.
that industry standard framework means, one can perform exactly the same
functions accessibly?
Second, will they be issuing a stand alone reader with the access too, or
is one still chained to a computer for this?
Thanks,
Karen
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Mary Otten wrote:
I ju
Hi Mary,
Given your informative and direct connection, do you mind asking? Some if
not many would appreciate a stand alone reader I am sure.
Thanks for sharing,
Karen
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Mary Otten wrote:
I just had a nice exchange with the lead for the Barnes and Noble accessibility
team.
Tim,
terrific article, and I agree with you.
Perhaps I am an innocent, but even those bugs one might get from a windows
user are not going to harm your mac. I tend to guess that those who are
seriously running virtual environments where windows remains an important
part of their computing lif
Wondering if there is one since I am saving far more than I am reading
these days.
Thanks,
Karen
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really?
Then this, like pro tools, is another piece of mac programming that works
in the outspoken 9.22 setup, but not in voiceover.
Karen
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
> No it isn't.
>
> Gregory Kearney
> Manager - Accessible Media
> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
May be off topic, but I know many here are strong, especially with audio
hijack pro and itunes.
this gig will be paid for the right person.
need someone to grab some audio via stream using audio hijack pro, and
burn it along with some other files to a CD. Its a gift, and I will pay
via paypal
Greetings,
Thanks for all the offers and questions. We have our recordist thanks!
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Hi,
did not see this here, but if it was posted already I apologize.
something to share broadly including to those who produce radio and
other media that may benefit.
Karen
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From: Mary Watkins
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Hi May,
When seeking something really specialized, I tend to use Google or some
other search option with a very specific search like the following:
Amy grant "arms of love" mp3?
I am assuming that mp3 files are okay for you. There are a lot of
christian music sites out there, but you will have
is ok, smile. I've found places
> but they want crazy prices for the download and I'm just not doing that for
> one song.
> On 2009-11-14, at 7:11 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi May,
>> When seeking something really specialized, I tend to use Google or so
They can be a divine gift for a computer user. I learned about them from
Lachie who makes the drive I store audio on when using pro tools. When
the firewire port on my drive's case got damaged, they suggested finding
an enclosure instead of the more costly drive replacement..even sent me
som
n Nov 15, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>>
>> They can be a divine gift for a computer user. I learned about them from
>> Lachie who makes the drive I store audio on when using pro tools. When
>> the firewire port on my drive's case got damaged, they su
I got this on another list. They cannot be serious? Can you imagine what
this would sound like, not to mention the gross intrusion on computing?
The list of possible places for these ads, is frightening.
Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/16/intrusive_apple_ad_patent/
Apple
has their site moved?
Forgive me if I missed some posting on this. I tend to save posts from
here for reading later, and wanted to go back to some of the articles.
I am getting errors when trying to reach them though.
thanks,
Karen
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Just wondering, have you contacted someone at the station directly?
They may not even know the situation exists.
Karen
On Sun, 16 May 2010, Lynn Schneider wrote:
I am very interested in all things Alaska, especially mountaineering in Alaska,
so I really like a public radio station from the
anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
will send the data specifics if that Will help.
thanks,
Karen
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anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
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nothing, discarding
the machine totally once I know pro tools is really solid.
Thanks for the info though,
Karen
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Kaare Dehard wrote:
if it is an intel processor it will run snowy just fine, and voiceover as well.
On 2010-05-17, at 6:42 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Tiger, but
/ g4 boundry?
On 18/05/2010, Kaare Dehard wrote:
now if you could get you leopard to tide you over, it will run on the g3.
On 2010-05-17, at 7:07 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
I have a feeling, there is my issue. I was told it was, but when someone
checked the numbers, it is listed as a g3, which
. Nothing
newer than what you currently have.
Anyone mind confirming the g3 / g4 boundry?
On 18/05/2010, Kaare Dehard wrote:
now if you could get you leopard to tide you over, it will run on the g3.
On 2010-05-17, at 7:07 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
I have a feeling, there is my issue. I was told it
all these programs like logic and pro tools are
becoming usable by us; I can't wait to dip my tows into logic.
On 18/05/2010, Karen Lewellen wrote:
The last report from Jerry was spring. Granted they have been promising
this for a grand while now, so I will make changes after its no more th
PC one, such as a g3, or g4, you're not
going to be able to. THe latest OS that you'll be able to, would be Tiger.
On May 17, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
will send the data specifics if that Will help.
thanks,
K
27;t agree with you more about Apple's innovation and how
Apple really reaches out to all consumers!
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs
On May 18, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
this is a fun topic.
I invite you to think about
r needs etc, then to you
personally, it's not out dated.
Cameron.
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leges I attended were all windows territory
so I figured I might as well play ball.
Cameron.
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laughter!
i was feeling the same. I got my answer long ago. Tiger is all this might
do, making it not worth the upgrade, since as it is now it works fine for
my personal needs.
Once pro tools gives me a reason, I can simply get another machine.
Kare
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote
ade and retrofit their Mini, though, they could have just as well bought a nice
iMac, with a far larger 3.5" form-factor drive and faster CPU.
Bryan
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S
r and a follower", Steve Jobs
On May 18, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> this is a fun topic.
> I invite you to think about computers slightly differently, say like a
>
mode of transportation.
> There are some who do not feel their needs are met unless they are
Hi folks,
I have suggested that Glenn join the list, given how wisdom flows over
here.
Still, here is his problem.
Answers may be directed to his e-mail which I have left in place.
Will forward anything that comes to the list itself.
Karen
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I will reserve comment on Freedom Scientific as a company. While I too
feel for those who will lose their jobs, I am more concerned for those who
are emotionally attached to jfw. Those who feel they have no choice but
to use windows. Those who are told that everyone uses jfw, and that you
a
ed to see them loose some of their strangle hold on the
market.
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
I will reserve comment on Freedom Scientific as a company. While I too feel
for those who wi
your situation demonstrates something important.
You and users like you have rarely if ever been who freedom scientific
considered their market.
Instead its the agencies, largely staffed with people who Neither
understand fully or use at all the products that they feel is their
market. Therefo
Hi Olivia,
this may seem like a simple suggestion, but I just worked for me.
We have a setup here at shellworld that lets me search google news directly
and in text.
I went there and entered the following.
wwdc keynote?
It brought up a number of stories on the keynote, including one at the
S
Just wondering.
given it is facebooks problem on the site construction, not the browser,
and given they have abandoned the workable facebook like door, at least
according to the mac accessability newsletter I noticed, is anyone going to
challengefacebook?
After all target got roasted, and the
Actually, if they have not removed the physical mouse click requirement
for even logging in, you may not be able to get very far.
Karen
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote:
lol. you make this sound so easy. I had my GF help me create an account on the
avid site. I don't understand whe
Not totally sure on that minority claim.
fro many many years, apple had the apple core program where they donated
apple computers to schools around the country.
I went to high school in Arkansas...a grand while ago, and the computers
we had were apple computers.
You might be surprised how many
Hi Jess,
This is a serious issue, one that absolutely cannot be managed from a
faction standpoint. Anyone who has issues managing regular print, and
indeed those with learning disabilities use screen reading technology,
will be ousted if the trend continues.
I collect print books, and use my
Hi folks,
I have shared with some privately that one of my worries about the new
accessible-tools is that it will not features important to those
of us who work in broadcast journalism need the same way we have them
addressed in the present pro tools structure.
Pro tools is an industry standar
; it stands right now, it's not accessible, the journalist edition looks
> like i remember Audacity, many unknowns. The developer is aware of this
> and is working on the a11y both of the app and the Journalist for the
> Mac.
> /Krister
>
>
> 10 mar 2010 kl. 06.48 skrev
r is aware of this and is working
on the a11y both of the app and the Journalist for the Mac.
/Krister
10 mar 2010 kl. 06.48 skrev Karen Lewellen:
Hi folks,
I have shared with some privately that one of my worries about the new
accessible-tools is that it will not features important to those
Audacity, many unknowns. The developer is aware of this and is working
on the a11y both of the app and the Journalist for the Mac.
/Krister
10 mar 2010 kl. 06.48 skrev Karen Lewellen:
Hi folks,
I have shared with some privately that one of my worries about the new
accessible-tools is that it w
I have one very strong piece of advice for you.
Unless you want to risk this individuals rights to service, you
absolutely must direct this question, including telling the service that
you asked on this list to the nls arena that manages downloads.
I have no idea why anyone would think nls boo
Hi folks,
we may figure it out before this hits the list but just in case.
I have a radio colleague getting audio from my ftp site using safari,
sometimes I have seen this, they cannot even log in.
what is the solution? permissions or something else?
the audio is on my ftp site, so sending it e
no log in page.
no files of course if she tries anonymous, its not a public ftp.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Sarah Alawami wrote:
What error are you geting?
Take care.On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:03 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
we may figure it out before this hits the list but just in case.
I
program such as cyberduc
to connect and download from the FTP server.
Hope this helps.
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Sent: 11 March 2010 15:04
To: list voiceover
Subject: ftp question?
Hi folks
ftp://ftp.username:passw...@domain.com
I think that's how you would enter it in. I have not done it in a while.
On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
no log in page.
no files of course if she tries anonymous, its not a public ftp.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Sarah Alawami wrote:
Hi all,
its for a friend, my mac is not ready for i-tunes smiles.
she says the program goes through her machine and apparently ipod and will
remove things it does not think should be there? stuff she may have copied
over but not gotten from the store?
I can send her explanation if this does n
Hi Esther,
asking this out of curiosity?
We have a station here n Toronto who has just switched to providing their
podcasts only via itunes, as in the link looks for itnues on your computer
before even letting you consider getting the show, smiles.
It is frustrating as I was previously subscribe
It does seem like a fine deal.
But, what can you now do with an ipad that you could not do with any other
apple tool you already own? That is for those who own many.
Not being provocative, just wondering.
When I consider investing in a new technical tool it is because there is
something I wis
n portland.
Sorry to get off topic
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Subject: Re: Used an iPad today
It does seem like a fine deal.
But, what can you now do with an ipad that you could not do with any other
apple tool you a
greetings,
One thing I have not seen in this thread, likely because it is a given. I
take it you can save your documents and spreadsheets in formats that can be
used by those still stuck in windows office programs?
Karen
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, olivia norman wrote:
Very true. The mac makes pr
Greetings list,
My friend John is wondering if anyone here who has and is actively using
an ipad would be willing to share your experiences with one of his
writers.
If there is an article it would be published here
www.thebrightsideofnews.com
there are some on the ipad there already I under
Hi all,
I just learned today that my mobile phone provider here in Toronto has the
i-phone. I want to step into a store and see what it is like.
Any tips, in case the sales person is clueless about the access features?
May as well add a goofy ipad question too. is everyone using one
actually
, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi all,
I just learned today that my mobile phone provider here in Toronto has the
i-phone. I want to step into a store and see what it is like.
Any tips, in case the sales person is clueless about the access features?
May as well add a goofy ipad question too. is everyone
h models this might work with. It may just work as a feature that is not
officially supported. Here's the link to the TUAW article, "Dear Aunt TUAW:
Can I use a USB keyboard or headset with my iPad?" by Erica Sadun, April 23,
2010:
<http://www.tuaw.com/2010/04/23/dear-aunt-tu
be enough information for our writer and the
publisher to consider the article idea.
Again, THANKS, for responding.
John O
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Greetings list,
My friend John is wondering if anyone here who has and is actively using an
ipad would be willing to share your experiences with
Hi,
Agreed with Scott, and might we have the statement here?
When I followed the link I only reached the pages of those who have
signed, and an invitation to add mine which is already there.
Karen
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
> Hey Jerry,
>
> Thanks for posting this man, I'd ha
Again in defense of NLs.
It is a library, Library content is free. Not downloadable at a cost as
in that of getting to the items. Not offered for a subscription, but
free.
The players are to serve the majority of their readership who are
older, or children, or whatever, and again be
free.
T
Hi Folks,
This is off topic, but I recall that someone on this list, one of the
Chris' I believe, is or was doing some mediation or legal support work.
If this is still the case, do you mind writing me off list? I may require
your services.
Thanks,
Karen
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i am using your hardware though.
Here is the article for those experiencing difficulty.
>From klewel...@server1.shellworld.net Tue Aug 25 15:20:40 2009
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Karen Lewellen
Looking for one of these, and thought you never know.
If you are in Canada so much the better as I am a touch time limited.
Will even consider renting one of these as I require it for travel.
Thanks in advance,
Karen L
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Hi all,
A grand while I think? I posted here about some mac based tools for adding
captioning and audio descriptions to our own line video. Think more long
firm class materials than say something on youtube.
I cannot find it again though, I think it came from the u. s. captioning
center.
Anyw
When is best to do this?
I have a full sized apple keyboard tusb, that I am going to attach to the
macbookpro I have on borrow, in order to see if I can work with greater
ease. My hands are simply too small for vo commands that are on the same
side of the keyboard, and I have already decided w
I have referenced this option before.
robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
provides a number of pdf conversion options, mostly via e-mail.
if you send our file to
conv...@robobraille.org
and specify the desired format change in the subject line only
say
txt
they will send you back a converted document
Hi all,
forgive me if this sounds a bit unusual, but I am wondering just what you can
do with the ap, say compared to..lets be very basic, opening a HTML copy
of a book you got from project Gutenberg
by which I mean, if I have a copy of something like oh, "Great
Expectations," by Charles Dicke
ine. So you can copy a full page into a word processor
and edit it there. A sighted person would have to take a screen shot to copy parts of a
protected book, and that would not, of course, be in text form.
Cheers,
Anne
On 15 Sep 2011, at 16:46, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi all,
forgive me if th
I share the below as I realize some here may be running their mac in a
virtual setup with Linux.
Not to mention some might want to chip in and see how this tool might be
expanded, perhaps for mac use.
Hope it helps,
Karen
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:07:03 +0200
From: Jos Lemmens
Hi all,
On my
Sharing here in case others have not seen this. Google should know how
diverse access is these days, and that keeping the baseline access in
place helps everyone.
Share far and wide,
Karen
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Subject: Google working t
Speaking of which. Music publisher is supposed to work for mac, not sure
as to accessibility though as it is somewhat vague.
As for the program in question, I recall the company is rather cozy with
freedom scientific / jaws. Perhaps someone or several someone's should
document to them how ma
Perhaps the better question for you and the other seeker is this. Is
there anything you cannot presently do with the mac you have in the os you
use?
A mac is not like windows, you need not upgrade just because Gates got gas as
the joke goes. If your needs are met, then the answer is no. after
I am unfortunately no longer on the midi mag list. still someone asked me
about cubase, so am wondering if anyone is using it on their mac, even if
virtually with windows 7?
Thanks,
Karen
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All,
It is with deep sadness that I share that Steve Jobs has died at the age
of 56.
May his talent and legasy live on in the tools we use to rock the world
in our own way.
Karen
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Not to frown at mister. walker's youtube video...but this one is more fun.
its part of an article in rolling stone a feature done in 1984. I was
enjoying myself so much reading it that I forgot they do not do single page
formats. II have I hope included the link to the actual piece however.
Hi all,
In fact my friend Rita wishes to join the list. I am including her address
in the to field hoping a mod can subscribe her. I wrote privately about
this a while back, but it seems she still cannot join.
for the moment though I am going to post her questions and share the answers.
she h
Bucciarelli wrote:
Hi:
Pages works great! You do not need to defray your mac. No registry keys!
On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi all,
In fact my friend Rita wishes to join the list. I am including her address in
the to field hoping a mod can subscribe her. I wrote privately
en again, one can get frustrated with
Word on the PC as well.
Later...
On 2011-10-18, at 12:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi all,
In fact my friend Rita wishes to join the list. I am including her address in
the to field hoping a mod can subscribe her. I wrote privately about this a
while back,
Hi all,
In case you do not know what those are. Its a program for learning
another language that totally submerges you into the process.
Would the mac edition be voiceover compatible?
Karen
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I'll ever be able to
buy them again. They cost me way over $400.00 back in 2003!
Good luck, have fun with Rosetta; and, please let me how it is working out
for you. Would love to buy the discs again for my Leopard and Snow Leopard
MacBook Pros!
JG
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Karen
Hi All,
I promised to share this, and I am sorry it took longer than planned. I
must admit that since my dad's recent passing, I can have a hard time
getting things done.
Anyway, it totally amazing, the article, not just because of what it
reveals about Jobs, but about how he was thinking ahea
Did others catch the 60 minutes program tonight? Besides the story on Jobs
himself, there was a second one.
Individuals who have the form of autism that prevents them from speaking
are using voiceover in their ipods to communicate for the first time.
honestly that made me cry.
Parents and child
Hi Teresa,
I liked that as well a tool is only as strong or as weak as the human
using it.
Thanks on the condolences, a time to remember where my power lies to be
sure.
lastly...
On the other hand there are different fingers.
lol!
too funny, especially just put at the end like that with no
Hi,
Just a couple of comments, I have not read the bio yet. Still the book is
not a history of apple computers. Instead its a bio from a father to his
children so they understand him and why he made the time choices he did.
As for Jobs involvement inaccessibility, bare in mind that there have
Hi folks,
For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal
department at paypal -ebay. Part of the reason is that, as some of you
may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf
files, or they will lose their account. Because of this and some o
t; order and, once pressed, moves focus to the text input. Not much else
> needed beyond that.
>
> CB
>
> On 11/8/11 6:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the
> > legal department
Hi,
Would someone mind doing me a favor?
I believe many here realize I am not fully an apple user for other
physical reasons, some I am happy to say I am in the process
transforming.
Still, Scott, here in Canada accessibility is already a human right, truth
be told it is also in the state of ne
rates?
CB
On 7/9/17 4:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi,
Would someone mind doing me a favor?
I believe many here realize I am not fully an apple user for other
physical reasons, some I am happy to say I am in the process transforming.
Still, Scott, here in Canada accessibility is already a h
Hi folks,
One for the Canadians here. Please share this if you can.
Kare
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Trainer
JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
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Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:21, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
One for the Canadians here. Please share this if you can.
Kare
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Hi folks,
I have a friend who is a former apple staffer. she is updating the contact
information on my website. The site is done in HTML, and she wants to
know a good html editor for the mac?
Thanks,
Kare
special symbols, and you have a text editor for editing HTML. This is how I
did most of my code when I had a Mac.
On July 22, 2017 9:16:34 PM Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
I have a friend who is a former apple staffer. she is updating the contact
information on my website. The site is done in
your encoding improperly, whether you change any of it or not. Best, Eric
On July 23, 2017 1:56:51 PM Karen Lewellen wrote:
To the best of my knowledge text editing is not the goal here. None of
the
page coding will be changed, just my off ice address / number on the
contacts page.
Kare
O
d. wrote:
If that is all you want to change a simple text editor is the perfect tool.
A html editor would be overkill.
Html coding is plain text encased within a set of text characters to render
function and format when a browser encounters them.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote
xt
file, wade through (and otherwise ignore) all the markup and just modify
the text related to your address or the like. In other words, you can
probably do this yourself.
CB
On 7/24/17 8:46 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
I am not doing the editing myself. Instead, as requested by the person
doing
Hi,
Granted I cannot be certain this will work because of copyright. Still,
robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
will convert epub books into things like rtf which might? be accessed from
another program.
Because the conversion is supported by educational institutions, his
school might assist wi
My goodness!
Thanks for that read.
I am thinking how helpful wireless charging may be in emergency
preparedness situations.
Although I may be missing something obvious, the article hints that the
wireless charging runs on radio waves?
As in electromagnetic spectrum?
A few years back we had a
now, this is an arena where Apple can start filtering positive images
into popular culture.
For allot of those who do not understand adaptive technology,, its because
they have not seen the technology in use.
have a restaurant scene? put a couple at a table, one with a service
animal or a cane
Wow, what a fine illustration of app research.
Ahem, there is no evolving standard, if a user says no, then that means
no.
Thanks for sharing,
Kare
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if the
They do exist in Canada, but I suspect that sweet a deal is not on the
menu here.
Kare
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love co
Hi folks,
for those using or interested in music notation, I am wondering if you
have considered musescore?
musescore.org
I just learned about it tonight. there are mac Linux and windows
editions
Anyone give it a go?
Kare
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"No one is born hating another person because of the color of h
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