Re: Here is a Link to the VoiceOver Accessible Version of Apple’s Swift Playground Coding Guide

2019-02-24 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries
> On 23 Feb 2019, at 06:59, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello All, > > A couple of days ago, Apple Support tweeted this link out to everyone. I > knew I had seen it somewhere: > > The link in this email points to the page from which you may download the > ePub version of the Playground coding

Re: Here is a Link to the VoiceOver Accessible Version of Apple’s Swift Playground Coding Guide

2019-02-24 Thread Oriol Gómez
I'm sorry to bring this up but... So much for making XCode accessible and Swift and all that, interface builder is still a pain as far as I know. Can't make outlets, can't connections and all that crap. I just can't help thinking that this is another case of oh, we work for accessibility but yeah,

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Mark, Yeah, the four speakers almost got me to buy a pro. That would be pretty amazing. The standard also has touch ID, and from what I've read online, the differences in speed aren't that significant. so the speakers and the smart connector were the only things that made me want the pro.

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread lenron brown
Wow it sucks that they were trying so hard to sell you the latest and greatest. Kind of pushy I say. On 2/24/19, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > Hey Mark, > > Yeah, the four speakers almost got me to buy a pro. That would be pretty > amazing. > > The standard also has touch ID, and fr

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Nah, they weren't pushy. I asked what the differences were. I had ruled out the Pro because of the price tag, but then I decided I ought to at least know what I'm giving up before I buy. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 8:16 AM, lenron brown wrote: > > Wow it sucks that they were trying

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Mark, Is there a consistent split location? Perhaps if you put a dot or sticker at the dividing spot between left and right panels it would get easier to use. > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Donna. > > Wow! Good for you. Congratulations on your new iPad. > > I pur

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries
Donna, you are quite right that the 10.5 inch iPad Pro does not have a massively better performance than the cheap 2018 iPad, though the larger iPad Pro is a much faster beast: see review https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/11/29/which-of-apples-2018-ipad-or-ipad-pro-models-should-you-buy Stick

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey again, Mark, I'm having trouble getting used to navigating the screen, too. At this point, I find I'm doing a lot more swiping around, which kind of negates the benefits of a touch screen. But for example, it seems like the only way I can get out of a settings menu is to swipe all the way

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jonathan, It seems to me that the split location moves around, depending on where you touch the screen. I could be wrong about that, but that's how it seems. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Mark, > > Is there a consistent split location? Perhaps if y

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
That is normal. A business is not going to survive if it does not make sales. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/24/2019 6:16 AM, lenron brown wrote: Wow it sucks that they were trying so hard t

Removing lines from a forwarded email

2019-02-24 Thread Paul Parravano
Hello list, Can some one remind me please if there is a keystroke that will remove the quote lines on the left side of an email that has been forwarded one or more times? Many thanks in advance. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If

Re: Screenshots

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I didn't see that option but since I know where the shots go now, it is good. It actually is set to send to the desktop. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/23/2019 9:58 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacV

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Donna, Its easier with a keyboard and a braille display. Keep in mind the iPad uses containers. For instance, when you select settings, the options show up in a separate container on the right. You cannot use the navigate to first or last item in there. These will not take you to the first

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Donna, I'm with you. If I may, how much did you pay for your new iPad? I only ask because I'm confused on which model you purchased. This is to say, when I go to the Apple store, they refer to the latest 9.7 inch iPad as iPad 128. However, when I read the 9 to 5 iPad article, they refer

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Lenron, I found the experience totally offensive. Unlike my usual position of absolute certainty, I was a bit on the proverbial fense about which model to buy. So, you can understand, then, when I was dismayed that they were less interested in my particular needs than they were in simpl

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Harry, Thank you for posting this very excellent article. Aside from the author being a complete shill for the latest iPad Pro, this article only serves to confirm that I definitely made the right decision, for me. (smile). Mark From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionar

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna, Yes, I have found the same, with regard to swiping in order to find certain buttons. I am also using the scrub jester, a great deal. I've heard wonderful things about that Logitek keyboard case. So far, I'm not that impressed with the Apple Smart Keyboard. It's thin but it's n

Accessing Printer via IP Address

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I want to access the printer's administrative settings by using its IP address. The browser, either Windows or Mac, will complain that its an insecure site. On both I was able to get it working. Apparently though, this no longer works. Is there a better way to achieve this? I used https;

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
So here's the funny story about that. This iPad is listed at $430. When I got home yesterday and started setting up the iPad, I realized that the BestBuy guy had given me the 32GB model instead of the 128. As you might imagine, I was kind of irritated, as I was looking forward to spending a s

Re: Removing lines from a forwarded email

2019-02-24 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Paul, If you are wanting to change the quote level, you increase it with Cmd-apostrophe and decrease it with Cmd-Option-apostrophe. Otherwise, you can just select all the text you want to put at the top level then go to the top of the document and paste and match style (Cmd-Option-Shift-v

Re: Removing lines from a forwarded email

2019-02-24 Thread Paul Parravano
Works perfectly and thank you Anne. Paul > On Feb 24, 2019, at 13:49, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Paul, > > If you are wanting to change the quote level, you increase it with > Cmd-apostrophe and decrease it with Cmd-Option-apostrophe. Otherwise, you can > just select all the text you

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Mark, Given the whole thing with the return, I'm just now getting the iPad set up, so can't say much yet about the keyboard. But I will definitely let you know, and maybe ET can answer your questions in the meantime. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hel

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
I agree with you E.T., However, Apple was going to make a sale, one way or the other. In one scenario, they give a customer what he wants and thereby almost certainly assures future sales. In the other scenario, they offend the customer, making him distrust the validity of the integrity of b

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread KliphnShari Miller
What keyboard did you get/ > On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:56 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hey Mark, > > Given the whole thing with the return, I'm just now getting the iPad set up, > so can't say much yet about the keyboard. But I will definitely let you > know, and maybe E

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread KliphnShari Miller
That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also. Has no function keys, no escape key, and is over priced. At least the Logitech model provides edge to edge protection if you do drop it. I had the 6th ten 2018 model, but sold it and got the iPad Pro 2018 model. Waiting for the keyboard made by

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kliff, I'm glad to learn that I am not the only one who is disappointed in the Apple Smart Keyboard. It looks great! It's only when one wants to use it, does it become a problem. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@goog

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Mark. Based on the experiences you and Donna had, I think, if I ever get to do it, I would do all my research first then head to the Apple store and tell them exactly which Macbook Pro I want. (grins) I wish. My mini 4 does fine so no worries there. I do wonder if some sales folks have

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Logitech. Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:06 PM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > What keyboard did you get/ > > >> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:56 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hey Mark, >> >> Given the whole thing with the return, I'm just now getting the iPad set up, >> s

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup is having a home key again, and having function keys. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:09 PM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > That smart keyboard for the 11 inch sucks also. Has no function keys, no > escape key, and

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
And an escape key? (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/24/2019 11:19 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Yeah, I have to say one thing that makes me really happy about this setup

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Yep! Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:20 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > And an escape key? (smiles) > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 2/24/2019 11:19 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread KliphnShari Miller
Yes, Logitech was right on the money with that keyboard. Wish they would make a version for the iPad Pro 11 inch. That is my only regret of upgrading. That keyboardd has functions that make you think your using a laptop. You can hide and unhide the onscreen keyboard, this is most handy when

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Wow, that's cool! I hadn't figured all that out yet. This keyboard also has some nice heft to it. There were two Logitech keyboards, but the other one seemed a little flimsier than this one. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:22 PM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > Yes, Logitech was right o

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread KliphnShari Miller
Below is a little cheat sheet I wrote up when using that Logitech keyboard, enjoy iPad Keyboard commands Safari Toggle single key navigation on and off voiceover keys Q Reload Page, ⌘, R Back, ⌘, [ Forward, ⌘, ] Find on Page, ⌘, F Open Location, ⌘, L Show Sidebar, ⇧ ⌘, L Add to Reading List, ⇧ ⌘

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
This is awesome, Kliph! thanks! Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:27 PM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > Below is a little cheat sheet I wrote up when using that Logitech keyboard, > enjoy > iPad Keyboard commands > > Safari > > Toggle single key navigation on and off voiceover keys Q > Reload P

Re: where have people encountered the phrase "has alternate items" with VoiceOver

2019-02-24 Thread Slau Halatyn
Thanks. I actually found just such a custom menu in the Apple Photos app. Got what I needed. Cheers, Slau. > On Feb 23, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I have seen this on i think the full screen buttons in some applications. > I think they use to be in the toolbar. > /A >

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase? It does not have any function keys, either. (Big Smile). Mark -Original Message- From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegro

Re: Accessing Printer via IP Address

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Normally, you only need to enter the IP, without the http or https, the browser will figure it out. In Safari, there's usually a View link or button where you and look at the site anyway. It will ask for your Admin password to approve this, but since it is your printer, it should be fine.

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread lenron brown
Youch on that keyboard. I shouldn't be surprised but come on. On 2/24/19, M. Taylor wrote: > Oh yeah, this $150 Apple Smart Keyboard I purchase? It does not have any > function keys, either. (Big Smile). > > Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > [mail

Re: Screenshots

2019-02-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I think there is a setting in Dropbox dealing with screenshots. So, if you want those shots to go to the desktop try looking at Dropbox settings. > On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I didn't see that option but since I know where the shots go now, it is >

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, While I'm not defending the price of the Smart keyboard for the iPad, I'd like to mention a few things to clear up some perceived confusion. Yes, there is specifically no Escape key, but Apple did make a VO keyboard command to compensate. Press VO+`, the top left key where Escape would no

Re: Accessing Printer via IP Address

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Oh yes. Well that had me jumping through hoops, talking about certificates, this is not a private connection and all that. I finally got in. I will try it again later and see if I need to jump through more hoops. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have

Re: Screenshots

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Yes that is correct and apparently overrides the setting in the screenshot toolbar, which is fine now that I know where they go. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/24/2019 12:17 PM, Jonathan Cohn

Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all, Well, I can't get the iPad into the case. I looked online, and it says to press down on all four corners. Every time I try, one corner pops up. It's as though the case is just the tiniest bit too small. I'm afraid if I push any harder, I'm going to break the iPad. Is there some tric

Re: Accessing Printer via IP Address

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, You usually don't need to bother viewing the certificates, as they are mostly Greek anyway. But, viewing the page is fine. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 24, 2019, at 13:45, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Oh y

AD with movies on the Mac

2019-02-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hello all, I have a few movies on my iPhone purchased Through iTunes with audio description. I haven’t downloaded them to my Mac yet, do I need to turn on audio description in accessibility like we do on the iPhone? Thank you, Petrus Sent from Petrus' MacBook -- The following information is

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Lay the LogicTech keyboard flat on the table, place the iPad between the corner things as best you can, with the Home button to the right side. Press down firmly, but slowly on both sides at the same time until it snaps into all four corners. You won't break the iPad, but if there's a man

Re: AD with movies on the Mac

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Yes. It's in System Preferences, Accessibility. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 24, 2019, at 14:39, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Hello all, I have a few movies on my iPhone purchased Through iTunes with audio description

Reading Siri Results With Voiceover

2019-02-24 Thread Pete De Vasto
Hi all, I just set up a microphone on my Mac mini, and wanted to do some things with Siri. One of the things was to ask her about the weather in a particular city, let’s say, Los Angeles, CA. She dutifully came back and said “OK, here’s the weather in Los Angeles”, but that was it. I couldn’t f

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Maybe there is a manufacturer defect. I'm doing exactly what you describe. When I push down I can feel it snap into place, but the minute I release the pressure, it pops back up. Thanks, Tim. Donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 3:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Lay the

Re: Here is a Link to the VoiceOver Accessible Version of Apple’s Swift Playground Coding Guide

2019-02-24 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey oriol, Just want to chime in for the outlet connections etc. it's all accessible on xcode. I never had a problem since version 8.x over a few years ago. if you got some specific problems, let me know and I can try to help you out. Cheers > On 25 Feb 2019, at 12:00 am, Oriol Gómez wrote

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Have you made sure that all of the packaging and stickers have been removed? I had the same for my cover on my iPhone and my wife told me off for not removing everything. There was a very thin clear smooth plastic sheet on the inside of the cover that was stopping me from pushing it in properly.

Re: AD with movies on the Mac

2019-02-24 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks Tim, AD is checked now, suppose I should have tried to find it first before asking but I was being lazy. > On 25/02/2019, at 10:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes. It's in System Preferences, Accessibility. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher

Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread Mary Jo Partyka
Thanks you Clift for sending this. Mary Jo Partyka choir...@gmail.com > On Feb 24, 2019, at 2:27 PM, KliphnShari Miller wrote: > > Below is a little cheat sheet I wrote up when using that Logitech keyboard, > enjoy > iPad Keyboard commands > > Safari > > Toggle single key navigation on and

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Nope. After yet a third trip to BestBuy, turns out the bozo sold me a keyboard that wasn't supposed to work with the 128. I'm now back home, and have my iPad installed and successfully paired with the correct keyboard. Now I just have to get used to a BT keyboard again. Cheers, Donna > On Fe

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Glad it's all worked out. Sales people at some of these places aren't the sharpest pencils in the box, and/or just aren't particularly careful. Lucky it wasn't hundreds of miles away like it would be in my world. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) For

RE: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna, Well, I guess it must be iPad buying season. Believe it or not, I went with a friend over to Best Buy today. While there, my friend decided to get iPad 2018, 9.7 inch. (smile) As for me? I spent quite a while with the Logitech keyboard. The only one they have costs about $150.

RE: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad?

2019-02-24 Thread M. Taylor
This is great info, Tim. Thank you. Mark From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad? Hi, While I'm not defending the

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
We've generally had pretty good luck at this BestBuy, but certainly didn't this time. And I guess I'll stop feeling sorry for myself for not having a local Apple Store. Sounds like you are pretty remote. Cheers, donna > On Feb 24, 2019, at 6:59 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: >

Re: Accessing Printer via IP Address

2019-02-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I was able to access the printer again from Safari history. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/24/2019 1:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, You usually don't need to bother viewi

Re: Help getting iPad into Logitech Keyboard case

2019-02-24 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hey Mark, I know what you mean about the hard shell feel of the Logitech, but I do love having function keys again. I don't hate the touch bar on my MBP, but I don't love it either, so I don't think the Apple Smart keyboard will hold much appeal for me. Keep me posted on your progress. I'm w