Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

Hi, I too believe that a mailing list for VO beta testers would be better than a thread here. /Krister > 13 juli 2015 kl. 01:37 skrev E.T. : > > The proposal does have merit. The difficulty comes in when people are not > on board with it so it will fail. Maybe I am too cynical. > > It woul

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

Not confirmed here. No issues at all. /Krister > 13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf : > > So there's a bug in the Open File dialog when trying to open any type of file > from any application. > Can anybody else duplicate? VoiceOver just busy freezes. > > On 7/13/2015 2:30 AM, E.T. wrote: >> Well

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

Hi! I have to turn off quicknav to be able to view the list of mails. Also i can not use quicknav in any menu. /A > 13 juli 2015 kl. 04:50 skrev Devin Prater : > > One bug I found is with the new window spots menu. When selecting, for > example, the messages table in Mail, the content navigator o

RE: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

Why do you keep posting these things?? You must like reading your own emails From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 23:05 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Is anyone having iss

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not tested on the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system. On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Not confirmed here. No issues at all. /Krister 13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf : So there's a bug in the Open File di

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

I'll write you off list about what I'm seeing: but yes, same issues. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in > On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Chris

problems setting up a Macbook Pro

There are a couple of oddities I do not understand. The first is that if I am in a list view, which is the default in finder’s view options, the down arrow will consistently say empty desktop and take me there and out of the list. Up arrow works properly. If I interact, and use the vo commands,

Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

Nightowl doesn't use internet accounts, look in prefs. On 7/13/2015 2:20 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: There are a couple of oddities I do not understand. The first is that if I am in a list view, which is the default in finder’s view options, the down arrow will consistently say empty desktop a

Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

Hi, I’m not sure about how to fix your first issue, but as for Night Owl, you have to add the account manually through preferences>accounts in night owl itself. Just setting up the account through internet accounts enables sharing to twitter and getting notifications of DMs and mentions through

Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

Hi there You shouldn’t have to interact with Finder a lot. Personally, on the Mac, I like column view although others feel differently. If you want column view, press command 3. This will let you go up and down through your folders with just the up and down arrows, and then press right arrow to

Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

Hi, I agree about using column view. Since I was a Windows user prior to switching, this made the most sense and closest view to emulate a tree view found in the PC arena. Best, Eileen experience > On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi there > You shouldn’t have to int

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

Honestly, I rolled back to the dev preview. Though it's a pain in my butt, at least the developer online bug reporter works. When, and if, they fix the feedback assistant, I'm sure I'll hear about it on this list. Especially given how many people wanna break the NDA. Once it's fixed, I'll

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

Hi! I was testing to submit a file but it was really a pain in the butt. It was complaining that there were missing files even though they were attached. So i sent without files. I think i am going to let the accessibility team know about this issue as its really frustrating things going on here

Where is my iTunes store credit now?

Listers, In the latest iTunes, how can I find how much credit I have left? I used to be able to see the amount of credit left on my account just to the left of the html area of the store but now there is no information regarding my credit visible. How can I find out how much credit I have lef

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

I highly doubt the accessibility team will help solve issues with the public beta, hence the inclusion of feedback assistant. Also, you don’t have to send the feedback with those attached files, but they help and are recommended, but seeing as there’s apparently an issue, just send your feedback

Addendum on using the feedback assistant.

Hi Chris and torahs, I just successfully submitted feedback with the feedback assistant, and it worked perfectly. To the person who said they wished they knew were the files to attach manually are located, if you interact with the table of files, and interact with the accessibility settings ite

Re: safari crsor tracking

VO shift plus F3 will toggle cursor tracking on and off. You might want to try that. Sent from my IPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:38 AM, Juan Hernandez wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a question. When I am moving by object in safari, and land at an aria > that I just want to turn off quick mo

one remaining problem with the Macbook

I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab focus was set. Problem nicely solved! The remaining issue is that it is logged into the app store under my account, and it needs to be under the account of the actual owner. It originally was. I do not know how it changed

Re: one remaining problem with the Macbook

Go to store>sign out, and then sign back in. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > > I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab > focus was set. Problem nicely solved! > > The remaining issue is that it is logged into the app store under my acc

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

OK, Ray, that would be great! I'll await seeing your message, if you've not already sent it. I'm still trying to get through my morning batch of mail. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: Mac Visionaries List Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:21 AM Subject

Re: another mail client?

i say wait for il capitan > On 13 Jul 2015, at 7:57 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > > Use ms outlook > > Do not know about thunderbird. > > My experience is the part > >> On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:50 pm, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >> >> MailMate? That came close, last time I looked … >> >> Nah, you’

RE: another mail client?

I am curious as to why others are so dissatisfied with Mac Mail. There are some VoiceOver quirks in the latest official release of the OS X, but I find that there is a lot to like about Mac Mail. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

i don't see any problem with mail here. > On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:08 PM, Shaf wrote: > > Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not tested on > the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system. > > > On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> Not confirmed here. No is

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

i did send a problem report too, it says that i haven't attach aby file but i did. so i click submit without file but when i check my submited report, it was there. i subemited a screen recording. > On 13 Jul 2015, at 6:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > OK, Ray, that would be great!

Re: Is anyone having issues with the Feedback Assistant in El Capitan Public Beta?

Hi, I was able to submit feedback successfully, including with all the attachments. I was able to attach the accessibility settings that they needed by interacting with the table of files, and clicking the help button in the accessibility settings item. They give you instructions on how to atta

Re: another mail client?

Jamie! I am curious as well. The only other mail client I have ever liked better was Pegasus for Windows years ago. This mac mail is a bit quirky sometimes and pegasus had a great filtering rule capability but I think this is realy useable with a couple of exceptions. Jim Sent from my iPhone

Re: another mail client?

Compared to the competition on other platforms, Mac Mail is rather slow and misbehaved, and is increasingly feature-spartan as Apple continually removes them. If I could use Thunderbird, I probably would. On other mailing lists, Mac Mail is a fairly good way to ensure your mail won’t be read a

Re: another mail client?

Wait for El Cap before bashing. :) > On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Compared to the competition on other platforms, Mac Mail is rather slow and > misbehaved, and is increasingly feature-spartan as Apple continually removes > them. If I could use Thunderbird, I pr

Re: one remaining problem with the Macbook

Hang on. Who's Mac is this? Yours or someone else's? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > > I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab > focus was set. Problem nicely solved! > > The remaining issue is that it is logged in

Re: another mail client?

Hi, I wasn’t going to say anything in this thread, but well i do anyway: I don’t know either why everyone is so dissatisfied with the Macmail client. I mean Thunderbird has even less features than Mail or at least just as many and Outlook is excuse me for saying so, downright clumcy in comparison

Re: another mail client?

Hi! Alpine would be a sollution. I don’t know if it would work with voiceover but if you have a braile display you could compile brltty and use terminal and then install alpine. /A > 13 juli 2015 kl. 19:49 skrev Jim Gatteys : > > Jamie! > I am curious as well. The only other mail client I have e

Re: another mail client?

I agree. Wait till El Capitan. Smile. Visit my groups: The Chat Zone the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io The Tech Zone the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io Apple Music apple-music+subscr...@groups.io > On 13 Jul 2015, at 18:52, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Wait for El Cap before bashing. :) >> On

Re: another mail client?

This list is one of the slow ones for me. Nobody trims off the crap at the bottom and so we end up loading bunches of repeat "you have received this message" things like that. I'll admit that it has been quirky in working with gmail at times. I wonder what features thunderbird has that you'd l

Re: another mail client?

OK, for me I use I map for all accounts, I have 2 gmail accounts icloud and I have a blueyonder account, I get a lot of mail on this account, it takes ages to pick the mail up at least half an hour! if I say use window's for a few days then go back to the mac I get loads of mail from

Re: another mail client?

Hi Kevin! I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced. It is: Automatically detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to work much better for me. Not sure if anybody else has done this > On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:13 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries

Re: another mail client?

Hello, I think this may be checked already is this correct? thanks in advance. On 13/07/2015 21:26, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Kevin! I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced. It is: Automatically detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to work mu

Office For Mac Out Of Beta?

Hello Folks, Not sure if this is OT, but here goes. Have been a beta tester for Office 2016 for Mac. Since it has been released for Office 365 that the beta version will not work anymore? I just updated to the most recent upgrade, opened it up and now I feel like I'm back to square one with no

Re: How do you boot a mac into recovery mode?

Hi, CMD+r. HTH. Matthew > On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > > I continually forget this command. Please help! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

Re: another mail client?

Hi, Changing that setting in Mail is especially useful for those people using gmail with the iMap protocol. Make sure that the gMail account is selected from the Accounts table, then do as Jim outlined. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 13, 2015, at 14:26, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Kev

Re: another mail client?

I’ll have to chime in here as well and say that I use apple mail every day and have no problems with it. Having said that, though, you’d think that there’d be other mail clients out there by now that are accessable. I too, loved thunderbird when I was using windows. Not sure why they aren’t m

Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

Hi Mary, No, I don’t know anyone on the Echo team, but my friend tells me it’s not hard to get the message across to the right people. I’ve already told her the “community” is hating on Amazon products for lack of screen reader accessibility. My friend has worked on some motor accessibility st

Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

Hi Kevin, Thank you for your good efforts. Frankly, I wish they would just make the apps for these things really accessible to the screen reader of choice, rather than trying to build some kludgy nonsense into the fire TV etc. I have a Kindle fire HD, and I was so dissatisfied with it that I gav

Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

Look at your keyboard settings for a command associated with the arrow key. Jonathan Cohn > On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m not sure about how to fix your first issue, but as for Night Owl, you > have to add the account manually through preferences>account

Re: another mail client?

Hi, will check to morrow but sure this is already checked. thanks anyway. On 13/07/2015 21:44, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Changing that setting in Mail is especially useful for those people using gmail with the iMap protocol. Make sure that the gMail account is selected from the Accounts table

RE: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

Mary and others: Brent Harbolt from www.harboltcompany.com posted a short podcast on a work around for using the Fire TV in conjuction with the IOS Instant Video app. Basically, you find the movie you want in the Instant Video app then do a voice search for it on the Fire TV. It isn't ideal but

Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

Interesting, Rick. I assume, that since this is specifically related to the instant video app, that there isn't any way to use voice search on other fire TV channels. It's a good start. But clearly, the answer would be to make the app accessible so that we could use all the channels. Sent from

RE: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

Yes, totally agree although I imagine you could apply the same technique using Amazon Music. The voice search seems to be quite good. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten S

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

The El Capitan discussion is totally out in the open at https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/pre-release/os-x-1011-beta. I don’t no why anyone wouldn’t want to discuss it here though. On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:55 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, I too believe that a mailing list for VO beta

Need a good diary app for OSX

Let me be very clear. I need this for the mac, *not!* for I O S. I'm looking for an app that would let me basically keep track of my personal private thoughts in a journal type format. I know Text Edit is a good editer, or Pages, or now a days, even MS Word, but, that's not quite what I mean.

Re: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread

Dumb people will be dumb. Discuss all you want - it's been discussed for over a month by so many other blogs and journalistic sites. On 7/14/2015 1:16 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: The El Capitan discussion is totally out in the open at https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/pre-release/os-x

Re: Need a good diary app for OSX

xJournal is good. Sorry if you’ve tried that already. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Let me be very clear. I need this for the mac, *not!* for I O S. > > I'm looking for an app that would let me basically keep track of my personal > private thoughts in a

Accessibility of Google Hangouts

Hi everyone, I’m thinking of using Google Hangouts. I want to make sure it is accessible though. Are there any issues using it? I want to use the Q&A app to answer questions. Should this be accessible? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: Need a good diary app for OSX

Actually, no. I've not tried it. Will that do all the things I've asked? Is it expensive? Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Need a good diary app for OSX xJournal is good.

Re: Need a good diary app for OSX

I think it will. I do believe its free. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Actually, no. I've not tried it. Will that do all the things I've asked? > > Is it expensive? > > Chris. > >> - Original Message - >> From: Devin Prater

Re: Need a good diary app for OSX

Perfect! from the app store? Or will I need to Google. Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Need a good diary app for OSX I think it will. I do believe its free. On Jul 13,

Re: Accessibility of Google Hangouts

Oh? My? God! Yes yes and again, yes! Unless they have changed things, it is beautiful! Do you need the Safari extention DMG? I can put it in Dropbox for ya, if so. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brandon A. Olivares" To: "“Mac Visionaries“" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:44

issue with the beta

Hello All, I installed the beta, and it corrupted my hard drive, to the point that I had to erase and reinstall Yosemite. Is there any way to try to get the beta back? Thanks, Aleeha -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubsc

Re: issue with the beta

Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the most important things with betas to do. Not purposely meaning to be an ass, just am saying. If not, just make a bootable copy of Yosemite to a USB stick, then go from there. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To:

RE: Need a good diary app for OSX

I do not think there is one that can handle all your b s…LOL From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 17:42 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Need a good diary app for OSX Let

Re: issue with the beta

Hi guys, One point that Aleeha didn't mention, is that when she goes into the app store under purchases, the Beta is there, but there's no way to download it. On Jul 13, 2015, at 20:52, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the most important things wi

Re: Accessibility of Google Hangouts

I don’t know. What is the extension? Can I get it somewhere? > On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Oh? My? God! Yes yes and again, yes! Unless they have changed things, it is > beautiful! > > Do you need the Safari extention DMG? I can put it in Dropbox for ya

Re: issue with the beta

I have 10.10.4 back. I am trying to get the beta back. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the most important things > with betas to do. Not purposely meaning to be an ass, just am saying. > > If not, just make

Re: issue with the beta

Open the app store from the applications folder, and the download button will be there. For some reason, opening it from the apple menu or the dock causes the button to disappear. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > > I have 10.10.4 back. I am trying to get the beta back. >> O

Re: another mail client?

Smiles thanks. I'll wait to see what the new OS does to apple mail and then try out the other suggestions. May and LD Luna Moon! www.canadianlynx.ca > On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > > i say wait for il capitan >> On 13 Jul 2015, at 7:57 AM, Sean Murphy wrot

Re: Accessibility of Google Hangouts

I think you could download it from hangouts.google.com. I was just trying to make your life a little easier, since I already have it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Brandon A. Olivares" To: "“Mac Visionaries“" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:00 PM Subject: Re: Accessibility of Goo

Re: issue with the beta

As strange as that sounds and as skeptical as I was, that worked. Thanks!! > On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Open the app store from the applications folder, and the download button will > be there. For some reason, opening it from the apple menu or the dock causes > the

Re: issue with the beta

You’re welcome. :) > On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote: > > As strange as that sounds and as skeptical as I was, that worked. Thanks!! >> On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Open the app store from the applications folder, and the download button >> will be

Re: issue with the beta

Aa, sorry, I must have misread. I was under the impression that you didn't know how to reinstall Yosemite. My apology. So... if you open up the app store from the Apple menu, then hit command+4 for purchases, do you not see the beta in the table that populates? Chris. - Original Messag

Re: issue with the beta

If that is the case with the download button disappearing, has anyone filed this as a bug? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Aleeha Dudley" To: Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:08 PM Subject: Re: issue with the beta As strange as that sounds and as skeptical as I was, that worked.

RE: issue with the beta

Go to the apple beta web site and re registor your computer and you will get it back -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 18:03 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: issue with the beta

That does not work… it will say that the code is expired. I got it worked out, though. > On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:27 PM, george b wrote: > > Go to the apple beta web site and re registor your computer and you will get > it back > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.c

Re: one remaining problem with the Macbook

I was setting it up for my partner, but I got it all done. Thanks. Kristeen > On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > > Hang on. Who's Mac is this? Yours or someone else's? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >> I found a keyboard

Re: another mail client?

Thunderbird lags behind Firefox for accessibility. They are just getting going on making it accessible so some elements are readable but there are empty tables where the message list and folders should be. I'm hoping they will get that working someday soon. CB On 7/13/15 1:57 AM, Sean Murphy

Re: another mail client?

Hi, Sorry I’m chiming in late! But, I’ve heard good things about an app called Giasmail. There is a write-up about it on apples in their mac app directory. I know its not free but there is a trial. Hope this helps! Jeff > On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > wrote:

Hoot suite

Hi all, Is the social media program HootSuite accessible with voiceover? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e

Re: Hoot suite

As it is web based, I don't see why it wouldn't be. I trialed it under Windows and it seemed to be fine. -Shaf On 7/14/2015 3:43 AM, Laura Bratton wrote: Hi all, Is the social media program HootSuite accessible with voiceover? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Laura -- You received th

Re: parallels 10 accessibility

Hmm, wonder if it doesn't like the odd number of cores. Maybe try dropping it to two. I'm assuming you're running 64-bit Windows since you're trying to allocate 16GB RAM. Are you on the latest updates of vmware? Windows beats on your hard drive but with an SSD, that shouldn't be holding things

Re: another mail client?

Pegasus Mail was awesome, back in the day. It’s still being maintained but I’m not sure I’d want to use it now—or even if I could. MailMate is promising for we power-users, but there are still some accessibility challenges. Thunderbird is off, on OS X. Mozilla don’t seem to have put in the s

Re: another mail client?

Alpine? Ew! You may as well do Mutt! LOL! No, wait, I gotta better one for ya: Let's use Emax with Emaxspeak. There's an ugly one for ya! ROFL! But no, seriously, I know this doesn't exactly? involve Mail? but! maybe you all can at least help me out. Back in Snow Leopard, there was

apple music

I’ve signed up for apple music and i’m still trying to figure out how it all works. if someone has any tips or a demo/podcast with some tips/instructions i’d appreciate it. deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M

Re: apple music

I should note here that i’m using it on a mac with itunes, not ios.:P deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com > On Jul 13, 2015, at 11:07 PM, deedra waters wrote: > > I’ve signed up for apple music and i’m still trying to figure out how it all > works. if someone has any tips or a demo/podcas

apple music question

I dont know when apple music came in or anything like that what i do want to and need to know is how do you add new radio stations. i dont see an option for that or am i missing something? NOTE this is a mac not ios deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com -- You received this message because