Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, so, if this isn't totally bizarre, I don't know what is! My best friend, who like me, is an Avid primary Mac user decided to install Mountain Lion yesterday. So, he went to the app store with my help, and we bought and downloaded ML with his Apple ID. All went perfectly, from what we cou

Re: in Pages

2012-07-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Harry, To edit header and footer areas in Pages, you need to interact with the area then bring the mouse and do a simulated mouse click (VO-Shift-Space bar) to move the focus to that area. We teach all this in our Pages course. Cheers, Anne On 27 Jul 2012, at 03:37, Harry Hogue wrote:

Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Montalvo
I'm sorry to tell you, but this is something that sometimes happens. This happened to me when updating to lion 10.7.3 I think it was. The only thing my Imac did was showing that bitten Apple for ours. Once I got sure that nothing else happened in my Imac screen I was forced to use the Command R at

Re: interesting behavior with Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Greg Aikens
I have also observed this. It will take some getting used to. -Greg On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:50 AM, Shen wrote: > Hi all, > I discovered something new with Mail in Mountain Lion. It's not a big thing, > but worth keeping in mind. > First, my Mail is in classic view. When going through a large amo

Re: voice over voices inside mountain lion:

2012-07-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Ricardo Karen premium and Serena still change pitch randomly. The pronunciation is better though. Cheers Lisette On 27/07/2012, at 6:37 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > There the same voices but, they have been improoved a bit. There is really > no more instance of the premium voices pitch chan

Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Daniel, I'm not at all in the least meaning this to be rude, ok? but, I think you're ever so slightly confused. I'm not trying to get him up on Lion, firstly and foremost. Second of all, I'm perfectly aware of what you said regarding the wi fi thing not working in recovery mode in Lion. Aga

Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

2012-07-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All. I've decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Mountain Lion this weekend and am going to see what happens when I connect my Euro Braille via blue Tooth. If it is broken, I'll let you all know. I wish Mountain Lion was available on a memory stick as I bought Lion on a stick from the A

Re: voice over voices inside mountain lion:

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I haven't noticed pitch changing randomly. At least, not with the American voices. The pitch will change when encountering certain things like, a link in an e-mail for example. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at

Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
Chris, Did your friend by chance have a password login enabled on startup? A few users (including myself) have had ML not speak at startup despite the option being ticked in system preferences. I had to actually hit command + F5 at the login screen to activate it and untick and tick the box a

Re: voice over voices inside mountain lion:

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
I agree, no issues here with the UK voices either. Just works like iOS now where the voice pitch will change on certain elements. On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:41, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't noticed pitch changing randomly. At least, not with the American > voices. The pitch will ch

Re: Weirdest thing I've ever seen! This! is bizarre!

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Absolutely not. He had it set to log him in automatically from the very beginning as far back as when he first bought the thing and had Snow Leopard on it. He's never ever! had a pwd with the log on screen, ever. Good observation, but, no. I mean he can't even hit fn+F1 and F2 to move the sc

ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
Hi all, I have a mailbox folder within my iCloud account called "Stuff" (yeah I know, very imaginative). After installing ML I noticed that my stuff mailbox was no longer visible. I use mail in classic view as I prefer to be able to interact with the message table so I can just see the subjec

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris, I would try expanding the mailboxes as you have been doing. I had trouble finding my folders as well, and this was the only way I could eventually drill down to find them. The good news is once you have your folders visible, they will remain that way. Les On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:35 A

Need Help with Recovering Contents of a Folder

2012-07-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, I had a brain cramp yesterday and caused a problem for myself. I inadvertently deleted the contents of my draft mailbox. Of course, I also deleted it from the trash. Now I realize it's gone on my Mac. However, I do have a MacBook Pro. Is there anyway I can go on to that machine and recover

Can any Macbook User Confirm this?

2012-07-27 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey guys. Can anyone that has a Macbook confirm this? I was using it on battery power and I was doing something and the Macbook shut down due to low battery. The thing that I want confirmation is the fact that I no longer get the "You are now running on reserved battery power" dialog in Mountain

RE: Mountain Lion repeating information in finder

2012-07-27 Thread Missy Hoppe
Thanks! I actually did some playing around and found that last night. I should have written in to say it was fixed. It doesn't seem to have fixed it globally, but now I know how to fix it if I need to. I also unchecked date added, and that made it behave almost exactly the way it used to. -

Re: Can any Macbook User Confirm this?

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What type macbook are you using, a Pro, and standard White macbook, etc. Can you be a bit more specific? Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 5:46 AM Subject: Can any Macbook User Confirm this? H

Re: Bug when expanding mail messages

2012-07-27 Thread Garth Humphreys
This is how I have always expended messages even under Lion. I had no idea what people were talking about when mentioning VO \ to expend. Just use the right and left arrow keys. Actually, what I usually do is to press Control+Tab while on a thread of messages. This will take you to the oldest u

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
Les, I am trying to expand them, but nothing seems to be happening. How are you expanding yours? (no pun intended) Chris On 27 Jul 2012, at 10:40, Les Kriegler wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I would try expanding the mailboxes as you have been doing. I had trouble > finding my folders as well, and

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris, I used VO Backslash on any folder that looked like it could be the one I wished, trial and error. I have a G Mail account, I cannot remember if I had to go under My Mac and then G Mail to do it but I know the right arrow key press didn't expand anything. Les On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:07

Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
You could make it that way with an 8gb USB stick and some time. I'm assuming the process is accessible. On 7/27/12, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi All. > > I've decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Mountain Lion this weekend > and am going to see what happens when I connect my Euro Braille via

More on ML Mail for Chris

2012-07-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Chris, I just looked at my folder structure. The mail boxes I expanded were under the folder called Recovered Messages, g Mail. Under that, there is another entry called g Mail and that was reported now as Expanded and my mailboxes were under that g Mail folder. Les -- You received this mes

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
Hi Les, Thanks, that works. Wouldn't you think VO + right arrow would expand a folder? Not exactly intuitive. Cheers Chris On 27 Jul 2012, at 11:19, Les Kriegler wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I used VO Backslash on any folder that looked like it could be the one I > wished, trial and error. I

Re: interesting behavior with Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
That's awesome! You can now move either direction; if I trash a message but want to keep the one above it in Lion, I had to keep arrowing down to get to the next one, since vo moved up and kept reading the one I wanted to save. Now I can tell vo to just move down instead of up! On 7/27/12, Greg A

Re: in Pages

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
Harry, I don't know how, I just know it can. I haven't tried it yet, only read about it online. On 7/27/12, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Harry, > > To edit header and footer areas in Pages, you need to interact with the area > then bring the mouse and do a simulated mouse click (VO-Shift-Space b

Re: Can any Macbook User Confirm this?

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Nope. I get a warning. When I get this warning, I usually have a minute or 2 to plug it in Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > Hey guys. Can anyone that has a Macbook confirm this? I wa

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, not really. If VO right arrow expanded, how would it then know when you just want to move the VO cursor right? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hi Les, > > Thanks, that works. Wou

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
With quicknav off, does right arrow not expand conversations anymore? I love that command... On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > not really. If VO right arrow expanded, how would it then know when you > just want to move the VO cursor right? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.in

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, yes. It does. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > With quicknav off, does right arrow not expand conversations anymore? > I love that command... > > On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>

Re: Need Help with Recovering Contents of a Folder

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I don't see how you can recover them since you erased them regardless of the type of Mac you own. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:45 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Okay, I had a brain cramp yesterday and caused a p

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
Good, thanks! I'm hoping to have a Mountain Lion in my house less than 12 hours from now... On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > yes. It does. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall wr

keyboard shortcuts

2012-07-27 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi, What is the address for keyboard shortcuts for the mac? (VoiceOver and Otherwise) Stacey and Chesley On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Shen wrote: > How interesting. VO-Backslash is still working for me just fine. Otherwise, I > wouldn't be able to read any of my emails since they are all groupe

Re: Need Help with Recovering Contents of a Folder

2012-07-27 Thread Les Kriegler
The reason I asked is because they were deleted on my iMac, and I have a second system, so I was hoping I could recover the Deleted Folder contents from there. Les On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I don't see how you can recover them since you erased them regardless

favorites bar in Mail?

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, Just a curiosity. I've had my mail in classic view, and may go back to that, but I decided I was curious about playing around with the newer view again. I don't see the favorites bar, though. How does one find it? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Gigi
Hi guys Well, last night I had to call the 877 number to talk to them about this weird problem. It is being referred to the engineering people. Because, the screens of the siding people are just like ours but they can use, of course, there are Mousas to go over the thing to select it. I just got

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Kliphton
The way I have always expanded folders in apple mail on the mack was vo backslash. This expands and cllapses them. HTH K&S Vending (TXT) 218-332-7542 (Fax( 218-451-9881 facebook.com/k.and.s.vending Sent from Minister Miller's iPhone On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys Well, last

Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Christine Grassman
Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it almost always requires a second or t

Re: favorites bar in Mail?

2012-07-27 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi Donna Command Option Shift+H will toggle the favorites bar. When shown, it is the next element past the tool bar. You cna of cours just jump up to your view menu to show/hide the favourites bar as well. Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catche

Re: ML Mail

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Moore
Sorry my brain was not plugged in there, I meant to say by just pressing the arrow right, in the same way I would expand or collapse a conversation or podcast list in iTunes for example. On 27 Jul 2012, at 11:43, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > not really. If VO right arrow expanded, how woul

Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

2012-07-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'm doing a clean install am getting Mountain Lion free of charge. Just can't wait to get home to start the process as I'm sitting here at work how frustrating! On 27 Jul 2012, at 11:25 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > You could make it that way with an 8gb USB stick and some time. I'm > assuming the p

Re: favorites bar in Mail?

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Garth, Thanks, got it. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: > Hi Donna > Command Option Shift+H will toggle the favorites bar. When shown, it is the > next element past the tool bar. You cna of cours just jump up to your view > menu to show/hide the favourites ba

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Eugenia Firth
I am have the same problem with control option space. Here's what I did that helps some, especially when you need to do several of them at once. Lock your vo keys with control option semicolon. You won't want to do this if you have just one you want to do maybe, but it helps. You will need to u

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Greg Aikens
Gigi, I was having this same problem. NO matter how many people suggested that I use VO \, it just wouldn't open for me. But, I did a couple of things and was able to fix my problem. I'm not exactly sure which of these did it, so maybe you can try them all? First, I switched to classic view.

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Eugenia Firth
Thanks Greg. I did, thanks to Les, get the boxes uncollapsed. However, it's not as good and convenient that way it was before, so when I get a chance I will try what you did. I need to remember how to get into classic view. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:57 AM,

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen wrote: > How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not

Re: Numbers

2012-07-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Harry, To edit the contents of a cell, press the space bar. In the case of menus, this will bring up the menu. To rename the table, go to the Sheets table, interact with it and navigate to the one you want to rename. Bring the mouse and double click using the trackpad, then type the new

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin w

Re: Need Help with Recovering Contents of a Folder

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Oh! I guess you could if your using IMAP or exchange. Just disconnect from the internet before launching Mail. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > The reason I asked is because they were

Re: favorites bar in Mail?

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Donna, It might be hidden. Press command option H. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a curiosity. I've had my mail in classic view, and may go back to that, >

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in > Mail, Safari, Fi

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Christine Grassman
I have no idea what this means. :) On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Gra

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Christine, What kind of mac do you have? Also, to repair disc permitions, go to disc utility, select the disc in the table, and VO+right arrow over to repair disc permitions. Make sure you're on the first aid tab first. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:mac

Re: favorites bar in Mail?

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
thanks, Ricardo, it was. Got it now. Take care, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Donna, > > It might be hidden. Press command option H. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 27, 20

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi Donna. > I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I gues

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
Has anyone else noticed this? I went through enough of that constant busy stuff before I got a working monitor. If 10.8 causes those problems, I don't think I'll be upgrading until they're fixed. On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. > > Ri

VM Ware Fusion

2012-07-27 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello everyone. I just downloaded and installed VMWare Fusion 4.1.3 and opened my previously created VM. I got to the Login window and JAWS spoke. However, I don't know how to move focus to the window. Is there a keyboard shortcut to do this or do I need to make a selection from a menu? Since I

Re: Help calling apple please

2012-07-27 Thread chris hallsworth
Try this. 0844 209 0611*. - Original Message - From: "Kirsten Edmondson" To: "Viphone Group" ; Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:17 AM Subject: Help calling apple please Hi all, Is anyone able to tell me how I go about calling Apple? I'm in the UK. I need to report a problem with my f

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, You guys also need to keep in mind that processor-intensive tasks can cause it to say busy as well. Also, having a mechanical hard drive as opposed to an SDD hinders performance too. Not to mention processor speed, ram, etc. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [m

Re: Help calling apple please

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
For one thing, your Apple care may, or might not cover your IPhone, as you have to register both products for APL Care seperetly. Just beware. - One warranty doesn't cover both. Chris. - Original Message - From: "chris hallsworth" To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:28 PM Subject

Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

2012-07-27 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello Rachel. It wasn't that smooth for me because I hadn't updated to VM Fusion 4.1.3 yet. My vision would not run so I downloaded the update and chose the option to update from VM 3. After Fusion installed and brought me to the library window I opened my vm and it came up and JAWS gave me the

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
I know that, but if the machine is the same except the OS, we know where blame falls. With a screen, though, my mini runs quite well. If 10.8 causes that to change, I don't think it would be worth upgrading at this point. On 7/27/12, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > You guys also need to keep in mi

Re: Help calling apple please

2012-07-27 Thread Kirsten Edmondson
Thank you for the phone numbers everybody. I won't use my AppleCare, as I think that is just for my Mac. I will try the UK number and ask if they will help me, they either we'll all won't, it won't hurt to ask. If the worst comes to worst, I will find my local Apple shop and go in there. Sent f

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Do a clean install, then. I've never, ever just installed over a previous OS, for that very reason. I want the best performance possible, and clean installing gives me that. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex

Re: Numbers

2012-07-27 Thread Harry Hogue
Hi Anne, I've been going to the layout area and interacting with it, where I can see the tables I've added there. When that didn't seem to work, however, I went to the item chooser, to the sheets table, interacted, and brought the mouse over so I could move about. That worked. Is there a qui

notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, Is anyone actually able to read notifications in the notification center? So far I have not been able to do that. IF so, how are you doing it? Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send e

RE: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Yes, when you go into notification center, there's a table. Interact with that table, and there are your notifications. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 11:53 AM To:

Re: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm, I tried that. Weird. Thanks, though. :) Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, when you go into notification center, there's a table. Interact with > that table, and there are your notifications. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@go

Re: in Pages

2012-07-27 Thread Harry Hogue
Anne, was it you who offers Pages training via Skype, or was that someone else? I remember this was mentioned, and it would be worth it to me to take advantage of that training. Best, Harry On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Harry, > > To edit header and footer area

Re: in Pages

2012-07-27 Thread Harry Hogue
That's interesting, though, Alex, isn't it? Crazy stuff. Harry On Jul 27, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Harry, I don't know how, I just know it can. I haven't tried it yet, > only read about it online. > > On 7/27/12, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello Harry, >> >> To edit header and fo

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Steve Holmes
One wierd thing I noticed last night with Mail is the mailboxes that VO says are at level zero had to be expanded or collapsed with VO-backslash but the other boxes with higher level numbers could be expanded and collapsed with right and left arrows like I always do. It was just the top level (leve

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Christine Grassman
I've got a thirteen-inch white MacBook purchased in February 2011. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:54 AM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > Christine, > > What kind of mac do you have? > Also, to repair disc permitions, go to disc utility, select the disc in the > table, and VO+right arrow over to repair disc pe

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
How much ram and processor speed? Go to about this mac. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Busy, busy everyw

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Shen
Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Pete Nalda
I hope I'm wrong on this, but I thought the silver MacBooks were the earliest that could run Mountain Lion. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jul

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
One good test of whether or not you're getting volume out your speakers is just to hit F11 or F12 until you hear the click. I love that click. After you hear it, … you know what? I'm going to try a complete restart--off and on again--cause I'm curious now. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, S

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Shen
Hi all, Even though some of you have success using VO-Backslash and others swear by left and right arrow keys, the 2 are very similar but are still different. In the VoiceOver Getting Started guide, VO-Backslash is an official VoiceOver command, but left and right arrow keys are not. The function o

Re: keyboard shortcuts

2012-07-27 Thread Shen
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html Keep in mind the keyboard shortcuts is also available in VoiceOver Help by pressing VO-H. For iOS devices, if you open Safari, the page is in your Bookmarks. On 7/27/12, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi, > What is the address for keyboard s

Re: Weird mail problem with Mountain Kitty

2012-07-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
The other thing that left and right arrows do is, when in a column or directory tree mode in Finder, open or close subfolders. I'm wondering if the difference is that some users are using a grid layout and others a column layout in Finder? I know it shouldn't matter inside Mail, but I don't ca

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
.MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere I hop

Re: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, with me, what happens is that notifications are not given to me unless I start up my Mac. I don't know why this is, but it is. Also, another thing is that all throughout the day when I have my MacBook Pro Walton, notifications are simply not put in the notification Center. Couldn't possibl

RE: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Um.that's kind of the point, your mac needs to be awake. Lol. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Well, with me, wha

Re: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Pete Nalda
I thought this was so, so was posting on account of Christine saying she had a white MacBook. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jul 27, 2012, at

RE: Busy, busy everywhere

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
She does have a white MacBook. However, I had one as well, and encountered tons of busy messages with Lion. I believe those machines only had 2GB of ram stock, so that's what's causing her busy issues. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googleg

Re: Numbers

2012-07-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Harry, Try using VO-cmd-t to go to the Sheets Table. this command takes you between tables within the given document. I also haven't yet been able to have VO read the contents of a cell with a pop-up within. It allows me to select but does not read what has been selected when navigating thro

Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

2012-07-27 Thread Steve Holmes
As a final update, I got the RB 18 to pair this morning. I'm not sure all the cause of problem but I normally have it paired to my iPod and I decided to turn off the iPod completely and was able to pair to the Mac and I wasn't even prompted for a pairing code but it was working fine before I heade

Daniel's Questions about Mountain Lion

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel McGee
Hi all, I have a question or two that I would like to know about early ML users. 1. I have heard that one can now more easly select tex in Safari. What I would like to know is how do you do this and what are the difference between Lion and Mountain Lion. If this is the case then this will be i

RE: Daniel's Questions about Mountain Lion

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Yes, you can select text in safari. You do it the normal way you select text in any other app. Also, yes, that part has been renamed menu extras. It's part of the status menu that was in lion, which is accessed with VO+M twice. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
Did you have it displaying for the iPod every time you tried it with the mac? If so, that was the problem; once iOS or OSX gets a display, that display will not be allowed to work with any other device until the first device "lets go". That's my (limited) experience anyway. On 7/27/12, Steve Holme

Re: first possible bug in ML

2012-07-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says "Dictation IM has no windows". I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like "S

Re: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Ray Foret Jr
But you see, that is it. My back is constantly on, and constantly awake. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:35 PM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > Um…that’s kind of the point, your mac needs to be awake.

f11 and f12 as volume keys on Mac Mini?

2012-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, On macbooks, f11 and f12 control the volume. However, on my mini, I can't get that to happen. I looked in keyboard preferences, but could not find anything about volume to which I could assign those two keys. Is there any way of doing this? I'd also like to get the finer control of

RE: f11 and f12 as volume keys on Mac Mini?

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
Try using FN with those keys. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: f11 and f12 as volume keys on Mac Mini? Hi all, On macbo

RE: notification center

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
You do know that messages, mail, twitter, safari, appstore, and facebook in the fall are the only apps that can give you notifications, right? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:24 PM To: macv

Opening Downloads in Mountain Lion With Safari?

2012-07-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all, In previous versions of OS X, there was a little icon for opening files from the Safari popup. Now I don't see it. I've been opening files from the finder, but is there a more elegant way to do this? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2012-07-27 Thread craig J Dunlop
I am loving the dictation capability! Where do I find the built in Twitter on mountain lion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

RE: Opening Downloads in Mountain Lion With Safari?

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Miller
VO+space on the actual group that you interact with. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Opening Downloads in Mountain

Re: Help calling apple please

2012-07-27 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Could your cell phone carrier help? Though their support is usually fairly limited, I've found most carriers at least know a teeny little bit. Of corse, seeing you were not specific about the Facetime issue you're having more so than to just say, I'm having an issue... it makes it a bit hard f

VoiceOver Reporting One Conversation Items

2012-07-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, There has been so many messages lately that I cannot keep them all strait. Here is a bug I have submitted to Apple. If you have either encountered it or have discovered a workaround, please let us know and report it to Apple, OK? Thank you, Mark VoiceOver Intermittently No

Re: in Pages

2012-07-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Harry, Yes, it's me along with my husband, who offers Pages training via Skype. We do it together since he is fully sighted and can share the student's screen to see that everything is working correctly. Cheers, Anne On 27 Jul 2012, at 19:02, Harry Hogue wrote: > Anne, was it you who

Re: f11 and f12 as volume keys on Mac Mini?

2012-07-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Either that or change your keyboard settings (in system prefs) to use F1, F2, etc. as standard keys, and use FN whatever for the special software functions. This is what I do, although I find that, when the new kitty goes to sleep, the keyboard often changes back to non-standard function use, w

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