Re: need help with software installation

2011-08-23 Thread Simon Cavendish
Hello, I had the same happen - had to ask sighted assistance as you can't get to the controls with VO keys or trackpad. Best wishes Simon On 22 Aug 2011, at 22:37, Bill Holton wrote: > Hi. > Figured I would install Flash as my first application, going to need it > eventually. Got the link to

Re: OpenOffice?

2011-08-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, When i tried Openoffice i found a couple of show stoppers: the paragraphs or even new lines were presented as separate edit boxes making it impossible to read using the "say all" command vo+a. I couldn't select long blocks of text to delete, move or otherwise manipulate, thereby making this

Re: Lion DVD ore USB?

2011-08-23 Thread Hayri Tulumcu
The DVD, which you download from the AppStore, is 3.82GB, it is also by chance, if you have it as a USB key, i meen, do you get the entire OS X drive where you can also say custumise during installation? - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:06

Re: Arrow keys accidentally disabled on friend's macbook pro

2011-08-23 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
I had disabled it before giving back the mac with cmd f5 and did not to my knowledg change startup option. I suppose she has restarted it. Thanks. Ioana (Sent from my phone) Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes. On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:15 PM, james Walton wrote: >

Re: [Bulk] Re: Arrow keys accidentally disabled on friend's macbook pro

2011-08-23 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Would this affect the mac even when vo is off? (Sent from my phone) Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes. On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > I'd guess maybe you turned on quick nav by mistake. Press left and right > arrow at the same time to togg

Recommendations for optical out sound system?

2011-08-23 Thread Bill Holton
Can someone suggest a nice sound system that would take advantage of the mini's optical out connector? BTW: I have been running my new model Mac Mini for several days without a connected monitor and everything works fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: Mac Mail Question

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Linda, If you have 2 mailboxes and you want to easily switch between them, here's how to do it. If you need more help, let me know. First, you will want to have both mailboxes in your favorites bar. You can do this using the new drag and drop procedure in voice over. First, look where the f

Re: time script

2011-08-23 Thread craig J Dunlop
I git that too. and then it only reads the 12 hour time even though my macbook is set for 24 hour. On Aug 22, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Candie Stiles wrote: > Yes I've experienced the very same thing. Some times I need to press the key > combination twice before getting a response. > On Aug 22, 2011, a

Re: turning off trackpad on macbooks

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Falcon, Chad, Christopher and others, The problem is indeed, that I would like to bump the trackpad out of existence. I did find that if you have an external mouse, you can disable the internal trackpad, but that is not what I'm hoping to find. Just like on a windows laptop, I want to turn it

Re: OpenOffice?

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Blouch
Just finished downloading Libre Office and it still has the table problem. I insert a new 2 by 2 table and as I navigate the cells they are all announced as "Edit Text" so there is no way to know which row of column I'm in. Well, there is the trick I posted about a while back of setting a live

Re: Recommendations for optical out sound system?

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Blouch
I have a very old Denon with optical inputs. I plugged the MacMini into the same connector as my DVD player used to be and it just worked. Playing a DVD does the full 5.1 surround sound from the mini's optical audio out. Only hard part was coming up with the little TOSLink to regular square opt

system has new window

2011-08-23 Thread Rhonda Hornbacher
Hi Mac People, I recently heard system has new window. This happened soon after I turned on my MBP. I am now unable to view this window so that I may read what it has to say. Is there a key combination that I can go to that window and read it's contents? Any and all suggestions would be great

Re: iTunes 10.4.1 is out

2011-08-23 Thread matthew Dyer
10.4.1 works fine here with no problems at all. I can now go through the list of music without having to interact first. I am using sl. Matthew On Aug 22, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Have you tried it under SL to see if the problem with locking up has been > fixed fo

[Mac-cessibility News] iTunes 10.4.1 is Released with VoiceOver Fixes

2011-08-23 Thread Maccessibility
iTunes 10.4.1 is Released with VoiceOver Fixes Apple has released an update to iTunes, it's flagship media management and storefront software. The release notes list VoiceOver fixes among the changes in version 10.4.1, which should please users who have struggled with version 10.4 in recent weeks.

e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread Jennifer Perdue
Hi, I am new to this list and new to the mac mini. I recieve my e-mail and it is always from newest to oldest. Could someone tell me how to read it from oldest to newest please. I know it's a stupid and elementary question but I'm a Mac baby. Oh could you tell me if my signature is going thr

Re: commercial ebooks on lion with vo?

2011-08-23 Thread Max
Hi This is discussed in more detail in an earlier thread, but basically it's like this. The Kindle and Kobo Mac apps are not accessible. The only passable way to read e-books is with Adobe Digital Editions. You can buy Adobe incripted ePubs or pdfs from e-book shops like Kobo and then read the

Re: e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Jennifer! To sort your messages! Go to the date column and then press vo+shift+\ this will change it to oldest first! That command will sort other Columbus for other use's like making your music artist list A to Z if they are not sorted that way! And no your signature is not there! Colin PS. t

media player?

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I am wondering what people use for media playback. On Windows, there is a great program called Mapler that can play most any audio file type and provides keyboard shortcuts to control pitch, speed, frequency, and more. What I like is that I can change the key if I need to practice pl

Re: media player?

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Chao
VLC is great. It will do most of what you are looking for, especially play most media files and increase playback speed. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html Kevin On 8/23/11, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I am wondering what people use for media playback. On Windows, > there is a gre

RE: e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread
What about during spell check. How do you add a word to the dictionary, and how do you ignore words? Kliphton SR (twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians -Original Message

Re: system has new window

2011-08-23 Thread Hai Nguyen Ly
Rhonda, Try holding down the VO keys and press F2 twice. This should allow you to arrow through the active windows. Press enter on the one you wish to interact with. On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Rhonda Hornbacher wrote: > Hi Mac People, > > I recently heard system has new window. This happene

Re: e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Kliphton! Well in the spellcheck window after the table of suggestions there is a learn and ignore buttons and a define one as well! hth Colin On 23 Aug 2011, at 18:51, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > What about during spell check. How do you add a word to the dictionary, and > how do you ignore word

Re: system has new window

2011-08-23 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Hai! Sometimes I get a message about something and when I try to go to it, it says that it has no windows and there is no sign of it in the window chooser but the item is still there! Something about system something or other! Any ideas? Colin On 23 Aug 2011, at 18:51, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: >

RE: e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread
Oh, I knew that, thought there was a key combo I could use. Kliphton SR (twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co

24-hour clock time announcements [was Re: clock with hotkey]

2011-08-23 Thread Esther
Hi Craig and Others, The AppleScript for saying time does not pay attention to the "Use a 24-hour clock" check box on the Clock tab of the "Date & Time" menu under System Preferences. That check box only affects the way time is displayed on the status bar menu. Furthermore, the format of the

Keynote image descriptions

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Blouch
I'm getting ready to do a presentation and have put it together in Keynote. Besides text I have some images which I want to add text descriptions for. Anyone know how to do this? When I output the presentation as PDF the images have no text so VO just skips right over them. Other presentation s

Subscribing to MacVisionaries

2011-08-23 Thread David Hole
Hi. I'd just like to ask why (if it's still that way now-a-day) people have to contact a group admin to subscribe to MacVisionaries and the iPhone-list? IMO it would be better if people can subscribe, and admins just accept them. What's your thoughts? Kind regards David -- You received this messa

Re: Subscribing to MacVisionaries

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Hall
I agree 110 percent! I got a Mac Tuesday night and could not ask anything until mid Thursday because of that delay. I am not sure what the reasoning behind the setup is, but it seems like a hinderance and a turn-off for potential users, plus an unnecessary delay for those who need to get help doing

Re: Subscribing to MacVisionaries

2011-08-23 Thread Ishe Chinyoka
Could be just a way to moderate and regulate admissions. Or else to build a profile of users? Someone might have been kicked off for some misdemeanour and this exercise may be a way to flush them out. You don't want troublesome people kicking in and out from time to time.. However, I agree t

Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hello, all. I don't know if I'm misunderstanding, or if I just dreamed this feature existed, but I thought I read somewhere that with lion, one could make an mp3 out of a document. I have a file which I'd love to have Alex read as an mp3, but can't figure out how to do it. I checked the context m

Re: Getting my first mac

2011-08-23 Thread Traci
Oh gall, shipping says the Mac will arrive tomorrow! Any last minute tips for when I open and start it up? If I remember correctly our wireless network is hidden, will this be challenging for the Mac, or should I say for the Mac user? Lol! Also, I have found plenty of podcasts on using VO, b

progress indicators?

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I set vo to play a tone when a progress indicator changes. I thought this would give me rising tones, much like the NVDA screen reader has. Instead, I seem to only get a click every second, and only when the vo cursor is on an indicator. This means I have no way to know how far alon

Re: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Missy! Well I do not know if this will do a whole doc! But vo+shift+Z Will copy last phrase to desktop as audio file! hth Colin On 23 Aug 2011, at 22:51, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hello, all. I don't know if I'm misunderstanding, or if I just dreamed this > feature existed, but I thought I read so

editing commands?

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, Sorry for the flood of emails. When editing, such as in an email or edit field on a webpage, how does one move around? I know that quick nav must be off, that left and right arrows move by character, and that up and down move by line, but that is it. I expected home/end to move to the

RE: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hmm. I'm not sure that will do what I'm wanting either, but at least it's a place to start. I can play around with it and see what happens. Thank you very much for the suggestion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Donwloading a demo of an application

2011-08-23 Thread Israel
Dear Group, After speaking to a couple representatives for a couple applications I'm interested in buying but wanting to make sure they'll be accessible with VO, I decided to download the demo versions of these applications. The first application I tried has now appeared in my downloads. I pr

Re: editing commands?

2011-08-23 Thread erik burggraaf
Move left one character: left arrow, move right one character: right arrow, Move left one word: option left arrow, Move right one word: option right arrow, Move to the beginning of the line: control left arrow, Move to the end of the line: control right arrow, Move to the previous paragraph option

Re: editing commands?

2011-08-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
I know a couple of these commands. You can use command-left and command-right-arrows to go to the start and end of the line; option left- and right-arrows to navigate by word. I am not sure if there's a way to move by paragraph. I would think these commands work best in an editable document with

Listening to CNN with Lion

2011-08-23 Thread Brett C.
On Sno Leopard I listened to CNN's audio stream using Flip for Mac. Now with Lion I can no longer listen. I've checked for updates for Flip for Mac in system prefs, but it says it's up to date. Can anyone help me figure out how to listen to CNN on my Mac? Brett C. -- You received this messag

safari

2011-08-23 Thread craig J Dunlop
with Safari in lion how do I set it so when i lunch it it go toe the home page instead of the last page visited? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubsc

Re: e-mail chronology

2011-08-23 Thread Jennifer Perdue
Thank you very much. Have a great day. Jenny and Brooks my Goofy Guide On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Jennifer! > To sort your messages! > Go to the date column and then press vo+shift+\ this will change it to oldest > first! > That command will sort other Columbus for oth

itunes issue

2011-08-23 Thread Denise Avant
hi all, i notice some improvement with the newest version of itunes. but i still cannot arrow up and down in my songs list, though i am set to list view. i am running snow leopard. i am wondering if others have found this to be the case? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subs

Re: itunes issue

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, This might be a sill question but, do you have quick nav on? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 23, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Denise Avant wrote: > hi all, > i notice some improvement with the newest version of itunes. but i still > cannot a

Re: safari

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, before quitting safari with command Q, press command option W to close all windows. This way, only your designated homepage will open the next time you launch Safari. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 23, 2011, at 6:50 PM, craig J

Re: editing commands?

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I would recommend using command left and right arrow to move to the beginning or end of a line. It works more consistently in my opinion. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 23, 2011, at 6:34 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Move left one

Mike H a question regarding you toob and the mac.

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Huckabay
Hi there dus anny one know of a good utility for the mac to play, manage subscriptions and more that is accessible for the mac? Just wondering what other's are using to watch you toob videos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To

Re: editing commands?

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks everyone. So it is all about the arrow keys, and which modifiers are used. That makes more sense than the window model, actually. Now all I have to do is remember all of those modifiers... On 8/23/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I would recommend using command left and right arrow to m

Re: Lion DVD ore USB?

2011-08-23 Thread Georges Zaynoun
I created that dvd using the installesd.dmg and with all certainty I can confirm it is not the complete os, as I used it on 3 machines, on a macbook early 2009 it wanted to sign into the app store to download components, same dvd on a macmini standard configuration and an imac from last year it

Re: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Here's what you do. BTW, the same option exists in Snow Leopard. Go to system prefs and select keyboard. Now select the keyboard shortcuts tab. In the first table you encounter, choose services. Now in the second table interact, then arrow down to "add to iTunes as a spoken track" Make

Re: progress indicators?

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, no there isn't. but, if you navigate to the progress indicater, pressing VO A will read the progress. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 23, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I set vo to play a tone when a progress

Office VS IWorks

2011-08-23 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi all, as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to provide them with a list of programs that i want to be loaded, i'm wondering what sort of program that is a must for a university student to have? i've req

Re: Office VS IWorks

2011-08-23 Thread Kristyn Leigh
Office for Mac is not accessible with VoiceOver. On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: > Hi all, > > as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my > university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to > provide them with a list of programs that i w

Re: Office VS IWorks

2011-08-23 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Joanne! ms office is not useable on the Mac unless you set up windows as another part of your Mac! Look at posts about bootcamp or fusion! hth Colin On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:47, Joanne Chua wrote: > Hi all, > > as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processor mac book pro from my > university, and i'm

Re: Office VS IWorks

2011-08-23 Thread Joanne Chua
hi all! thanks alot for the news. i appreciate it alot :) after read about the emails here, i just made a quick call to my disability team on campus and just in time for them to change it before they perchase Office for Mac. for sure, i'll have plenty of question and problems ahead of me as i'm m

RE: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Missy Hoppe
Thank you for sending such detailed instructions! If this works in Snow Leopard, I might try it there; I've been playing around in lion for the past hour or so, and haven't been able to get anywhere. I think I was messing up regarding that third column, so I'll have to try to look at that again w

Re: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
No problem, BTW, I should have mentioned this before. When you do the text to audio conversion, it makes an AAC file by default. You can always create an mp3 version afterwards of course. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 23, 201

Re: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread chad baker
hi i'm having trouble making a mp3 i defined a keyboard shortcut its not working i checked the menu bar but no luck i opened a rtf file and selected all the text then looked for the command in the menu bar no luck and tried my shortcut no luck there any suggestions thanks On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:05

RE: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Missy Hoppe
Thanks! That's good to know. Any idea approximately how long the process takes? It's supposedly working on it now, but I'm afraid to touch anything until I know the process is complete. Your instructions worked perfectly under Snow Leopard by the way; maybe I will attempt it with Lion again some

add to iTunes as a spoken track

2011-08-23 Thread chad baker
hi i can't add anything as a spoken track in iTunes i followed ricardo's instructions add to iTunes as a spoken track isn't showing up in the menu bar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvis

RE: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hello again. Sorry to bother you, but how do I convert the file that imports into Itunes into an mp3, or even an .ogg. I copied the file, which was insanely huge by the way, onto a flash drive so that I could convert it in gold wave, but it's an m4A or something like that, and goldwave can't open

Re: Office VS IWorks

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
Go with iwork, microsoft office on the mac is not accessible, you could also try open office, which is free. Iwork is able to open and save Microsoft Office files, but if you need to use office natively, consider installing windows on your mac. On Aug 23, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >

Re: safari

2011-08-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, 1. In Safari Prefs in the General pane, set New Windows to open with Homepage. 2. In System prefs in the General pane, uncheck the checkbox related to "Restore Windows when Quitting and Reopening Apps". In most cases that will do it. Some people have had to also set the Remember Recent A

Re: itunes issue

2011-08-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Denise, Arrow navigation does now work properly in Lion and the navigation through the Music Library has also reverted to regular "no hesitation" as in previous versions of iTunes.. In the Software Update notes pertaining to iTunes, it mentions that it is now fully compatible to Lion which

growl mail me notification

2011-08-23 Thread james Walton
hi everyone, has anyone ever figured how to configure out how to set up the mail me notification for growl thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubsc

Re: Making an mp3 with lion?

2011-08-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, There's a couple ways you can do it. You can convert with iTunes. Open up iTunes and then open up iTunes prefs with command comma. Then find the import settings button (which is found under the general tab) and select the file type you want iTunes to use for conversion. Once you've sele

Re: OpenOffice?

2011-08-23 Thread Adie
Hello I tried OO a couple of years back when I was having trouble working on a common document with a sighted friend who was using Word on a fairly old Windows OS and wasn't all that tech minded. It worked well for that purpose, although I preferred Text Edit as a much simpler way of going about

Re: time script

2011-08-23 Thread Shen
I have also noticed a lag in Lion as well. When I was using Snow Leopard, VoiceOver responds instantly when I press the keyboard commander for the time script. Now in Lion, I've experienced at least a 1.5 second lag. And yes, I have checked allow VoiceOver to be controlled by Apple Script. On A