Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Marie Howarth
apple script editor has been moved to utilities. the folder on my snow leopard is now empty and so I'm guessing it is no longer useful. the apple script editor is in utilities under apps folder though. hth On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Hi Esther, oddly I dont' seem to h

Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Esther
Thanks, Dan. I'll probably upgrade to Snow Leopard shortly and will keep this information in mind. Cheers, Esther On Sep 1, 2009, Dan wrote: > > Hello Scott and Esther, You will find a script runner and the script > utility from the root folder of the hard drive, goto system, then > Library

Re: VPN client.

2009-09-01 Thread Esther
Hi Dónal, Very interesting, since I hadn't heard about Tunnelblick before. Your email did get through. We've seen this issue of the status menu not being accessible before. It ran all the way from the case for DropBox, where using the window chooser menu (VO-F2 twice) brought up an opti

Re: annoying issue in Amadeus Pro

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
What particularly appeals to me about Amadeus Pro is that I'm always discovering something new, something different and I've been using the software for over 2 years now. On 02/09/2009, at 12:16 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > Hi all. > > Thanks for your help. The "join files" did the trick. I

turning pages in PDF

2009-09-01 Thread Justin Harford
Hi all I was looking at a PDF print preview in the preview program when I found that the commands to go forward and back through pages seem to have disappeared. When I looked in the "go" menu, I saw the options to go to previus and next page, but it didn't have any commands. I was curio

Re: confused about braille and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anouk, On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:36 PM, anouk radix wrote: > i wanted to explore a webpage with just braille but after i had > done my right thumb key it stopped reading after a bit and went back > to the beginning. So i looked into the voicover braille tab and it > says that pan left and pan ri

getting old addressbook contacts back?

2009-09-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey guys I know I asked this last night with my gmail message, but I'm not sure if that message went through and now my gmail issues seem to be fixed knock on wood!! so my next issue, I'm trying to get all my addressbook contacts back. before I installed SL I copied my old leopard user fol

retaining settings

2009-09-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, I thought voicover did not retain settings but after a restart it does seem to work. I do have to manually re-search for my bluetooth braille display though in the status bluetooth menu. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message b

timezone

2009-09-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, my timezone seems to be wrong, although i did set it to amsterdam when i first setup my mac. Where can I change it? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. T

Re: turning pages in PDF

2009-09-01 Thread Barry Hadder
You use page- up or page down. If you are using a Macbook, those keys will be fn-up or fn-down. On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Hi all > > I was looking at a PDF print preview in the preview program when I > found that the commands to go forward and back through pages s

Re: brailledispaly does not display all text

2009-09-01 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hmmm, I don't know why this would be, but maybe try interacting with the table and then seeing if it shows up on your display? On 2009-09-01, at 2:03 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello all, i just wanted to check my sent items but if i hit tab from > the main list of folders to go to the list of

how to select a link in group mode?

2009-09-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, I am now navigating a page in group mode, there is a table that i interact with and in the table is a certain link i want to click, so i stand upon it and then stop interacting but this does not activate the link, how can i activate it? Group mode DOES seem to be qui ker then dom m

Fwd: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Howell
FOlks, Alex asked I share this and so I shall. Begin forwarded message: > Subject: Re: apple script and vo > > Hi, > Scott: > > Please post this to the Mac Visionaries list on my behalf if you can. > > The AppleScripts folder now resides at: /Library/Scripts/ , with the > Script Editor, now re

Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Howell
Thanks Dan, I haven't had the chance to go poking around as much as I'd like and gee I wondered what some of that stuff was. I keep saying I need an extra box or maybe a couple of external drives so I can just poke and hack away to see what chaos I can rain upon the system. :) On Sep 1, 2

Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Howell
Thanks Esther and what are you waiting for? What am I going to do without your amazing knowledge, so get crackin' and upgrade. :) On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > You wrote: > >> >> Hi Esther, oddly I dont' seem to have the Apple Script folder in >> Applications any

Re: how to select a link in group mode?

2009-09-01 Thread william lomas
hmmm did you try pressing v.o. space on it as in dom mode? I have never ever used group mode even in Leopard. On 1 Sep 2009, at 22:14, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I am now navigating a page in group mode, there is a table that > i interact with and in the table is a certain link i want to c

Re: hotspots in vo

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Blouch
Yup. Just need to remember to set it before you switch away. CB a radix wrote: > Hello everyone, i have been working with the mac os x this evening, > what disconcerted me, however is that if i go to another page or just > another window with cmd-tab, then my focus will be lost in the webpage

Re: dummies guide

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Blouch
I didn't see an answer to your first question. Yes you can just hold the C key to boot up of the CD/DVD drive. Once the machine is booted you can do Apple-F5 to start up voiceover and complete the installation. On laptops the F5 doubles as the volume up key so you might have to do Function-Appl

brailledispaly does not display all text

2009-09-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello all, i just wanted to check my sent items but if i hit tab from the main list of folders to go to the list of messages and then either arrow up/down or vo up/down there is nothing displayed on my braille display, if i use speech it reads normally. This does not happen in the inbox so

Re: how to select a link in group mode?

2009-09-01 Thread Simon Cavendish
Dear Anouk, When you navigate a webpage using group mode, and when you interact with a particular group and encounter a link within that group, do not stop interacting with the group. As soon as you hear "link", press vo +spacebar and you should be able to activate that link. Just to try an

RE: hotmail account

2009-09-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello, The following settings will work for POP3 Hotmail, Live, and MSN Mail: Assuming you can use a POP3 without HotMailLive Connector the following server settings apply: Username = entire email address. Do not use authentication in the password setting. Incoming Server: pop3.live.com Out

eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Blouch
Wonder if this is the beginning or the end of something? I know there are a lot of Skype users on this list. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137339/Report_eBay_to_sell_Skype_to_group_of_private_investors CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Voice Over reading colored text and a Skim Reading Feature

2009-09-01 Thread James & Nash
Thank you for this Esther. Your posts are always so infomative thank you. - Original Message - From: "Esther" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over reading colored text and a Skim Reading Feature > > Hi James, > > VoiceOver lets you check color with the

Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
XCode is an Integrated Development Environment for writing Mac OS X and iPhone applications. It has nothing whatsoever to do with X11, and is indeed quite accessible with VoiceOver. On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:34 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Xcode is for the X11 windowing manager and tools which a

Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-01 Thread James & Nash
Ah sorry thank you for giving me new info. Take care james - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: apple script and vo > > XCode is a graphical integrated development environment for developing > native Mac OS10 Cocoa appl

Re: VPN client.

2009-09-01 Thread Donal Fitzpatrick
Hi Esther, The good news about this app is that it is open source, and is available under GPL. I've downloaded the source and will take a look at some stage over the next couple of weeks. Cheers Donal On 1 Sep 2009, at 21:24, Esther wrote: > > Hi Dónal, > > Very interesting, since I had

problems openoffice, again

2009-09-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, i have openoffice installed in but sl but i still have problems. I converted the sl vo user guide to doc format in text edit but when i open it in openoffice it does not seem to read it right, i get a lot of insertion at beginning of text and cant seem to go through the text with up

adding a single song from a CD into iTunes

2009-09-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, Is this possible? If I put a CD in, and tell itunes not to import it, because I only want to import one track, when I press Command-O on that track, it looks like itunes wants to put it in Contacts. Thanks in advance for any help with this. Best, Donna --~--~-~--~

[Mac-cessibility News] FaceBook Developer Says iPhone Accessibility Is Coming

2009-09-01 Thread Maccessibility
FaceBook Developer Says iPhone Accessibility Is Coming Joe Hewitt, (@JoeHewitt on Twitter), is a developer working on the FaceBook.com iPhone application. Recently, he has tweeted about accessibility of the application, which we previously reported had been made entirely inaccessible in its relea

Re: Voice Over reading colored text and a Skim Reading Feature

2009-09-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi Esther, Unfortunately, the post you pointed to no longer seems to exist. But, it's good to know that it can be done. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Esther" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over reading colored text and a Skim Reading F

Re: RSS Section of mail

2009-09-01 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi, You can set up a message roole to do this. If you know how to creat message roles then you can just tell it to send messages from the list to the rss mail box. Matthew On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Mike wrote: > > Hi all: > > I want all the msgs that I receive from this list to go to

Re: Rodent Inquiry

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi. I have a mac mini, so I will set the record straight. Not having a mouse does not cause problems, although the mac will not allow you to turn off blue tooth. If you need to use a mouse for something, any usb mouse will work fine. What can make a difference is whether a monitor is conne

possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi everyone. Wondering if anyone can reproduce this or if it's just me. I have my macintosh HD showing on my desktop, I'm not sure if it's related to that, or if having more than one volume showing on your desktop produces the same results. Anyway, when I connect my external hard drive or

opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, My understanding was that in SL you did this with Vo-Space? I've tried that, Enter, and Command-O, all to no avail. What's the deal? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm still waiting for my copy of the quick-start guide. Best, Donna --~--~-~--~~~--

Re: possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Try giving that external hard drive a name, such as, Oh I don't' know, ... external hard drive! :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: insertion point solution for windows users

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
I plan on mentioning the cursor feature in my pod cast, though my advice is to keep it set to speak what the cursor moves over, this really is more how the mac does things, and it's better to learn and adjust to that from the start. On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Hi

Re: possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread Marie Howarth
I've found tabbing seems to work better for some odd reason. On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Hi everyone. Wondering if anyone can reproduce this or if it's just > me. I have my macintosh HD showing on my desktop, I'm not sure if it's > related to that, or if having more than

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Marie Howarth
hitting enter works absolutely fine for me. just to open the item in the doc? otherwise, vo--shift--m will pull up the menu. On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > My understanding was that in SL you did this with Vo-Space? I’ve > tried that, Enter, and Command-O, all

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Donna Goodin
It works fine for apps, but not for opening Documents. Donna On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > hitting enter works absolutely fine for me. just to open the item in > the doc? otherwise, vo--shift--m will pull up the menu. > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >>

Setting up a pop account on gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Mac Cougar
Hello, I just installed Snow Leopard and when I try to setup a pop account in gmail it keeps making it an imap account. Any ideas how I can create a pop account? Thanks Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Brandon Misch
the quick start guide is built in by hitting control option h for help and then going down to getting started guide. On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > My understanding was that in SL you did this with Vo-Space? I’ve > tried that, Enter, and Command-O, all to no ava

Re: Setting up a pop account on gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Slau
The IMAP server will work for POP accounts as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fro

Re: possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread James Dietz
Mark, what he tells us implies that his hard drive and flash disk already have names: "If I use the down arrow key voice over says the name of my external volume as it should." ~ Mike On 9/1/09, Marie Howarth wrote: > > I've found tabbing seems to work better for some odd reason. > > On Sep 1,

Re: possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread Dan
Hello, Might want to play with the 3 mouse cursor options, Follow VO, Move VO or Ignore. Then see how the info is displayed after each change. HDH. Dan On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:37 PM, James Dietz wrote: > > Mark, what he tells us implies that his hard drive and flash disk > already have names: > "I

Viscosity app for Open VPN [was Re: VPN client.]

2009-09-01 Thread Esther
Hello Dónal, A bit of searching brought up another app that works with OpenVPN called Viscosity. It seems to have very good reviews at macupdate: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27875 There's a 30-day free trial, information about how to automatically import Tunnelblick settings (automa

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes, I had heard that Skype - as we know it - was going to end at the end of this year and I was going to ask if the Googletalk Client was accessible with Voiceover, has anyone tried it? On 02/09/2009, at 7:57 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > Wonder if this is the beginning or the end of somethi

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks. Donna On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > the quick start guide is built in by hitting control option h for > help and then going down to getting started guide. > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> My understanding was that in SL you did t

pod cast 10 on installing snow leopard

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi all, ok my pod cast number 10 on installing snow leopard is now on blind cool tech. I also look at the new voice over tutorial. Hereis the link. http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1380InstallSnowLeopard.mp3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message b

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Actually, to open something on the dock, pressing enter usually does the trick. On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > My understanding was that in SL you did this with Vo-Space? I’ve > tried that, Enter, and Command-O, all to no avail. What’s the deal? > > Sorry if th

Re: iTunes playlist browser and keyboard shortcuts

2009-09-01 Thread Justin Kauflin
Scott, I am also talking about the browser list. The sources list works fine. I have found that I have to use VO commands to get anything to be read aloud. The interesting thing is that when I stop interacting with the browser list and type the letter of the desired artist or album, it will go

Re: timezone

2009-09-01 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Anouk, You asked: my timezone seems to be wrong, although i did set it to > amsterdam when i first setup my mac. Where can I change it? TK: Go under System Preferences and choose Date and Time. Click on the Time Zone tab then navigate to the field where it mentions the closest city. S

Looking for Garage Band users

2009-09-01 Thread Justin Kauflin
Hello, I'm wondering if there are any folks on the list that are familiar with using Garage Band. I've just started using it and have a few questions. I am wondering if it is possible to save a project as a MIDI file? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Justin --~--~-~--~--

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread hank smith
so skype will be no more at the end of the year? - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors > > Yes, I had heard that Skype - as we know it - was going to end at the > end of this year

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi, My impression from the article and from the Skype blog is that Skype is alive and well. It's going to be a more independent company than in the past couple of years, as eBay will only own 35% of it. It was sold at more than anyone expected, so that's a good sign. Best, Anna --~--~---

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
In the form that we know it no, that's what I heard anyway. On 02/09/2009, at 12:01 PM, hank smith wrote: > > so skype will be no more at the end of the year? > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: eBay to sell

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
If that's correct then that will be nice, the big problem with skype at the moment is that you can only use a Skype client to communicate with a Skype client or a Skype client to communicate with others via the PSTN, mobile networks and so for whereas you can get any one of a million VOIP

Re: adding a single song from a CD into iTunes

2009-09-01 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Donna, Do the following to add a single song: 1. Focus on the song you want to add. 2. Go to the menu bar and choose Advanced. 3. Choose Create AAC version (the format will be different if you changed the format in IMport Settings) and press Enter. The song is imported. HTH, Anna --~--

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Donna Goodin
That's whay I'm asking. For me, since it stalling SL, it won't open Documents. On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Actually, to open something on the dock, pressing enter usually does > the trick. > On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> My understan

another handy keyboard shortcut in Amadeus Pro

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi! I don't think this Keyboard shortcut has made the official Amadeus Pro documentation or manual yet. Option-Home and end move the insertion point to the beginning or end of a sound file respectively, nice! ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia ma

RE: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Blake Sinnett
Going SIP would be great for them. > From: grtd...@internode.on.net > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:52:51 +1000 > > > If that's correct then that will be nice, the big problem with skype > at the moment is

Re: another handy keyboard shortcut in Amadeus Pro

2009-09-01 Thread Dan
Hello, Hey, thanks for that one. Now I can make use of it right away. I was thinking about something like that a few days ago. Dan Dan key...@comcast.net On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > I don't think this Keyboard shortcut has made the official Amadeus > Pro docu

RE: possible voice over issue

2009-09-01 Thread Blake Sinnett
I have this problem as well. Usually, VO-down arrowing away and back to the item fixes that. Still, that shouldn't happen. > Subject: possible voice over issue > From: n0...@charter.net > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:50:57 -0500 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > Hi everyone. Wondering i

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Skype has engrossed over 500 million this year as compared to the 7 million 3 years ago. That's a huge indicator of the company's health and there is no reason it would shut down. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are sub

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Peggy Fleischer
I am having the same problem. I can press enter on downloads and it works but not on documents. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Psalm 90 12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > That's w

RE: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Blake Sinnett
Try selecting documents in the dock, VO-shift m and up arrow and select list. That worked for me. From: peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: opening items in the dock Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:34:31 -0400 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com I am having the same problem. I can press enter

Extra Verbage in Mail

2009-09-01 Thread Dan Roy
Hello Everyone: This is my first time posting on this list. So far, however, I have gotten a lot of help just by reading, grins! I did the install of OS 10.6 and it went off without any problems. Boy, some nice new functionality, almost everything i wanted. However, now that reading has b

podcast now up

2009-09-01 Thread Brandon Misch
Hey all. Mike's podcast on installing sl is now on blind cool tech. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To uns

Re: opening items in the dock

2009-09-01 Thread Peggy Fleischer
That did it! thanks so much. Should have known that. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Psalm 90 12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > Try selecting documents in the dock, VO-shift m and up a

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Blouch
I do Javascript development and so I ran SunSpider tests before and after upgrading and the results were about 25% faster. This means those fancy web apps should be snappier on Safari under Snow Leopard, all other things being equal. SunSpider test site: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
This is yet another example of email being taken out of context , I didn't say that Skype was going to close rather thant it was going to change as we knew it. Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Skype has engrossed over 500 million this year as compared to the 7 > million 3 years

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Blouch
Right, but there was the recent spat with the original owners over patents on some of the underlying technologies. Apparenly eBay didn't actually purchase those and without them Skype was going to have issues. So I'm not sure what the new owners will bring to the table. If I just want to do pe

Purchasing Express Talk

2009-09-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi everyone! A couple of weeks ago we discussed software which could turn your computer into a fully functional VOIP system, a friend of mine recommended Express Talk, its very accessible with the Mac, I liked the very limited free trial and now I've decided to purchase the software. I'm

Re: turning pages in PDF

2009-09-01 Thread Justin Harford
Awesome thanks. El Sep 1, 2009, a las 2:05 PM, Barry Hadder escribió: > > You use page- up or page down. If you are using a Macbook, those keys > will be fn-up or fn-down. > > > On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> Hi all >> >> I was looking at a PDF print preview in the pre

Bluetooth headset and Mac

2009-09-01 Thread Brett Campbell
Hello, I'm attempting to use a bluetooth headset on my mini. I'm trying a headset called Rocket Fish MAB 2. The headset works fine with my iPhone. I was able to pare the headset and mini with no problem. When I go to sound in the prefs, and select the headset, VoiceOver comes through

Re: Extra Verbage in Mail

2009-09-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Dan, On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:53 AM, Dan Roy wrote: > now that reading has become easier in mail, there is also now > a lot of unneeded verbosity like, "new line," and, extra images being > read aloud etc. > > I do have VO set to medium verbosity, however, I don't think that > setting is relate

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