Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
think I did say I was glad of the choice, just sad apple had to accomodate those who find it impossible to edit text in the way it is meant to be edited. they are features that yes, fine they are here now, just weren't really missing in my opinion. If others need their screen reader to hol

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Dan Eickmeier
And speaking of oyur install Mike, looking forward to hearing that podcast of it. On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > And to you Mike, your podcasts have helped me make this decision. > My new > Mac Mini is waiting for me to fire it up. Hope I don't screw > something up! > (

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
With all respect, I am sure there was a time when you were a beginner. I am an extremely competent Windows user. This doesn't in and of itself make me the spawn of Satan, it is simply a statement concerning my current technological status. One of the things that has kept me from purchasing a

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Personally, I find the Mac way of editing more intutitive, but that's just me. Also one of my friends told me that the Mac edits the way sighted folks would - i don't know if this is the case in Windows. - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:39

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Absolutely - all opinions are welcome smile - Original Message - From: "Marie Howarth" To: Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:45 AM Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm? > > think I did say I was glad of the choice, just sad apple had to > accomodate those who find it impossible to edit text

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Fonzie
Thsi is strange to me. I am not have any issues with drop boxes in any application or preference paine, or even in Safari. What I am having an issue with is... VoiceOver + F1 and VoiceOver + F2 no longer works for me. Using oiceOver + F1 X2 and VoiceOver + F2 x2 no longer works either. So,

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Fonzie
I second the no issue with choppy reading area. The sub menu thing? I have seen that happen once or twice. I mainly see it when I pull up the main menu bar though, where apple and program related menus are located. What seems to happen is, VoiceOver will stop speaking here and there, and o

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello; Just speaking for myself the hardest adjustment i had to make when moving to a mac was getting used to the way you have to edit text. Now, that I understand it, it is second nature; but it was a real headache in the beginning. Another one that was a tough one to get my mind aroun

Re: Open Office, inserting Current Date into a document

2009-08-29 Thread JC Helary
Le 30 août 2009 à 09:31, Dane Trethowan a écrit : > Hi! > > To be honest I'm not expecting a quick answer to this question from > the list as I'm probably the only one using Open Office with a Mac but > I thought I'd give it a go anyway . Does anyone know how you > go about inserting the curren

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Rutkowski
Hi there. I am having the same issue with the window chooser. How are you getting around the dropbox issue finding the dropbox preferences etc? On 30/08/2009, at 11:23 AM, Fonzie wrote: > > Thsi is strange to me. > > I am not have any issues with drop boxes in any application or > preference

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
you are correct, the way vo default to edit is exactly how sighted folks edit text. On Aug 30, 2009, at 2:17 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Personally, I find the Mac way of editing more intutitive, but > that's just > me. Also one of my friends told me that the Mac edits the way > sighted fo

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Chesworth
Marie: someone's screen reader holding their hand is precisely the reason that VO hints are cool as an option. Whoever needs it can have it, whoever doesn't switches it off. It does no harm because the hints themselves are teaching whoever hears them to use VO to interact with Mac OS as closely

Re: Open Office, inserting Current Date into a document

2009-08-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah should have known, thanks! On 30/08/2009, at 11:32 AM, JC Helary wrote: > > > Le 30 août 2009 à 09:31, Dane Trethowan a écrit : > >> Hi! >> >> To be honest I'm not expecting a quick answer to this question from >> the list as I'm probably the only one using Open Office with a Mac >> but >>

the doc, interesting change in sl

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
in the doc, instead of just being able to arrow down to see applications options, such as keep in doc, open at log in, you are no longer able to arrow. now use the contextual menu, vo--shift--m to get to these mini doc menus. hth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You re

As unreliable as Windows

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac Mini. About twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told that the install

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi, I'm pretty much used to editing on a Mac now, but I'll have to say I'm glad there's the option to edit the way you do in Windows. I write books that have to be structured with headings and lists and such so they can be converted to DAISY. This means I have to write them in Word. This

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Chesworth
Anna, that's a great example of why the feature isn't all bad that I hadn't considered. Consistancy can be key sometimes. Not even I can be grouchy about that lol. On 8/30/09, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm pretty much used to editing on a Mac now, but I'll have to say I'm > glad th

RE: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hello all, I have to support Rich here. The attitude displayed by many Mac users toward Windows, and toward Windows users who are doing their best to learn the Mac OS is frankly despicable. Many mac users--definitely not all--are nothing more than a bunch of narrow-minded snobs. Windows is not

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Barry Hadder
If you are using a Macbook, try pressing the fn key. That's what I'm doing and it is working. On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi there. > > I am having the same issue with the window chooser. > How are you getting around the dropbox issue finding the dropbox > preferen

RE: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Nice post, Max. Donna > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr. > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:29 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: 3 features that hmm? > > > Hello; J

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Thanks donna; only wish my transition from doss to windows had been as easy. That was a real mind cramp sort of thing. Take care, Max On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Nice post, Max. > Donna > >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mai

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Rutkowski
Hi again. pressing the fn key and doing what exactly? Could you provide instructions on how your accessing the dropbox menu with the preferences in it please? Thanks. On 30/08/2009, at 1:06 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > > If you are using a Macbook, try pressing the fn key. That's what I'm > d

RE: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, I guess we all have our things. Ironically, the adjustment to editing text has been one of the easier parts of my adjustment to the Mac. *smile* Take care, Donna > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxw

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Barry Hadder
Hold down the fn while you press vo-f2 twice. You can change this behavior in system preferences/keyboard. Hope that helps. On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi again. > > pressing the fn key and doing what exactly? > Could you provide instructions on how your accessing

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hi Donna; It could have just been me, but that is the point. there are people out there who have been doing it one way for so long that any change can be frustrating. I remember how many times i deleted the wrong character or inserted a character in the wrong spot and had to do it over.

Re: Does anyone know how to install RAM on the White MacBooks?

2009-08-29 Thread Buddy Brannan
Hi, It's dead easy. I found it on Google (google knows everything, including how to install RAM on a white Macbook). 1) Remove the battery. Take a quarter and turn the thingy that has a slot that's just right for putting a quarter in on the bottom of your Macbook, next to (oddly enough) th

Re: Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Barry Hadder
I've just noticed that the dropbox isn't showing up in the list. I understood you to say that you were unable to bring up the window list. I was having the same problem until I tried the fn key. Sorry if I misunderstood. On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi again.

ejecting a cd

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
How do you eject a cd? In my finder window, the only volume I see is my Leopard install cd. I have Voiceover, but I cannot see my hard drive. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" gro

Re: Does anyone know how to install RAM on the White MacBooks?

2009-08-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
> Hi James, You asked: Does anyone know how to install RAM on the White MacBooks? can anyone give > > step by step instructions please? TK: The installation of RAM is fairly straight forward on those machines. You'll need a set of precision screwdrivers in order to do this and make sure

Re: Just got a Mac Mini

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey Rich, that's awesome that you got a mac, you're going to love it. Insert the DVD, then hold the c key to boot it up. Hold the command key and press F5 to start voice over, and the first thing you will need to do is choose the language for the install. Select continue, you can then go t

Re: way files are sorted on os x

2009-08-29 Thread Tim Kilburn
> Hi, You asked: I am now copying over some files from my windows machine to the mac (no better way to learn the system then just using it) i am noticing though that it seems as if folders are not sorted first (in windows i first got a list of all the folders and then the files) this seem

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
That's great, I've just recorded pod cast number 10 on installing show leopard, it's not on blind cool tech yet, but if we can find a way to transfer it, I can send it to you, it covers a clean install of snow leopard, as well as the new voice over tutorial, which I think is very good. On

Re: As unreliable as Windows

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then it does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible than any windows install has ever been. On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > >

Re: ejecting a cd

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Ok, I had the same thing, press command comma to open the finder preferences. Now navigate to the right and you will see some check boxes for what to show on the desktop, check the option for hard disks. On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > > > How do you eject a cd? > In my fin

Re: What is a data detector, and how is it used?

2009-08-29 Thread VaShaun Jones
Or one of the biggest things with a data detector is that if it has a date you can add it to your I Cal calendar. For example I would like to meet with you on next Tuesday. You can right click and add this to your calendar and it would decipher the date for you. On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, D

RE: ejecting a cd

2009-08-29 Thread Les Kriegler
my finder window, the only volume I see is my Leopard install cd. > I have Voiceover, but I cannot see my hard drive. > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4380 (20090829) __ The message was che

Re: As unreliable as Windows

2009-08-29 Thread Justin Harford
I found it went faster, about 30 mins, when I did a clean install. It's sort of more accessible. I mean they improved the internet quite a lot. But I would argue that finder and iTunes were more better integrated with voiceover under leopard. They really let cursor tracking get all mucke

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread peter Apgar
Well said Donna!!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:06 PM, "Donna Goodin" wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have to support Rich here. The attitude displayed by many Mac users > toward Windows, and toward Windows users who are doing their best to > learn > the Mac OS is frankly despicab

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