RE: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
ionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2016 5:40 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo Heck, no offence was meant, however I still think Apple

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Heck, no offence was meant, however I still think Apple are the biggest and best example of integrated accessibility actually working, which is why one of the biggest reasons Mac users give for being on Mac is not having to depend on an external AT. That doesn’t factor in to the discussion by i

RE: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
isionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2016 10:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo Kevin, can you explain what you mean about the email delivery? Are you saying that you get repl

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread erik burggraaf
It's not only the "Churche of apple". I'm not really sure I fit the furver. I do regularly use mac and ios, but also android and windows via NVDA. I'm co-owner of a site for android users with disabilities. Window-eyes wasn't my first screen reader but it was my best loved after window-bridg

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yeah, I get that as members of the church of Apple there is a certain jubilation at the idea of the death of commercial AT. What I was saying was that, actually, I think this will hurt, while we have competition in the marketplace. I was quite the GW fan, you know (my first screen reader) and

Moderator Note -was- Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey Kevin, First off, instead of effectively asking someone else to take responsibility for the messages you are responding to by asking the mods to somehow rearrange the order of list messages to suit you, why don’t you take responsibility yourself and take that extra second to actually verify

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread erik burggraaf
ups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu > Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2016 8:22 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo > > Am I really the only one not dancing with joy here? GW do great work; FS I > am, ahem, r

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ot; To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:42 AM Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo Kevin, can you explain what you mean about the email delivery? Are you saying that you get replies before the messages to which the replies apply? Simon, yep GW are a bit hard to tou

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
People need to actually read the messages they are responding to, instead of flying off the cuff all the time. anyway, back to regular list type stuff.. Cait > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > Or, if my message was uncalled for, likewise, was the message I responded > to. I

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Who ever said I’ve left the windows world?? I was just explaining to Cheree about this AI Squared thing. I don’t care what OS people use. Chill out! Cait > On Jun 14, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: > > if you have indeed left the windows world, do the rest of us a favor, and > leave t

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread E.T.
There are kids, and there are kids. Some kids have it right. Those I do not want near my Mac for fear of being shown how to use it. (smiles) As to toys, I have a new one, you know about that. I will put it online today. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe t

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Scott Granados
Of course not, that’s the go to move to try to silence someone. What a nimrod. Instead of being constructive and countering with valid points he cries and wants someone to leave. Wh I’m going to take my toys and go play with someone else. Hey at least we know that Apple products are so

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Kevin, can you explain what you mean about the email delivery? Are you saying that you get replies before the messages to which the replies apply? Simon, yep GW are a bit hard to touch from outside the US of A, you have to go through their dealerships. Although perhaps, now that they’re part o

RE: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Kevin Barry To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo In that case, the list owners sho

RE: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
and watch the world go by. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2016 10:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo In that case, the list

RE: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
s.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2016 8:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo Am I really the only one not dancing with joy here? GW do great work; FS I am, ahem, rather less enthusiastic about.

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry
. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > > - Original Message - > *From:* Kevin Barry > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: o/t another sign of the time

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
vin Barry To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo In that case, the list owners should configure it such that messages the pier in the correct order, this is the only list where I have these

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry
stration. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "E.T." > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: o/t another sign

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
e not get back to Apple things. Sigh in frustration. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "E.T." To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:01 PM Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
Kevin, The situation though was how you positioned your post. Caitlin simply stated that as far as she knew gw micro no longer existed. The post to which you were replying, from a person well within their right to express pleasure in their choice of a different computer was a few posts back

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry
Or, if my message was uncalled for, likewise, was the message I responded to. I disagree; On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, E.T. wrote: >Is there never to be an end to this playground behavior? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited >

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread E.T.
Is there never to be an end to this playground behavior? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 6/14/2016 2:58 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: if you have indeed left the windows world, do the rest of us a favo

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Tim Kilburn
That was uncalled for Kevin. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 14, 2016, at 15:58, Kevin Barry wrote: if you have indeed left the windows world, do the rest of us a favor, and leave this list as well. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Caitlyn Furness mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmai

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry
if you have indeed left the windows world, do the rest of us a favor, and leave this list as well. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > GW micro got bought out by AI squared. The company doesn’t exist anymore > as far as I know.. > > Cait > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Cheree

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Caitlyn Furness
GW micro got bought out by AI squared. The company doesn’t exist anymore as far as I know.. Cait > On Jun 14, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote: > > Cheree Heppe here: > Isn't GW Micro part of AI Squared? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:57 AM, erik burggraaf

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Mike Arrigo
Wow, and to think at one point, Gw-Micro made it clear that the company was not merging with anyone, and Freedom Scientific actually sued Gw-Micro claiming a patent violation, now the twoo are merging in to one company. This definitely indicates that the days of the expensive screen readers are

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Scott Granados
Or Linux, let’s not forget the other operating systems with built in open source screen readers.:) But yes, I’m glad I’m using voice over and not something on the windows side. On 6/14/16, 4:15 PM, "E.T." wrote: >Looks like it. Potholes getting bigger and bigger. And makes Apple >look e

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Am I really the only one not dancing with joy here? GW do great work; FS I am, ahem, rather less enthusiastic about. :) And be careful what you wish for. You’ve seen what can happen when vendors take on accessibility, for any number of reasons, good or bad, but which don’t include the best rea

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread E.T.
Looks like it. Potholes getting bigger and bigger. And makes Apple look even more shiny and rosy. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 6/14/2016 11:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: http://www.prnewswire

Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here: Isn't GW Micro part of AI Squared? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ai-squared-joins-vfo-home-of-freedom-scientific-and-optelec-300284405.html > > The end is one step closer for commercial A

o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo

2016-06-14 Thread erik burggraaf
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ai-squared-joins-vfo-home-of-freedom-scientific-and-optelec-300284405.html The end is one step closer for commercial AT my friends. It mak