And apples having accessibility technology built in to their os's from out of the box goes along way to making them the better of two evils.
Windows / Microsoft need to really pull finger out to catch up with built in adaptive technology ' MS don't even have decent adaptive tech in their mobile products Nothings perfect for us but with what we've got we can do truckloads. I only wish I could do enterprise work from my iPad Enterprisework such as powershell and exchange administration, as yet it's not very easy. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, 17 June 2016 5:40 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: o/t another sign of the times AISquared acquired by vfo Heck, no offence was meant, however I still think Apple are the biggest and best example of integrated accessibility actually working, which is why one of the biggest reasons Mac users give for being on Mac is not having to depend on an external AT. That doesn’t factor in to the discussion by itself, because NVDA is still free, and the AT vendors are up against that just as they are VoiceOver, TalkBack, Orca, Narrator and ChromeVox. My issue is that the baseline for accessibility was very high with the AT vendors involved. I’d love to see AT engineers working for big companies, so that all of this mainstream technology can be used as well as could be expected from the use of commercial AT, is all. On Windows, it’s still possible, but on every other platform we simply get what we’re given, and only sometimes does it work out. I don’t believe Apple are immune, either, given the issues we’re getting with VoiceOver on OS X. None of this is of course intended, as you point out, to suggest that AT is some infallible, but with competition being removed from the market, there is every possibility that the bar will be lowered, without a corresponding uptake from the free alternatives. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.