Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-14 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Brian, I assume you continue to use the Mac, and as a result, your feedback is important. Good luck as we both continue to traverse the Mac world! Les On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Well put Les. I have almost given up on a lot of tables on the mac, > and numbers is

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-14 Thread Brian Fischler
Well put Les. I have almost given up on a lot of tables on the mac, and numbers is driving me crazy, as sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. I know Apple is working on these things, and they aren't the easiest problems to fix, but hey, I lack patience. On Aug 12, 11:27 pm, Les Kriegler

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Brian, Keep on posting please. Like you, I'm a big believer in Apple and what they've done, but Apple currently cannot handle all of our needs. Examples would be reading of tables and reading of pdf documents. I use my Mac virtually all of the time but still use Windows on occasion for th

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey guys, healthy disagreement here. And yes, Ricardo I do agree with you that technology has come a very very long way in ten years, and I think Apple is one of the companies at the fore front of this. I was just adding that every time I have posted something on this list that goes against the nor

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I was just making a comment, I didn't say you were the one being smarter or better that's your assumption Ricardo. Let's not make an issue of this and move on as this conversation is a waste of time. Kawal. On 12 Aug 2012, at 06:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Kawal, > > I think assuming

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Kawal, I think assuming someone disagrees with a persons views because they think they are better are smarter is pretty far out there. I'm sure if you were on a jaws list, windows list, etc, you would find similar opposition to comments criticizing the subject matter the list was meant to c

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Actually, my comment had nothing to do with a criticism of Apple. it was your social comment, "Here is another example of how a blind > > person has no shot at being as productive of our sighted peers". That > comment doesn't really sound like it has anything to do with Apple > specifica

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
That's because people like to think they are better and smarter and yes on this list, if you attack Apple, you get a mouth full. Kawal. On 12 Aug 2012, at 05:52 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Geez, anytime anyone on this list criticizes Apple, they get attacked > personally. it's not being pesimi

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Fischler
Geez, anytime anyone on this list criticizes Apple, they get attacked personally. it's not being pesimistic it's being a realist. While I do appreciate you responding, calling me pesimistic doesn't really help solve the problem On Aug 12, 11:58 am, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I don't think yo

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yikes! Pessimistic much? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Aug 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Well, forget about my last post and this selecting and copying working > so well. Yet another bug in ML, and yes, I will repo

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Fischler
Well, forget about my last post and this selecting and copying working so well. Yet another bug in ML, and yes, I will report it to Apple. Selecting the text on a web page works fine the first time, but if you want to select another part of the text from the same,Voiceover will not regain its focus

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Fischler
Awesome just found the help document. Ah, I believe I was hitting the command key and needed to hit the option key. Here is the help document in case anyone else is having problems http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/_1201.html On Aug 12, 11:49 am, Brian Fischler wrote:

Re: Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I don't think your doing anything wrong. I think focus just gets lost sometimes. If you haven't, you might try toggling Voiceover on/off. I have seen this behavior once or twice. For the most part though, its worked pretty well. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple

Help with Selecting Text in Safari

2012-08-12 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Trying to copy some text in safari and have run in to some issues, not sure what I am doing wrong, and it is probably a setting, so wanted to see if anyone knew. It is weird as at first this was working, but it doesn't seem like the cursor is following VO and I have checked my settings in

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-26 Thread Ricardo Walker
but that was about it. What >>>>>>> is your expectation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-26 Thread William Windels
>>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage >>>>>>> even with all

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-26 Thread Ricardo Walker
t;>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage >>>>>> even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did >>>>>> several time

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-26 Thread William Windels
>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair. >>>>>> I >>>>>>

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
riginal Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >> >> I was abl

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
isionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi. All tracking is turned on. It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages. On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Matthew Campbell
whole paragraph, >>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't >>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
s. . -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi. I can't just up and down ar

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Blouch
right. Let me try later today and see if I can duplicate. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in S

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Matthew Campbell
ry later today and see if I >>> can duplicate. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Blouch
Chris Blouch Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then went to your page: ht

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Matthew Campbell
to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari > > I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be > sure cursor trackin

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Blouch
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be sure cursor tracking

Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I think turning cursor tracking on, as previously suggested, would solve this problem, or at least simplify the number of steps. But, I agree that copying and pasting to and from Safari can sometimes be cumbersome. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN:

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Blouch
12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then went to your page: http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/dr

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
: Selecting text in Safari I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then went to your page: http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 5f0828351b and found the text

RE: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
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RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
Blouch Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then went to your page: http

Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Blouch
d instead of replacing it? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi, If all your doing is cop

RE: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari I get a "page doesn't exist," error, but one thing you might try is interacting with that section of text, command A to select all, then copy that. If you can

Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I get a "page doesn't exist," error, but one thing you might try is interacting with that section of text, command A to select all, then copy that. If you can get VO to read the entire paragraph without stopping, including the link, you might try copying the last heard phrase to the clipboard w

Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
ginal Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote: &

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi, If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO shift C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 16,

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
-Lewis Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote: > That works great, so long as everything you want to copy is in the same > element. > > Try this with two blocks

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Bill Holton
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hello Bill, No one ever likes this method when I explain it, but it works for me. Set a hotspot at the beginning of the text you wish to copy. It must not be a link. Then set a hotspot at the end of the text, and once again, it must not be a

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread William Windels
Hi Bil and others, I think I can confirm your problem and It's like you says: all works well unless you have to select text that is not splitter by another control like button, checkbox, link... Yes, there are a few workarounds like vo+shift+c or vo+enter to accomplish this task but, why differe

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
rtson > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari > > Hello Bill, > > This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work > better in DOM mode than in Groups. > > If Shift-Cmd-Right

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote: > That works great, so long as everything you want to copy is in the same > element. > > Try this with two blocks of text that are separated by a  link or two and > you will be stopped dead at the element change. Does it work better for you if,

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Bill, No one ever likes this method when I explain it, but it works for me. Set a hotspot at the beginning of the text you wish to copy. It must not be a link. Then set a hotspot at the end of the text, and once again, it must not be a link. At your first hotspot, bring the mouse and do

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Bill Holton
could then pause, change the rotor, and continue my highlighting. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Cavendish Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Simon Cavendish
l > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari > > Hello Bill, > > This a

RE: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Bill Holton
4:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hello Bill, This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work better in DOM mode than in Groups. If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, remember that VO-Shift-c wil

Re: Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Bill, This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work better in DOM mode than in Groups. If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. Also, you may find you need to

Selecting text in Safari

2012-01-16 Thread Bill Holton
Hi. As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To get a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow for character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the line. To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to

Selecting text in Safari

2010-02-11 Thread Greg Kearney
As there was a question about selecting text in Safari with VoiceOver here are some instructions for doing this. 1. Interact with the text on the page and navigate to the start of the text you want to select. 2. If not already doing so move the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor 3. Click the