Hi Brian,
I assume you continue to use the Mac, and as a result, your feedback is
important. Good luck as we both continue to traverse the Mac world!
Les
On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Well put Les. I have almost given up on a lot of tables on the mac,
> and numbers is
Well put Les. I have almost given up on a lot of tables on the mac,
and numbers is driving me crazy, as sometimes it works and other times
it doesn't. I know Apple is working on these things, and they aren't
the easiest problems to fix, but hey, I lack patience.
On Aug 12, 11:27 pm, Les Kriegler
Hi Brian,
Keep on posting please. Like you, I'm a big believer in Apple and what they've
done, but Apple currently cannot handle all of our needs. Examples would be
reading of tables and reading of pdf documents. I use my Mac virtually all of
the time but still use Windows on occasion for th
Hey guys, healthy disagreement here. And yes, Ricardo I do agree with
you that technology has come a very very long way in ten years, and I
think Apple is one of the companies at the fore front of this. I was
just adding that every time I have posted something on this list that
goes against the nor
I was just making a comment, I didn't say you were the one being smarter or
better that's your assumption Ricardo. Let's not make an issue of this and move
on as this conversation is a waste of time.
Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2012, at 06:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi Kawal,
>
> I think assuming
Hi Kawal,
I think assuming someone disagrees with a persons views because they think they
are better are smarter is pretty far out there. I'm sure if you were on a jaws
list, windows list, etc, you would find similar opposition to comments
criticizing the subject matter the list was meant to c
Hi,
Actually, my comment had nothing to do with a criticism of Apple. it was your
social comment, "Here is another example of how a blind
>
> person has no shot at being as productive of our sighted peers". That
> comment doesn't really sound like it has anything to do with Apple
> specifica
That's because people like to think they are better and smarter and yes on this
list, if you attack Apple, you get a mouth full.
Kawal.
On 12 Aug 2012, at 05:52 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Geez, anytime anyone on this list criticizes Apple, they get attacked
> personally. it's not being pesimi
Geez, anytime anyone on this list criticizes Apple, they get attacked
personally. it's not being pesimistic it's being a realist. While I do
appreciate you responding, calling me pesimistic doesn't really help
solve the problem
On Aug 12, 11:58 am, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't think yo
Yikes!
Pessimistic much?
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Aug 12, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Well, forget about my last post and this selecting and copying working
> so well. Yet another bug in ML, and yes, I will repo
Well, forget about my last post and this selecting and copying working
so well. Yet another bug in ML, and yes, I will report it to Apple.
Selecting the text on a web page works fine the first time, but if you
want to select another part of the text from the same,Voiceover will
not regain its focus
Awesome just found the help document. Ah, I believe I was hitting the
command key and needed to hit the option key. Here is the help
document in case anyone else is having problems
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/_1201.html
On Aug 12, 11:49 am, Brian Fischler wrote:
Hi,
I don't think your doing anything wrong. I think focus just gets lost
sometimes. If you haven't, you might try toggling Voiceover on/off. I have
seen this behavior once or twice. For the most part though, its worked pretty
well.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple
Hey all,
Trying to copy some text in safari and have run in to some issues, not
sure what I am doing wrong, and it is probably a setting, so wanted to
see if anyone knew. It is weird as at first this was working, but it
doesn't seem like the cursor is following VO and I have checked my
settings in
but that was about it. What
>>>>>>> is your expectation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage
>>>>>>> even with all
t;>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage
>>>>>> even with all of the cursors tracking each other.
>>>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did
>>>>>> several time
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
riginal Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>>
>> I was abl
isionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hi.
All tracking is turned on.
It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages.
On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'
whole paragraph,
>>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to
>>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't
>>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the
s.
.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hi.
I can't just up and down ar
right. Let me try later today and see if I
can duplicate.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in S
ry later today and see if I
>>> can duplicate.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2
Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then
went to your page:
ht
to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>
> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
> sure cursor trackin
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
sure cursor tracking
I think turning cursor tracking on, as previously suggested, would solve this
problem, or at least simplify the number of steps. But, I agree that copying
and pasting to and from Safari can sometimes be cumbersome.
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12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then
went to your page:
http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/dr
: Selecting text in Safari
I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then
went to your page:
http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30
5f0828351b
and found the text
ssage-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari
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Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then
went to your page:
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hi,
If all your doing is cop
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Example problem: RE: Selecting text in Safari
I get a "page doesn't exist," error, but one thing you might try is
interacting with that section of text, command A to select all, then copy
that. If you can
I get a "page doesn't exist," error, but one thing you might try is interacting
with that section of text, command A to select all, then copy that. If you can
get VO to read the entire paragraph without stopping, including the link, you
might try copying the last heard phrase to the clipboard w
ginal Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
&
AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hi,
If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO shift
C which is copy last phrase to clipboard.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Jan 16,
-Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
> That works great, so long as everything you want to copy is in the same
> element.
>
> Try this with two blocks
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Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hello Bill,
No one ever likes this method when I explain it, but it works for me.
Set a hotspot at the beginning of the text you wish to copy. It must not be
a link. Then set a hotspot at the end of the text, and once again, it must
not be a
Hi Bil and others,
I think I can confirm your problem and It's like you says: all works well
unless you have to select text that is not splitter by another control like
button, checkbox, link...
Yes, there are a few workarounds like vo+shift+c or vo+enter to accomplish this
task but, why differe
rtson
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work
> better in DOM mode than in Groups.
>
> If Shift-Cmd-Right
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
> That works great, so long as everything you want to copy is in the same
> element.
>
> Try this with two blocks of text that are separated by a link or two and
> you will be stopped dead at the element change.
Does it work better for you if,
Hello Bill,
No one ever likes this method when I explain it, but it works for me.
Set a hotspot at the beginning of the text you wish to copy. It must not be a
link. Then set a hotspot at the end of the text, and once again, it must not be
a link.
At your first hotspot, bring the mouse and do
could then pause, change the rotor, and
continue my highlighting.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Cavendish
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
l
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> This a
4:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
Hello Bill,
This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work
better in DOM mode than in Groups.
If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, remember
that VO-Shift-c wil
Hello Bill,
This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work better
in DOM mode than in Groups.
If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, remember
that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard.
Also, you may find you need to
Hi.
As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To get a
letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow for
character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the line.
To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to
As there was a question about selecting text in Safari with VoiceOver here are
some instructions for doing this.
1. Interact with the text on the page and navigate to the start of the text you
want to select.
2. If not already doing so move the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor
3. Click the
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