Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Outstanding Yuma and very good info. I'd say overall things are running pretty smooth considering I did a partial migration. I did not pull everything over and I'm seeing fewer "busy" messages. Well except with Server Admin, but I think it is actually doing something albeit a bit slow. :) On Ja

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Well actually, if you tried it on a system that's been running for a while, you'll see that a lot of little things fix themselves and the speed is relatively increased. Downside being restoring all the preferences to your like, especially voice over prefs which to me are the majority. Also, any

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Hmmm, now that is a rather interesting idea. Blowing everything away sounds like it would take a little work since I'm sure there is stuff scatter in a few places. :) ALthough a fine idea to get things sorted. WGM is certainly working a bit better for me. Btw, the WGM REmote app you referred to.

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Ok, sounds like calling is a good alternative. I figured that isolating the culprit by identifying its process and deleteing the relevant plist helps a great deal each time. If you can't isolate it, you can also delete all the preferences, however that means everything would have to be reconfig

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Yuma, I have not had any problems with the Server app crashing yet. I did find a really weird problem when trying to edit the host name of my machine and setup the interface. Trying to click apply caused that button and the cancel button to go dim and I could not do a damned thing. Server di

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Thanks and that is pretty much what I thought as well. I think I can trust myself for the most part. :) Scott On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Scott, > > Haven't gone through certification authorities myself as i find them too > expensive so far for the services i am broadcas

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Haha, Yep they did mislabel users and groups editing buttons. The issue here is taht wgm as a server admin tool probably got discontinued since they want it all through their crashy all in one server app which i wish i would never use, but not the case. The wgm app is pretty good, efficient and

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Scott, Haven't gone through certification authorities myself as i find them too expensive so far for the services i am broadcasting. Not really of use unless you're encrypting banking stuff, personal e-commerce pages with paypal or other financing options etc. Or your data is worth platinum.

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Yuma the drag and drop ain't working, so I might just have to try that app. :) That or bug my wife into helping, but that is not a solution. I did discover that someone at APple mislabeled a couple of buttons in the WGM application. :) Best, Scott On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Yuma Decaux w

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-28 Thread Scott Howell
Yuma, Thanks for the info. I am having a bit of trouble trying to get people associated with a particular group, which may just be something I'm doing wrong, but I suspect it is more the interface. :) I did find the Workgroup Manager Remote app, but there seems to be a couple of Server Admin ap

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-27 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey Scott, Yes both server admin and workgroup manager are available as 3rd party iphone/ipad apps from which you can monitor, configure limited ammounts of settings (for server admin) and most importantly quickly and easily create users and groups in the workgroup manager app. This way all is

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-27 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey Scott, There was a method for specifically opening the users and groups pop up window and select them around but i haven't used it since i use the workgroup manager app on my iphone. However you can probably try voice over's drag and drop? Best regards, Yuma On 28/01/2012, at 1:20 PM, S

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-27 Thread Scott Howell
Oh and one other thing I meant to ask you is about your note below. Are you saying that third-party apps exist for the iOS platform that allow for managing users and groups? That is quite interesting if that is the case or perhaps I misunderstood and you are saying that you can use WGM to manage

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-27 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Yuma, Is there an easy way to add users to a group? I cannot drag users or groups, so there surely is an easier way and any info appreciated. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to m

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-23 Thread Scott Howell
Hey CB, Well actually if I could work with the dynamic addressing issues I could in fact run servers. However, I just for grins tried setting up an account with DYN and never could get a confirmation e-mail, so I seriously do not think I will go this way. I feel if a vendor cannot respond in a

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-23 Thread Chris Blouch
You might also check out the SLA with your service provider. Usually if you have a consumer connection using DHCP to assign you some random IP address they have clauses in the contract that say you can't host servers or somesuch. Around here going with a commercial account from Cox cable was $3

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-22 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi Matthew, I actually meant the directory service related managed preferences in wgm Sorry for any confusion On 23/01/2012, at 8:43 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi Yuma. > I haven't noticed that server prefs wasn't accessible but maybe we're talking > about different server prefs. > There i

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-22 Thread Scott Howell
Hey TIm, THanks for the reply and that is a very curious problem. The only reason why I wanted to know about waking machines up via the ethernet port is if we were gone for longer periods of time or if I wanted to update machines on the network that may not be awake. I was also curious because t

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Scott, For #3, I never let my servers go to sleep anyway. I'm pretty sure that this is the default behaviour as well but I'm not positive. I simply make sure that the computer never goes to sleep and that the display sleeps in a specific amount of time, thus, there's always quick and relia

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-22 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi Yuma. I haven't noticed that server prefs wasn't accessible but maybe we're talking about different server prefs. There is an icon on my dock for server preferences and when opened, it'll allow me access to the more basic settings such as the server firewall, basic file sharing settings, serv

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I agree. Static IP is the way to go. It's far more reliable and much less hassle in the long run. With respect to MCX preferences and such, I've found it much easier to use WGM than Terminal. I'm just not good enough at the Terminal to dig as deep as needed to perform these tasks using

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Yuma, Goo point and I have not entirely decided, but seems the extra cost is pretty absurd, but it seems the DNS services may work. However, seriously I have not made any definite plans yet. At the end of the day I would gladly pay the money if I got what I wanted without jumping through endles

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Yuma, you da man and thanks for the resource. I'll definitely do some RTFM before trashing things. :) Scott On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Hey Scott, > > That was 3 questions :) > > Let me try to answer them as precisely as can be: > > 1- User preferences as in managed pre

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Yuma Decaux
Scott, This means you got to forward all vpn ports to the machine via a dynamic ip. It's fine for you to have a domain name but it needs to be constantly updated as your isp will change it anytime it demands for it. SO you either have to find a dynamic ip solution around the web which itself co

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Ah TIm, I see WGM is included with the Server Admin TOols. I did not realize this at first. THanks, On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Two things to add to Yuma's useful message. I use Server Admin Tools to > manage more advanced services than the Server app allows and

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey Scott, That was 3 questions :) Let me try to answer them as precisely as can be: 1- User preferences as in managed preferences via the MCX compositor, or more commonly known as the workgroup manager's user preferences. All of the managed preferences window is inaccessible since i first sta

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Yuma Decaux
Oh yes, i forgot that important part :) Server admin and WGM are your companions there for many basic configs for all services. They also work pretty well on the IOS version though being developed by a third party. On 22/01/2012, at 11:30 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Two things to add t

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
TIm, THanks you answered some of the questions I asked, so saves Yuma. :) I did find the Admin tools, but will have to look for the other tools. So, let me explain a bit about what I'm trying to do. I will keep this pretty short, but essentially I wanted to look at the possibility of setting up

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Yuma, Yeah you know me and I should probably know the answer; however, been to long and all that. In any case two questions: 1. User preferences? I assume this is different than account configuration for local users? 2. Where can I read up on the command line tools I need to access those thi

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Bill, Lion is Lion and the server stuff is basically just a purchase add-on, so it really should not matter. I was specifically interested in the Server software as I have a particular task that it might help with. So, it sounds like overall this should work just fine. Thanks for the feedback;

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Two things to add to Yuma's useful message. I use Server Admin Tools to manage more advanced services than the Server app allows and I've had no issues at all with accessibility within Server Admin Tools. For the User and Preference Management, I use Work Group Manager (WGM) which, other

Re: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi Scott, I have a macbox with lion server which i use for several network services including afp over internet, security cameras, ical server, directory services , airprint and others. As a previous snow leopard server user, the integrated server suite isn't as comprehensive but if you are ju

RE: Lion Server

2012-01-21 Thread Bill Holton
Supposedly the server version and the regular version are exactly the same if you do not activate the server stuff. That said, I have rthe server version because it was the only way I could get the highest end Mini. Mostly it works the same, but it does have the same problems with running without