Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread iDevice tutorials and demos
I am pretty sure Apple has the VO stuff worked out. But MacRumors has an interesting post about Face ID. I will paste it below How Face ID Scans Your Face Face ID is enabled through a TrueDepth front-facing camera on the iPhone X, which has

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
My apologies. I have seen many doom and gloom responses over the past day, and was in a rather negative interpretation space when I responded. I have a few Android tablets. None of them have home buttons, and the functionality of the home button is always available. Kind regards, David Chitten

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
Turn VoiceOver on/off, triple press the power button. Siri is activated by doing something with the power button as well. I believe it is long press of power button. I am unsure how the phone will be turned off if that is the case. It may be that Siri is activated by double press of the power bu

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
All the reviews I have read thus far state faceID is quicker than touchID. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 14/09/2017, at 04:52, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: > > I believe it will "work," but I am worried about th

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
gt; -Original Message- > From: 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 6:03 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why > > Also

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
dnesday, 13 September 2017 6:20 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why > > The Samsung face recognition can be tricked with a picture of the person's > face. In fact, there are YouTube videos showing

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
ehalf Of Krister Ekstrom > Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:42 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why > > Why do blind people always have to invent worst case scenarios even when the > phone hasn’t come

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread David Chittenden
There are a couple modes for FaceID. The most secure mode requires one to actually look at the phone to unlock it. For those who cannot look at the phone, this more secure factor can be deactivated. Then, the iPhone merely needs to see the face to unlock. Of course, the passcode is always an opt

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Eric Oyen
there is one additional issue: what happens if VO is not turned on? how are you supposed to know that your face is on screen? I am totally blind and even with VO turned on and the camera aimed at my face, I can never get it centered. so, facial recognition might not be a disable thing for me. A

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
On Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr > Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 9:17 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why > > I’m backing my friend Krister on this poi

RE: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 9:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why I’m backing my friend Krister on this point. Frankly, I am getting just plain sick and tired of

RE: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
7:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why Why do blind people always have to invent worst case scenarios even when the phone hasn’t come out yet? Ok, ok before you say anything i was also doubtful for many years, wondering how

RE: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 6:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why The Samsung face recognition can be tricked with a

RE: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
--Original Message- From: 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 6:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why Also without a home button I wo

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread E.T.
All done with Gestures. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/12/2017 11:03 PM, 'Cath

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Mika Pyyhkala
I believe it will "work," but I am worried about the extra .75 to 1.25 of a second that may be needed every time one wants to unlock the phone. I could be wrong, but it seems like touch id would be faster, and it can be accessed with the phone in a lot of different configurations and placements.

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
I too get sick when people whine - including when people whine about words/sentiments that weren't even expressed in the first place. I didn't want to start people off venting about the problems of the blindness community. I only wondered how the quitting/loading of VO and accessing home and the

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Excuse me but I wasn't "inventing worse case scenarios". I was reasonably and legitimately wondering how we will do certain things without the home button, not saying we wouldn't be able to - I speculated on how it could be done. And by the way I am pleased with Voiceover, though it has problems

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
I don't think my questions were actually a "doom and gloom response". I was merely wondering how these things would be done with no home button, not saying it was impossible or terrible. wrote: > Start/stop VO will most likely be triple press of the power button. > > App switcher is easy, as is h

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Mary Otten
This article was from the mainstream press, not written by a blind person. So get off your high horse is folks. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote: > > Why do blind people always have to invent worst case scenarios even when the > phone hasn’t c

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread lenron brown
I am sure it will all work fine. Remember there is options. You don't like the x get the 8 or 8plus. I didn't want to give up my headphone jack last year so you know what I did? I stuck with my 6s plus. If I didn't want more storage and if my battery wasn't starting to suck I could probably do anot

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Raymond Foret Jr
I’m backing my friend Krister on this point. Frankly, I am getting just plain sick and tired of al these blind people whining that something is going to suck or not be usable even before we know all the details of how it works. Talk about a drain on one’s energy. Sent from the only computer

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Why do blind people always have to invent worst case scenarios even when the phone hasn’t come out yet? Ok, ok before you say anything i was also doubtful for many years, wondering how Apple would solve this or that, turned out they did and did it good at that. At tha risk of getting flamed, but

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-12 Thread David Chittenden
Start/stop VO will most likely be triple press of the power button. App switcher is easy, as is home button. I always find these doom and gloom responses which always come up to be quite amusing. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Se

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-12 Thread David Chittenden
The Samsung face recognition can be tricked with a picture of the person's face. In fact, there are YouTube videos showing people taking selfies with one phone and then using the selfie picture onscreen to unlock the Samsung face recognition. That is nicely secure, don't you think? As for the f

Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-12 Thread 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
Also without a home button I wonder how we'll start/stop VO, use the app switcher and get to home. Probably using the app switcher and going home could be done with gestures but what about starting/quitting VO...? Catherine On 9/13/17, Simon Fogarty wrote: > Interesting, > > Samsung have a full

RE: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why

2017-09-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
Interesting, Samsung have a full screen no buttons face recognition and a finger print sensor. Why can’t apple do that also. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 3:40 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelis